RYAN'S SPEECH....GREAT !

[Whirlaway]

Best line IMO:

“College graduates should not have to live out their 20s in their childhood bedrooms, staring up at fading Obama posters and wondering when they can move out and get going with life.”

[joe bloe]

Obama wants everyone to think they're stuck on the escalator, that they can't progress without the government. He wants those young people, who can't get jobs, to rely on the government to take care of them, for the rest of their lives.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXCuGvsThEw

[wellendowed1911]

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

Best line IMO:

“College graduates should not have to live out their 20s in their childhood bedrooms, staring up at fading Obama posters and wondering when they can move out and get going with life.”

Too bad that Ryan forgot to mention that college students who are our future shouldn't have to worry about how they can afford college or whether the fact they want to go to college and better themselves will risk the chance of putting their parents in debt. Pell Grant under Ryan's system will lose 170 Billion dollars- that's a lot of students: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1383178.html

[CJ7]

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

Best line IMO:

“College graduates should not have to live out their 20s in their childhood bedrooms, staring up at fading Obama posters and wondering when they can move out and get going with life.”

Best Lie IMO ...

he forgot to mention this lil ditty ..

More than 1 million students would lose Pell grants entirely over the next 10 years under Rep. Paul Ryan’s budget, according to an analysis that the national reform organization Education Trust provided to The Huffington Post.
And by the looks of it, the Ryan budget, which is slated to hit the House floor this week, would hit the poorest kids hardest. [...]
The budget would cut Pell grant eligibility for students who attend classes on a less-than-halftime schedule — which usually means low-income students who need to work their way through college.
And it gets worse. Sixty percent of students who receive Pell grants also take out loans — twice the rate for college students overall — so they might be doubly hit by the Ryan cuts: In addition to receiving less Pell money, they would have to start paying interest on their loans while still in school.

A new study shows that nearly half of American college students drop out before obtaining a degree, with cost being one of the main factors cited. Since 1985, the cost of college tuition and fees has nearly sextupled, while student loan debt in the U.S., according to the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, has cleared $1 trillion.
At the same time that they’re proposing to cut Pell Grants, Republicans have become fond of promoting for-profit colleges, despite those schools having a record of leaving students buried in debt and with bleak job prospects. Currently, more than three-quarters of for-profit students fail to earn a degree after six years and they are more likely to default on their loans than students at non-profit institutions.

[wellendowed1911]

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

Best line IMO:

“College graduates should not have to live out their 20s in their childhood bedrooms, staring up at fading Obama posters and wondering when they can move out and get going with life.”

Also, there are many college students who have illness and get sick as well- Romney and Ryan want to repeal Obamacare which has a provision that keeps children up until the age of 26 on their parents insurance- I think that comes in handy.

Can either you or Joe tell me what Romney's/Ryan plan was to fix Healthcare?????

Oh wait a minute- I know what it is- it's the Health Plan called RomneyCare which is essentially Obamacare with a few modifications!!!

[wellendowed1911]

Here's Fact Check about Ryan's speech- remember anyone can deliver a speech- but it's full of lies and misinformation:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/...6#.UD-WbdaPVOI

[Whirlaway]

There you have the difference; Obama destroys the upward mobility of the private sector, forcing government dependence...and the Liberals love the outcome.

Which is Ryan's 2nd best line of the night:

"None of us have to settle for the best this administration offers – a dull, adventureless journey from one entitlement to the next, a government-planned life, a country where everything is free but us."

[wellendowed1911]

Paul Ryan’s acceptance speech at the Republican convention contained several false claims and misleading statements. Delegates cheered as the vice presidential nominee:Accused President Obama’s health care law of funneling money away from Medicare “at the expense of the elderly.” In fact, Medicare’s chief actuary says the law “substantially improves” the system’s finances, and Ryan himself has embraced the same savings.
Accused Obama of doing “exactly nothing” about recommendations of a bipartisan deficit commission — which Ryan himself helped scuttle.
Claimed the American people were “cut out” of stimulus spending. Actually, more than a quarter of all stimulus dollars went for tax relief for workers.
Faulted Obama for failing to deliver a 2008 campaign promise to keep a Wisconsin plant open. It closed less than a month before Obama took office.
Blamed Obama for the loss of a AAA credit rating for the U.S. Actually, Standard & Poor’s blamed the downgrade on the uncompromising stands of both Republicans and Democrats.And when he wasn’t attacking Obama, Ryan was puffing up the record of his running mate, Mitt Romney, on taxes and unemployment

[Dawgs]

Originally Posted by wellendowed1911

Too bad that Ryan forgot to mention that college students who are our future shouldn't have to worry about how they can afford college or whether the fact they want to go to college and better themselves will risk the chance of putting their parents in debt. Pell Grant under Ryan's system will lose 170 Billion dollars- that's a lot of students: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1383178.html

Why should I have to pay for someone else's kid to go to college?

[Whirlaway]

You are late in reading your response faxes from the Obama campgain; the plant closing was in 2009...The WAPO, and your buddies at MSNBC had the story wrong......


And Ryan's other memorable (and very true) zinger:

Listen to the way we’re spoken to already, as if everyone is stuck in some class or station in life, victims of circumstances beyond our control, with government there to help us cope with our fate.

[wellendowed1911]

Originally Posted by Dawgs

Why should I have to pay for someone else's kid to go to college?

Why should I have to pay for someone when they go to the ER and have no insurance?

Why should I have to pay for a storm damage that didn't affect me or my residence?

Why should someone have to pay for bridges, roads, if they don't own a car?

Why should a couple who has no children pay education taxes to a public school?

Are you starting to catch my drift- you post was very idiotic- take your complaints up to the IRS- if there's anything in this world that you would want to pay for someone else EDUCATION should be at the top.

To answer the question you should feel ok paying for someone else's child to go to college of all place so we don't have idiots like you in this world.

[joe bloe]

Originally Posted by Dawgs

Why should I have to pay for someone else's kid to go to college?

Because the government owns ALL the money. They get to decide how it's allocated. Just remember, when you get your paycheck, "you didn't earn that." Did you think you earned it, because you were are so smart and worked so hard?

[wellendowed1911]

Originally Posted by Dawgs

Why should I have to pay for someone else's kid to go to college?

And by the way dumbass- do you know how expensive college tuition is today? Even Ron Paul during the primaries mentioned there was a time long ago albiet that a student could actually pay his way through school with a part time job- those days are long gone.
Average 4 year college tuition is 33,000 for 4 years- do you think most parents have 33,000 disposable income? Oh they have loans right- so I guess in America we sell the dream to go to college, but when you get out you are going to be in so much debt-
Most MD's once they graduate are on average 150 to 300,000 in debt- yeah that's a way to start your career.

[Whirlaway]

Woowoooo more free shit in Obama's 2nd term..........................

Which brings up another GREAT line from Ryan's speech:

They (Obama) have no answer to this simple reality: We need to stop spending money we don’t have.

[Dawgs]

The government did not pay for my college education, I did and I'm far from rich. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink. If my kids wanted to attend college, and one did, it was paid by me not the government. If they show a tendency or drive they will find a way. We already pay for their basic education, which by the way is very basic nowadays. Now if you want to up those standards back to where they used to be I'm all for that.