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Originally Posted by LexusLover
it is just as likely that Lubby's would put up a sign advising ALL CITIZENS, consistent with the authority of the CHL rules and regulations, to LEAVE THEIR HANDGUNS OUTSIDE!
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Actually it's not very likely at all. Lubys still doesn't post those signs, nor do most places. They are actually pretty rare in Texas. You see them a lot at corporate type office buildings but pretty rarely at restaurants, retail stores, etc.
I have carried pretty much 100% of the time since the CHL was put in place in Texas and I just dont' run into those signs as I go about my business and, if I do run into a sign on occasion, I don't use that business anymore.
But the truth is the sign is pretty rare here.
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Originally Posted by LL
What's your percentage of hits when under fire?
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The average person with training will hit about 1 out of 4 in a gunfight. The misses do go somewhere, which is what the training is for. You don't shoot at a guy standing in front of 20 people.
There are no guarantees in this world. If you can't take a shot without endangering innocents then you don't take the shot. There is no rule that says a concealed carrier HAS to fire. In fact if you look nationwide you will see that concealed carriers hit bystanders less often than cops in shootouts because cops tend to feel like they HAVE to shoot. Having the option, as a law abiding citizen, to defend ourselves with a firearm, hasn't caused harm to the general population in any of the states with concealed carry laws so your fretting about "what if" is bullshit, the concealed carry programs have been around long enough that if they caused the blood of the innocents to flow in the streets we would have seen it by now. It simply didn't happen.
But the reality is that it's often just the presence of a firearm that is enough for defensive use. I have drawn my carry gun twice and did not have to fire either time. The second time in particular I know for a fact that the 2 guys approaching me were going to kill me, they told the cops as much. But when they saw I was not easy prey they changed their minds and were arrested a few minutes later running like hell. One had a gun and one had a knife.
Why didn't the want to fight? Because they expected to see an unarmed victim. Bad guys don't WANT to get in gunfights. they go into situations expecting they will be the only ones with guns. All people like you want to do is make sure they are able to do that, since the criminals will ignore all your pretty gun laws anyway.
That's sort of the textbook definition of "criminal".
Dr Susan Gratia-Hupp - Survivor of the 1991 Kileen TX Lubys Shooting
