Inquiry Before Impeachment

[Salty Again]

... G'day Truthers,

... So the House of Congress has voted to begain
a House Impeachment Inquiry into President Biden
concerning Biden Family business dealings and
suspicious payments.

... This will be a good thing for America.
Let the citizenry see the evidence!

#### Salty

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by Salty Again

... G'day Truthers,

... So the House of Congress has voted to begain
a House Impeachment Inquiry into President Biden
concerning Biden Family business dealings and
suspicious payments.

... This will be a good thing for America.
Let the citizenry see the evidence!

#### Salty

Evidence of what?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHSHS

(Can’t trust that house of Congress…)

[ICU 812]

". . .bribery, treason or other high crimes . . ."

The Constitution is both explicit and vague on what constitutes an impeachable offense. Back in the 1970s, erasing 18 minutes of secretly recorded conversations seemed to be enough.

In the 20-teens a pile of made up lies seemed to be enough.

What is at the bottom of the current investigation seems to be hard records of phone conversations, e-mails, text messghes and bank records of deposits and withdrawals. These raise real questions of receiving money linked to dealings with foreign governments that are detrimental to the USA. One is bribery and the other is treason.

In the case of bribery, our legal system recognizes that directing moneys to family members without a direct deposit to a government official to be bribery on the part of that official.

I am sure that it is more complicated than that, but that complexity is the business of the impeachment inquiry.

[Jackie S]

One major difference in this investigation and the sham charges brought by the Democrats against Trump is the bribery thing.

Pelosi, Nadler, and Schiff had to make up crimes and lie.

The Constitution specifically mentions Bribery as an impeachable offense.

The Biden Family influence peddling scheme has finally coming to light. The entire bunch will go down.

The big question is which Biden will be the first to flip.

[Yssup Rider]

Hahahshshshsshhashasahahahaha!

[ICU 812]

Back to recess at the Fifth Grade playground.
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[SpeedRacerXXX]

Whether or not there was evidence against Trump for his being impeached twice is up for debate. There is not debate that Republians have nothing on Biden despite investigating him and Hunter for 3 years at least.

"The US House of Representatives has voted to formally open an impeachment inquiry into Biden – without any evidence he has committed wrongdoing.

Is there evidence that Joe Biden committed wrongdoing?
Republicans have accused the president and his family of profiting from his time as vice-president and have zeroed in on his son, Hunter, who had business ventures in Ukraine and China during that period.

Congressional investigators have obtained nearly 40,000 pages of subpoenaed bank records and dozens of hours of testimony from key witnesses, but while investigations have raised ethical questions, no evidence has emerged that Biden acted corruptly or accepted bribes in his current or previous role.

In July, one of Hunter Biden’s former business associates, Devon Archer, gave sworn testimony to congressional investigators that Hunter had sold his foreign clients “an illusion of access to his father”. Archer recounted how Hunter would put his father on speakerphone to impress clients and business associates, however he also stated that Joe Biden was never directly involved in their financial dealings."

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...t-be-convicted

[eyecu2]

Originally Posted by Jackie S

One major difference in this investigation and the sham charges brought by the Democrats against Trump is the bribery thing.

Pelosi, Nadler, and Schiff had to make up crimes and lie.

The Constitution specifically mentions Bribery as an impeachable offense. (you need to prove bribery- meaning money for an outcome- they haven't even proven the money part)

Originally Posted by ICU 812

". . .bribery, treason or other high crimes . . ."

The Constitution is both explicit and vague on what constitutes an impeachable offense. Back in the 1970s, erasing 18 minutes of secretly recorded conversations seemed to be enough.

In the 20-teens a pile of made up lies seemed to be enough. Lies HA!!! just because the Senate with a majority saved his orange ass. That was purely political protectionism. Still going on today. Guy claims he was exhonerated,...no just not convicted of the crimes in the senate, but certainly was in the house.

What is at the bottom of the current investigation seems to be hard records of phone conversations, e-mails, text messghes and bank records of deposits and withdrawals. These raise real questions of receiving money linked to dealings with foreign governments that are detrimental to the USA. One is bribery and the other is treason. I understand the idea that you have a payment from Hunter to dad, but how in-the-fudge-Newtons did you jump the shark to get to treason???? The prosecutor who was in charge over in Ukraine was a known payoff guy and had sat on his hands over Burisma for years; collectively he was dragging his feet waiting on a payoff- till he was fired.

In the case of bribery, our legal system recognizes that directing moneys to family members without a direct deposit to a government official to be bribery on the part of that official.- where did this definition come from?

I am sure that it is more complicated than that, but that complexity is the business of the impeachment inquiry.

Glad your not an attorney, cause saying that there was a directed deposit from someone to aid or benefit a government official without substantial proof and a money trail that mimic's the actual deposits favored, would be speculative at best.

Wikipedia says the following:

"High crimes and misdemeanors" is a phrase from Section 4 of Article Two of the United States Constitution: "The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors."
"High," in the legal and common vocabulary of the 17th and 18th centuries of "high crimes," is the activity by or against those who have special duties acquired by taking an oath of office that is not shared with ordinary persons.[6] A high crime can be done only by someone in a unique position of authority, which is political, who does things to circumvent justice.
Since 1386, the English Parliament From where most of our language originated: had used the term "high crimes and misdemeanors" to describe one of the grounds to impeach officials of the crown. Officials accused of "high crimes and misdemeanors" were accused of offenses as varied as misappropriating government funds, appointing unfit subordinates, not prosecuting cases, promoting themselves ahead of more deserving candidates, threatening a grand jury, disobeying an order from Parliament, arresting a man to keep him from running for Parliament, helping "suppress petitions to the King to call a Parliament," etc.[9]
Benjamin Franklin asserted that the power of impeachment and removal was necessary for those times when the Executive "rendered himself obnoxious," and the Constitution should provide for the "regular punishment of the Executive when his conduct should deserve it, and for his honorable acquittal when he should be unjustly accused." James Madison said that "impeachment... was indispensable" to defend the community against "the incapacity, negligence or perfidy of the chief Magistrate." With a single executive, Madison argued, unlike a legislature whose collective nature provided security, "loss of capacity or corruption was more within the compass of probable events, and either of them might be fatal to the Republic."[10


Ok, not in any order,-
Obnoxious- Check -Trump

Corruption- Check Trump on his infamous phone call.

Misappropriating government funds- wall funding and The Federal Election Commission let Trump off the hook for allegedly using $2.8 million in charitable donations to veterans for political purposes Check - Trump,

Appointing unfit subordinates- Check Trump- Literally his entire cabinet, from EVERY SINGLE appointment- Mick Mulvenny, and everyone who was fired for being a low level coffee boy eventually.

Not prosecuting cases - Check Trump for gassing ppl in order to get a photo -op, and then lets not forget pardons for a LOT of ppl promoting themselves ahead of more deserving candidates-TRUMP All day every day.


Threatening a grand jury- all 4 indictments and 91 felonies-yep Threatening every single damn one- Come get yer boy- TRUMP.

When I read the meaning of the high crimes part, all I think of is Trump. I will say that Joe asking for the Burisma guy to be fired, is close, but that itself took 3 months to actually come to conclusion...not really a quid pro quo.

[Yssup Rider]

“Dirt on Biden” is how all this shit got started for Trump, right?

Clearly failed in that years long mission.

The actual facts reinforce that failure.

[eyecu2]

WEll, I'm certain Joe is no Boy Scout in overall knowledge and perhaps has some skeletons in the closet. But Comer and his girlfriend Jordan haven't found the goods on JOE. They found some shit on Hunter, but it's up to the dynamic duds of the GOP to be able to connect the dots from both. If the payments say loan repayment, you will need proof to get that over a finish line of payoffs. AINT no way that will be voted through with what they "know" right now. That said, let them investigate away- it'll be something to keep those Maga guys busy, while their fearless leader is being investigated in a real court of law, and when he's deemed a loser who won't be allowed on the ballot, then what?

no policies, no legislation, no border changes, no immigration changes, and nobody to elect? wow....The Quinella of loserdom.

[Salty Again]

Originally Posted by eyecu2

WEll, I'm certain Joe is no Boy Scout in overall knowledge and perhaps has some skeletons in the closet. But Comer and his girlfriend Jordan haven't found the goods on JOE. They found some shit on Hunter, but it's up to the dynamic duds of the GOP to be able to connect the dots from both. If the payments say loan repayment, you will need proof to get that over a finish line of payoffs. AINT no way that will be voted through with what they "know" right now. That said, let them investigate away- it'll be something to keep those Maga guys busy, while their fearless leader is being investigated in a real court of law, and when he's deemed a loser who won't be allowed on the ballot, then what?

no policies, no legislation, no border changes, no immigration changes, and nobody to elect? wow....The Quinella of loserdom.

The discussion is THIS Impeachment Inquiry of Joe Biden
and what testimony and more evidence that we may see.
Not past Impeachments of Clinton or Trump.

But please follow along - as the evidence is shown
to the American people!

#### Salty

[Jackie S]

The Democrats are going through the five stages of denial.

https://www.google.com/search?q=the+...&client=safari

denial, anger bargaining, depression, and finally acceptance.

It’s going to be fun watching them implode as they realize what a pieces of shit Joe Biden and his whole fuking family are.

[Tigbitties38]

We're still waiting for any evidence to be produced.
We can hardly wait for your fake story.
We've been waiting for 3 years for you to show any evidence of a fraudulent election. You still don't even have a crime to charge Joe with.

Originally Posted by Salty Again

The discussion is THIS Impeachment Inquiry of Joe Biden
and what testimony and more evidence that we may see.
Not past Impeachments of Clinton or Trump.

But please follow along - as the evidence is shown
to the American people!

#### Salty

[Salty Again]

Originally Posted by Tigbitties38

We're still waiting for any evidence to be produced.
We can hardly wait for your fake story.
We've been waiting for 3 years for you to show any evidence of a fraudulent election. You still don't even have a crime to charge Joe with.

... Let's watch as the House Oversight Committee
surely does its work.

For Truth, Justice and the American Way!

#### Salty

[eccieuser9500]

Are these stories related? The topic of the thread, and my post.

Staff Edit - Remove Video - Not On Topic - Biomed1

No hijack intended.