Do you remember

[berryberry]

when there was a certain someone here, cough, cough "Eye" who claimed over and over this past year that the republicans were cheating by their redistricting efforts. And he said the left never does this?

Well the results are in, and what do you know, the libs are the ones who were massively cheating by their redistricting efforts.

Republicans have received 51.5% of the House vote so far while Democrats have received 46.6%. If this had happened before the new districts were drawn, that +5 GOP lead would have won them about 25 seats. That’s the impact of partisan redistricting.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/11/u...-analysis.html

[HDGristle]

Partisan gerrymandering is problematic

But if folks are going to play the game, they better learn how to win.
https://youtu.be/FYmm5YQSv2I

[IMGTH58]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

Partisan gerrymandering is problematic

But if folks are going to play the game, they better learn how to win.
https://youtu.be/FYmm5YQSv2I

Partisan gerrymandering happens every 10 years in every state no matter which party is in power. Been that was since the Constitution, which everyone swears allegiance to, was established. A few states have "non-partisan" commissions but those efforts usually fail due to partisan interference.

[HDGristle]

Of course it happens. Shouldn't. But does.

At the end of the day the gerrymandering of a district doesn't guarantee an outcome. It makes it easier for one side to win. The planned outcome still require certain levels of turnout to be successful. That's after the maps survive legal challenges and why counting the actual votes is so damn important. It's why voter suppression is often the argument of the loser.

If a district was changed to give an advantage to one side and they still lose... that's a beautiful thing IMO.

Berry's Pepperidge Farm dig at Eye here is mostly sour grapes which will taste better when paired with the dulcet tones of the Great Prophet Lemmy.

[Dreamgurrl]

Not really, but I do remember when YOU said....

Originally Posted by berryberry

I have previously commented on that several times. I am not going to repeat myself

[IMGTH58]

Pretty good overview on gerrymandering and why it's getting worse.

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/gerrym...getting-worse/

[Jacuzzme]

Dems are currently creating the votes they need to keep the house. Maybe one day in the future, probably not though, we will again live in a country with a legitimate government.

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

Of course it happens. Shouldn't. But does.

At the end of the day the gerrymandering of a district doesn't guarantee an outcome.

And yet, no less than the NY Times said gerrymandering was the difference between the Republicans having only a +5 GOP lead instead of winning about 25 seats. The 20 seat difference is all due to the gerrymandering by the Democrats.

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

Dems are currently creating the votes they need to keep the house. Maybe one day in the future, probably not though, we will again live in a country with a legitimate government.

At the rate the left is destroying our democracy and shredding all sense of legitimacy, we may need an armed revolution to once again live in a country with a legitimate government.

We are now reliving Tammany Hall on a massive country wide scale

[tommy156]

Originally Posted by berryberry

At the rate the left is destroying our democracy and shredding all sense of legitimacy, we may need an armed revolution to once again live in a country with a legitimate government.

We are now reliving Tammany Hall on a massive country wide scale

Lol.

[HDGristle]

Originally Posted by berryberry

And yet, no less than the NY Times said gerrymandering was the difference between the Republicans having only a +5 GOP lead instead of winning about 25 seats. The 20 seat difference is all due to the gerrymandering by the Democrats.

They also talked about this

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/30/u...publicans.html

And this

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/09/n...ans-house.html

But don't let me get in the way of yet another massive oversimplification on your part.

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

But don't let me get in the way of yet another massive oversimplification on your part.

LOL.

So quoting the NY Times post election analysis, which said "gerrymandering was the difference between the Republicans having only a +5 GOP lead instead of winning about 25 seats" is a massive oversimplification?

I know you may dislike these actual facts but you may want to take that up with the NY Times, not me