Explaining the fence sitter, COG.

[WTF]

Maybe each human being lives in a unique world, a private world different from those inhabited and experienced by all other humans. . . If reality differs from person to person, can we speak of reality singular, or shouldn't we really be talking about plural realities? And if there are plural realities, are some more true (more real) than others? What about the world of a schizophrenic? Maybe it's as real as our world. Maybe we cannot say that we are in touch with reality and he is not, but should instead say, His reality is so different from ours that he can't explain his to us, and we can't explain ours to him. The problem, then, is that if subjective worlds are experienced too differently, there occurs a breakdown in communication ... and there is the real illness.”
― Philip K. Dick


Actually it explains all of us...some, such as COG just can not put themselves in others shoes. joe blow thinks all others are commirs for not thinking like him, Whirly and JD think the sky is falling. We all live in our own reality. The sooner some of you grasp this concept, the sooner you will be able to have an adult conversation.

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by WTF

... and there is the real illness.”
― Philip K. Dick

Illness is an understatement!

[WTF]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Illness is an understatement!

Yes but to be fair, in their world they are scared of change. They were so scared of change that GW Bush was able to talk them into invading Iraq because he convinced them that that was the cause of this new change. They spent all our savings from the past 8 years fighting wars with lower taxes.

Now they have convinced themselves that it all was Obama's fault.

That is their reality.

They think we are commies for not seeing that exact same thing!

[joe bloe]

Originally Posted by WTF

Maybe each human being lives in a unique world, a private world different from those inhabited and experienced by all other humans. . . If reality differs from person to person, can we speak of reality singular, or shouldn't we really be talking about plural realities? And if there are plural realities, are some more true (more real) than others? What about the world of a schizophrenic? Maybe it's as real as our world. Maybe we cannot say that we are in touch with reality and he is not, but should instead say, His reality is so different from ours that he can't explain his to us, and we can't explain ours to him. The problem, then, is that if subjective worlds are experienced too differently, there occurs a breakdown in communication ... and there is the real illness.”
― Philip K. Dick


Actually it explains all of us...some, such as COG just can not put themselves in others shoes. joe blow thinks all others are commirs for not thinking like him, Whirly and JD think the sky is falling. We all live in our own reality. The sooner some of you grasp this concept, the sooner you will be able to have an adult conversation.

There is such a thing as objective reality. Not everything is a matter of opinion. Liberals love to stress the importance of everyone's view being equal, that we shouldn't judge each other, because that allows them to advance policies that are total nonsense.

If you believe that everyone's opinion should have equal weight, you have to believe that an idiot is as likely to be right as a genius. That's anarchy.

"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts."
Daniel Patrick Moynihan

[Randy4Candy]

Originally Posted by joe bloe

There is such a thing as objective reality. How would you know? Not everything is a matter of opinion. This is true, but how would you know? Liberals love to stress the importance of everyone's view being equal, that we shouldn't judge each other, because that allows them to advance policies that are total nonsense. No, it only allows for everyone to be part of the discussion prior to a decision being made. You know, like the Presidential Election.

If you believe that everyone's opinion should have equal weight, you have to believe that an idiot is as likely to be right as a genius. That's anarchy. Well, you libertarians seem to have that niche pretty well covered.

"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts."
Daniel Patrick Moynihan Once you truly understand that, then you will be able to recognise objective reality.

A sad attempt by lil' joey to stake out teawipetardism's silly belief that their "facts" are actually the facts.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by joe bloe

There is such a thing as objective reality. Not everything is a matter of opinion. Liberals love to stress the importance of everyone's view being equal, that we shouldn't judge each other, because that allows them to advance policies that are total nonsense.

If you believe that everyone's opinion should have equal weight, you have to believe that an idiot is as likely to be right as a genius. That's anarchy.

"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts."
Daniel Patrick Moynihan

And your posts just proves you have no grasp of the Philip K. Dick qoute.

We all see the world differently joe. That you think your reality is always superior is your mistake. The key word being always. We are all wrong in our preception of objective reality at some point or other. Some think we have never walked on the moon, some think Bush had a hand in 9/11, some think Obama was not born in Hawaii. In their world we haven't walked on the moon, Bush planned 9/11 and Obama was not born here.

I am not saying that we give these equal weight but that we do try and understand others POV.

You have twisted my point, as usual. No biggie, you think I am the boogie man. Anything I say is bad.

[joe bloe]

For what it's worth, Phillip K Dick was a drug addict. Of course we all have opinions and some of them are wrong. Most people change their beliefs over time. We're all works in progress. For instance I used to be to a left winger. I was pissed that we put an American flag on the moon; I thought we should have put up a United Nations flag. Fortunately, I made a complete recovery from liberalism and have never relapsed.

[Yssup Rider]

Also, I'm not willing to concede that Bloehard doesn't have a firm grasp on Dick...

[Chica Chaser]

Originally Posted by WTF

That you think your reality is always superior is your mistake. The key word being always.

That happens here a lot, with many different people on both sides of an issue.
Be interesting to see who looks in the mirror and see themselves in that statement, and who's big enough to admit it.

[essence]

Originally Posted by Chica Chaser

and who's big enough to admit it.

Are you big enough?

My reality is that I am big enough to see every side, that is why I am always right and superior

[IIFFOFRDB]

All the world is my stage. If you fuckers would just see things my way. It would be a perfect world!...Friggers

[Little Stevie]

Originally Posted by WTF

Yes but to be fair, in their world they are scared of change. They were so scared of change that GW Bush was able to talk them into invading Iraq because he convinced them that that was the cause of this new change. They spent all our savings from the past 8 years fighting wars with lower taxes.

Now they have convinced themselves that it all was Obama's fault.

That is their reality.

They think we are commies for not seeing that exact same thing!

TRUTH!

By the way, the mess Bush caused by "charging" two wars while lowering revenues and allowing the deregulation of corporate America are not "OUR" facts.

They are the INDISPUTABLE HISTORICAL FACTS.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by Chica Chaser

That happens here a lot, with many different people on both sides of an issue.
Be interesting to see who looks in the mirror and see themselves in that statement, and who's big enough to admit it.

We all need to be able to admit that what we think is best , might not be best for all. That is why folks so disagree.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by joe bloe

If you believe that everyone's opinion should have equal weight, you have to believe that an idiot is as likely to be right as a genius. That's anarchy.

"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts."
Daniel Patrick Moynihan

A true opinion is never right or wrong. There is no way to prove it right or wrong. If someone's opinion is that an armed guard at the school in Newtown, CT. would have stopped the tragedy, you may disagree with that opinion, but it is not wrong, nor is your opinion right. No way to prove it either way.

On the other hand, what Moynihan said is true. A person's opinion is not a true opinion if is stated without knowledge of the facts.

[CuteOldGuy]

Still mad about me proving you are a plagiarizer and a liar, eh, WPF? Is that why you continue to make up lies about me? Go on, I know it fulfills some sick need inside you. Everyone else on here knows you're a fake.

I feel sorry for you, man. It must suck being you.