Happy Indigenous peoples day

[winn dixie]

Happy Indigenous Peoples day.

[ICU 812]

Were Homo Sapiens the indigenous people of Europe or was it the Neanderthals?

Did some other reading on this:

Seems that Europeans are the indigenous people of Iceland

Same for Greenland.

Europeans are the indigenous people of The Azores.

It is still up in the air with Anthropologists and Archeologists as to whether or not The Americas were settled by migrant Arians from Siberia or by settlers crossing the Atlantic from Europe.

[winn dixie]

Dna studies have shown that 25k to 30k years ago migrations started from Siberia. Thru the centuries there was at least 3 waves from Siberia.
All of which have some version of asiatic blood.

[winn dixie]

Indigenous peoples day is really a remembrance of how the America's were right before colonization.
Over 90 percent of those people were wiped out by the 20th century.

[Levianon17]

Yeah the American Indians. This day is in remembrance of how European Settlers beat the shit out of them,stole their land and put them on reservations. I am sure that's the part members of the remaining tribes won't forget.

[Salty Again]

... Ye Christ! ... History lessons again...

... I've already explained a number o' times that Aborigines
FIRST discovered America... They sailed over here and then
gave the land to the Norsemen - who prolly came from Siberia
or someplace North... And also left land to the native
Indians already here.... One o' the Aborigine leaders
- a felllow named Trumpo was asked where they should
surely sail-to, and Trumpo replied - "America FIRST!"

.... Besides, people will tell you around the world that
Australians are the most Indigenous known to man!

#### Salty

[Levianon17]

Trumpo? I believe he built the first Casino, lol.

[ICU 812]

Originally Posted by winn dixie

Dna studies have shown that 25k to 30k years ago migrations started from Siberia. Thru the centuries there was at least 3 waves from Siberia.
All of which have some version of asiatic blood.

Thank you for that clarification. I have not done any reading on the subject for a number of years. DNA research has revolutionized many aspects of anthropology. Iwas fascinated reading "Collapse" By Jarad Diamond. I was surprised to read that the original settlers in Greenland were not the Inuit, but the Vikings.

A number of years ago, I read a book titled "1491" by Charles C. Mann which talks about the Americas before Columbus.


Another story is how the Japanese and Russians treated the Ainu, a hunter-gathering people who ocupied the the Northern Japanese archipelago and the Sakhalin peninsula before the coming of the other "advanced" cultures. I looked hat up on Wikpedia.

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by Levianon17

Yeah the American Indians. This day is in remembrance of how European Settlers beat the shit out of them,stole their land and put them on reservations. I am sure that's the part members of the remaining tribes won't forget.

dude, don't call them indians.

they're not indians as that was 600 year mistake that was never corrected.

siberians maybe.

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by ICU 812

Thank you for that clarification. I have not done any reading on the subject for a number of years. DNA research has revolutionized many aspects of anthropology. Iwas fascinated reading "Collapse" By Jarad Diamond. I was surprised to read that the original settlers in Greenland were not the Inuit, but the Vikings.

A number of years ago, I read a book titled "1491" by Charles C. Mann which talks about the Americas before Columbus.


Another story is how the Japanese and Russians treated the Ainu, a hunter-gathering people who ocupied the the Northern Japanese archipelago and the Sakhalin peninsula before the coming of the other "advanced" cultures. I looked hat up on Wikpedia.

how thr russians treat them?

i know the ainu were considered an embarrassement by the japanese

[winn dixie]

Originally Posted by ICU 812

Thank you for that clarification. I have not done any reading on the subject for a number of years. DNA research has revolutionized many aspects of anthropology. Iwas fascinated reading "Collapse" By Jarad Diamond. I was surprised to read that the original settlers in Greenland were not the Inuit, but the Vikings.

A number of years ago, I read a book titled "1491" by Charles C. Mann which talks about the Americas before Columbus.


Another story is how the Japanese and Russians treated the Ainu, a hunter-gathering people who ocupied the the Northern Japanese archipelago and the Sakhalin peninsula before the coming of the other "advanced" cultures. I looked hat up on Wikpedia.

Anthropology is very interesting.
I used the term asiatic very generically. But it fits for the pacific region and the different waves of migration.

[winn dixie]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

dude, don't call them indians.

they're not indians as that was 600 year mistake that was never corrected.

siberians maybe.

Dilbert is technically right. And the term goes hand to hand with the growing sentiments about the truths of Columbus.
Indian is a controversial term. Some tribes use it. Others don't. Even infighting within tribes about the term happens. Some tribes keep the term because that's all they've known and don't want to lose recognition.

[dilbert firestorm]

naming names for indigenous North Americans is problematic. there are many different tribes in different regions. they're all related to one degree or another.

central america has an official name for the native there. its Meso American and that is primarily due to the empires that used to exist prior to the Spanish invasion.

South america supposedly has one, but have not found the name for them.

[winn dixie]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

naming names for indigenous North Americans is problematic. there are many different tribes in different regions. they're all related to one degree or another.

central america has an official name for the native there. its Meso American and that is primarily due to the empires that used to exist prior to the Spanish invasion.

South america supposedly has one, but have not found the name for them.

Truth

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

dude, don't call them indians.

they're not indians as that was 600 year mistake that was never corrected.

siberians maybe.

There were different tribes with different languages and customs. I am sure they came from different places. Collectively they were called Indians.