Welcome to ECCIE, become a part of the fastest growing adult community. Take a minute & sign up!

Welcome to ECCIE - Sign up today!

Become a part of one of the fastest growing adult communities online. We have something for you, whether you’re a male member seeking out new friends or a new lady on the scene looking to take advantage of our many opportunities to network, make new friends, or connect with people. Join today & take part in lively discussions, take advantage of all the great features that attract hundreds of new daily members!

Go Premium

Go Back   ECCIE Worldwide > Texas > Houston > The Sandbox - Houston
test
The Sandbox - Houston The Sandbox is a collection of off-topic discussions. Humorous threads, Sports talk, and a wide variety of other topics can be found here. If it's NOT an adult-themed topic, then it belongs here

Most Favorited Images
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
Most Liked Images
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
Top Reviewers
cockalatte 649
MoneyManMatt 490
Still Looking 399
samcruz 399
Jon Bon 398
Harley Diablo 377
honest_abe 362
DFW_Ladies_Man 313
Chung Tran 288
lupegarland 287
nicemusic 285
Starscream66 281
You&Me 281
George Spelvin 270
sharkman29 256
Top Posters
DallasRain70818
biomed163571
Yssup Rider61190
gman4453322
LexusLover51038
offshoredrilling48784
WTF48267
pyramider46370
bambino43106
The_Waco_Kid37344
CryptKicker37228
Mokoa36497
Chung Tran36100
Still Looking35944
Mojojo33117

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 03-19-2019, 10:05 PM   #1
VitaMan
Premium Access
 
VitaMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 27, 2010
Location: houston
Posts: 10,500
Encounters: 70
Default insults and threats - expanded

Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) filed a lawsuit on Tuesday, claiming Twitter, two parody accounts and a Republican political consultant violated the First Amendment and defamed him. In addition to $250 million in damages, Nunes is demanding the social media platform disclose the identities behind the anonymous accounts that have caused him particular suffering, according to the suit: “Devin Nunes’ Mom” and “Devin Nunes’ Cow.”



The suit, filed in state court, alleged violations of Virginia’s law against insults. It also brought claims against Twitter for conspiracy and negligence. The tech company, Nunes said, “intended to generate and proliferate false and defamatory statements” about him. Its failure to police mean tweets, puns and memes, posted by accounts purporting to be his mother and cow, caused him “extreme pain and suffering.”


Since filing, Nunes has been ridiculed, and the case has been labeled by experts who spoke to The Washington Post as, in all likelihood, doomed to fail. But others believe there’s more to the lawsuit than Nunes’s desire to create a spectacle.

According to First Amendment attorney Floyd Abrams: The speech involved is protected for several reasons.
“Rep. Nunes seems to think the First Amendment exists to protect him from his critics when it’s actually meant to protect his critics from him,” said Abrams, calling the suit “bizarre” and “likely unconstitutional.”
As an initial matter, the First Amendment applies only to government conduct and “Twitter is not the government,” Abrams said.
Libel is a technical term, legally. It’s a written defamatory statement. The landmark Supreme Court case, New York Times v. Sullivan, made clear that when the plaintiff is a public official (which Nunes is, as a U.S. Congressman) he or she has to prove that the alleged defamatory statement was false and the publisher either knew it was untrue or had serious doubts about its veracity, to succeed in a libel case.
Years after that pivotal case, in a lawsuit very similar to Nunes’s, Jerry Falwell sued Hustler magazine for a satirical advertisement that portrayed him in an outhouse having sex with his mother. The court rejected Falwell’s claim that Hustler violated the First Amendment, ruling that although the ad was provocative and insulting, a public figure was not protected from “patently offensive speech.”
According to Abrams, courts also have a history of ruling speech that is “most obviously hyperbole” or “fighting words” is protected.
Abrams said that the statements Nunes alleges are defamatory are “precisely what the First Amendment protects,” including insults, charges of misconduct and attacks on a siting member of Congress. “The public is allowed to and is protected when it criticizes — even in the harshest terms — people serving in public office,” he added.
In 1996, Congress passed the Communications Decency Act, providing broad protection for materials posted on the Internet, including social media platforms like Twitter and Facebook. Under Section 230 of the Act, these tech giants are viewed as distributors, not publishers, and shielded from liability.
“Unless the platform is actually a co-creator of the content, it’s simply distributing,” Stuart Karle, former general counsel for the Wall Street Journal and the former chief operating officer of Reuters News, told The Post.
Generally, a site would not be responsible for a user who posts objectionable content; inviting and encouraging users to post is not usually viewed as contributing content. Courts look to whether the host has acted as a neutral middleman, or if it created or disseminated the information. If it turns out to be the latter, the court could hold the platform liable.
By opting to disclose the users’ identities, Twitter would highlight its role as a distributor, not a publisher, said Karle, now an adjunct professor at Columbia Journalism School.
But, he qualified, Twitter could also argue it should not be compelled to until the court analyzes each statement alleged to be defamatory and determines whether it’s factual — or, in other words, is a statement that can be proven true or false. They cannot be opinions, hyperboles or a nasty insults, and that could prove fatal for Nunes.
If the offending tweets are deemed non-factual, Twitter may not be compelled to disclose identities of the two anonymous users. And many of the tweets and memes listed in the complaint are unlikely to be regarded as a statement of fact, according the Karle.
And, just as no one actually thought Falwell was in the outhouse with his mother, it would be difficult to view the mean tweets as anything more than hyperbole or rude.
For example: Karle said that statements like “Alpha Omega wines taste like treason” were “neither comprehensible nor factual.” Memes, like comments, also tend not to be factual.
According to the complaint, Devin Nunes’ Mom called Nunes a “presidential fluffer and swamp rat,” a statement that is an opinion and, perhaps, and insult, but it’s not factual.
The cow’s account allegedly said that “Devin’s boots are full of manure. He’s udder-ly worthless and its pasture time to move him to prison,'” who would be construed as an insult, too.
But an insult is not an offense in the U.S. To be actionable, it must clearly create a threat of violence, and “we know there was no violent result,” said Karle. “There weren’t riots at Nunes’ events.”
VitaMan is online now   Quote
Old 03-19-2019, 10:28 PM   #2
Slitlikr
Valued Poster
 
Slitlikr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 28, 2014
Location: Whiskey Flats
Posts: 5,175
Encounters: 72
Default

What's twitter?
Slitlikr is offline   Quote
Old 03-19-2019, 10:43 PM   #3
Russ38
Hope Abandoned
 
Russ38's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2, 2010
Location: South of Heaven
Posts: 7,263
Encounters: 63
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by VitaMan View Post
The cow’s account allegedly said that “Devin’s boots are full of manure.
Here’s your answer to the other thread Slit.....I thought that shit was a forbidden topic uitb....
Russ38 is offline   Quote
Old 03-19-2019, 10:47 PM   #4
Slitlikr
Valued Poster
 
Slitlikr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 28, 2014
Location: Whiskey Flats
Posts: 5,175
Encounters: 72
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ38 View Post
Here’s your answer to the other thread Slit.....I thought that shit was a forbidden topic uitb....

Oh my damn Russ!
Great sleuth job.
Slitlikr is offline   Quote
Old 03-20-2019, 06:22 AM   #5
Sistine Chapel
Valued Poster
 
Sistine Chapel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 30, 2016
Location: I Support Immigrants ♥️💯👍🏽🤷🏽
Posts: 8,255
Encounters: 2
Default

Devin Looney Tununes is a complete and total tool...and a orange man cock sucker
Sistine Chapel is offline   Quote
Old 03-20-2019, 07:27 AM   #6
tbone2u
Account Disabled
 
Join Date: Mar 28, 2009
Location: Houston
Posts: 10,105
Encounters: 11
Default

You know him personally sc?
tbone2u is offline   Quote
Old 03-20-2019, 07:34 AM   #7
boardman
Making Pussy Great Again
 
boardman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 4, 2010
Location: In your closet, in your head...
Posts: 16,091
Encounters: 26
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sistine Chapel View Post
Devin Looney Tununes is a complete and total tool..
I tend to agree with you. Only complete and total tools file or threaten lawsuits as a result of being disparaged by an anonymous online account...


Oh, wait, you and Nunes have more in common than you thinck.
boardman is online now   Quote
Old 03-20-2019, 09:54 AM   #8
kerwil62
Valued Poster
 
kerwil62's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 11, 2010
Location: H-town
Posts: 13,015
Encounters: 89
Default

He's trying to sue Twitter because folks are fucking with him?? LMAO!!!!!

Extreme pain and suffering??? LMAO!!!!!
kerwil62 is offline   Quote
Old 03-20-2019, 11:01 AM   #9
Sig9er
Valued Poster
 
Join Date: Aug 7, 2016
Location: Houston
Posts: 832
Encounters: 40
Default

Mates,
He' and others are looking to bring a case to the Supreme Court to amend or overturn a ruling wherein public figures cannot sue for defamation. I believe Clarence Thomas has commented the ruling should be overturned.

So I am told.

Cheers
Sig9er is offline   Quote
Old 03-20-2019, 12:10 PM   #10
Sistine Chapel
Valued Poster
 
Sistine Chapel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 30, 2016
Location: I Support Immigrants ♥️💯👍🏽🤷🏽
Posts: 8,255
Encounters: 2
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kerwil62 View Post
He's trying to sue Twitter because folks are fucking with him?? LMAO!!!!!

Extreme pain and suffering??? LMAO!!!!!
He's a total water bag toting fuck boy.
Sistine Chapel is offline   Quote
Old 03-20-2019, 01:11 PM   #11
boardman
Making Pussy Great Again
 
boardman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 4, 2010
Location: In your closet, in your head...
Posts: 16,091
Encounters: 26
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sistine Chapel View Post
He's a total water bag toting fuck boy.

Because he got butt hurt over an internet persona???
Does that make you a total water bag toting fuck boy too?
I wonder if he's had his SHMB Epic Meltdown.



After all y'all are two peas in a pod...
boardman is online now   Quote
Old 03-20-2019, 07:06 PM   #12
tbone2u
Account Disabled
 
Join Date: Mar 28, 2009
Location: Houston
Posts: 10,105
Encounters: 11
Default

If the shoe fits....
tbone2u is offline   Quote
Reply



AMPReviews.net
Find Ladies
Hot Women

Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright © 2009 - 2016, ECCIE Worldwide, All Rights Reserved