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Old 09-12-2012, 04:00 PM   #1
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Default Gov. Gary Johnson Releases Statement Regarding Libya Attack

This is from the "unelectable" candidate:

It is tragic when Americans serving their country are murdered, and we both mourn their loss and honor their service.

Part of honoring that service is to ask the obvious question: What U.S. interest is being served by putting our people – and our money – in places where U.S. personnel can be killed by extremists over a video? We launched millions of dollars worth of missiles to bring down Gaddafi, and this is what we get. We hail and encourage the outbreak of an Arab Spring in Egypt, send them billions of dollars we can’t afford, — and our embassy is breached and our flag desecrated.

In Afghanistan, we continue to put our troops in harm’s way 10 years after our post-9/11 mission was complete. Why?

The airwaves are filled today with political chest-pounding and calls for decisive action. The most decisive and prudent action we can take today is to stop trying to manage governments and peoples on the other side of the globe who don’t want to be managed, get our people out of impossible situations that have no direct U.S. interest, and immediately stop sending money to regimes who clearly cannot or will not control their own countries.

Protecting America with a strong national defense and a rational foreign policy is our leaders’ most basic responsibility. But let us not confuse national security with senseless intervention where our interests are clearly not being served.


http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/gov-g...g-libya-attack
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Old 09-12-2012, 04:03 PM   #2
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COG; you think he ruined his chances or otherwise hurt his campgain by speaking out....ya know, shouldn't he have waited a week to figure it out and let the issue die out before going on the record.


Otherwise a great statement.
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Old 09-12-2012, 04:05 PM   #3
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I don't think he hurt his chances much. LOL!
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Old 09-12-2012, 04:13 PM   #4
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I agree, to a word, with everything he said.
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Old 09-12-2012, 04:54 PM   #5
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So America and the west prop up Muammar Gaddafi... until he wanted to unify Africa with a gold backed currency. Use Al Qaeda to murder him... destroy most of Libya's infrastructure, and now the central bankers and Al Qaeda run the country. How many times through out history must this type of scenario happen? I guess as long as they wrap themselves in our flag and have the support from the masses they will never stop. The same thing is going on in Syria. Bush blamed Al Qaeda for 9-11. Clinton used Al Qaeda to fight the Serbian's. Al Qaeda were the good guys... when they were created by the CIA and Zbigniew Brzezinski (Jimmy Carters national security advisor) to fight the Russians. George Orwell would be proud.
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Old 09-12-2012, 04:59 PM   #6
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so many releases in such a short time ...

now its just a matter of time to see who eats shoe
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Old 09-12-2012, 05:45 PM   #7
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Shame someone with a sound mind won't be elected instead of the two duds we have in the major parties.
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Old 09-12-2012, 05:49 PM   #8
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Well I read it. I read it again. I don't see where he said anything germane. He talked about what has already happened. Crying over spilled milk. Then he started talking about controlling nations...this was an embassy and not a shadow government. Other nations have embassies all over the world and no one is attacking them. This was an attack, a terrorist attack and must be responded to by something other than we should have changed what we did ten years ago. It does little good to try to change the past. The present is what it is.
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Old 09-12-2012, 06:00 PM   #9
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And you idiots say you agree with Gary Johnson AND Mitt Romney.

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An excellent statement and, despite Whirlaway's statement above, he doesn't need a week to wait to say it.

He did not directly criticize the Obama administration nor insinuate they were placating our enemies by apologizing for free speech.

His statement intelligently questioned what our foreign policy objectives are - and those questions could just as easily have been asked of the Bush administration.
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Old 09-12-2012, 06:38 PM   #11
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Well I read it. I read it again. I don't see where he said anything germane. He talked about what has already happened. Crying over spilled milk. Then he started talking about controlling nations...this was an embassy and not a shadow government. Other nations have embassies all over the world and no one is attacking them. This was an attack, a terrorist attack and must be responded to by something other than we should have changed what we did ten years ago. It does little good to try to change the past. The present is what it is.

Face it barleyboy you just don't like anyone...
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Who's Gary Johnson?
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I don't like empty words or calories.
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JD, how many of them do we need to kill before they realize that freedom and the rule of law is a much better system than what they have?
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JD, how many of them do we need to kill before they realize that freedom and the rule of law is a much better system than what they have?
Once a country is infected with fundamentalist Islam, they are beyond hope. Freedom and the rule of law are not compatible with Sharia. The only way to deal with the Islamists is to make them fear us.

Bush's theory that we can protect ourselves by spreading democracy to the Muslim world is doomed to failure.
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