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[Keyhole Arc Blow]

When I schedule appoints with ladies I usually like to schedule an hour so I can have a chance at MSOG and so I can do DATY.

When I do DATY it isn't just to get the lady warmed up like some guys might do, the whole point is so I can make her O. I enjoy tasting, smelling, seeing and feeling her but nothing if more enjoyable than knowing you're the reason her back was arched, she breathing heaving and she's now writhing in bliss.

Most women can't cum at the drop of a hat like men can especially when they're with someone who doesn't know their body and how to make them O, so I schedule accordingly figuring 15 or so minutes should give me enough time to find out the combo to her love button and have lift off. So far I've had success and was able to get most providers I've seen off.

Now comes the reason I made this thread, not to brag or gloat but to complain/find out why it seems that once the provider gets theirs and I pop they want to scoot me out the door before I can even get my pants on.

Most of the providers I've seen offer MSOG, and the whole reason I schedule the whole hour is to have time for the second shot. After the first shot most providers are already dressed by the time I'm done flushing the cover and cleaning up junior. Usually I have 15 or more minutes left of the clock.

I will admit I am a 5pump chump, but I see it as an advantage as I get to pop then be ready to go again literally seconds later. Most ladies don't see it that way, for them once I pop I need to leave immediately which is where I have the problem and the whole point of this thread.

So friends, is the "blame" more on me for not letting the lady know I can go again or is it more on her for not making me feel welcome for the whole hour?

Most of you have probably seen my posts and stance on personal hygiene/cleanliness, but I'm kind of worried that's part of the problem. I do shower before every date, in fact directly before I leave for the date I shower and put on clean clothes so I'm not sure if BO or something related is the issue. How would I even find out, message provider's I've seen and ask?

Feeling like I'm not getting my money's worth for the hour really rustles my jimmies to the point to where I might start scheduling half hour dates instead and totally disregard her pleasure, basically be selfish and stick it in dry instead of letting her get warmed up and enjoy my company.

tl;dr I schedule 1 hour dates to take my time and for MSOG, ladies have me out the door in 45mins or less with no MSOG

[alaine]

All I can say is WOW....try choosing women that are NOT high volume. ALSO IMHO, not that hygiene is the issue (I doubt it)....but El Paso is HOTTT, Like Dallas, so just because you showered 30 minutes prior to arriving, doesn't mean that you don't have sweaty balls. So just to be sure....shower again when you get to the in call....wash the ass and cock (taint too)AGAIN with soap and a washcloth. Also, make sure you are clean shaven on the big head and at least trimmed around the little head.
Again, I doubt this is your issue...sounds like the providers are just trying to get to the end of their day and trying to carve off enough time to eat a sandwich.

[KatieKatie]

One hour. 10 minute to say hi. 15-20 minutes to DATY. 6 minutes sex with you. 10 minutes to recover. I don't think I know any provider who will offer round two with 15 minutes left. Maybe you should mention it in your emails so she is prepared to rush through the DATY.

[Eva Damita]

Being a low volume provider has it's perks. I had a great play date for 90 minutes with a gent today and we went 3 times, no qualms or questions about it - he told me prior to foreplay, and I am a MSOG provider he knew. He was not a 5 pump chump, average time spent to O, but remained hard seemingly after our O's, and would get turned on again with each tongue stroke. As for who's at fault - mostly you, hun...

Do thorough research and make sure its understood before the date and make it known in your initial contact. We might have women's intuition, but we can't read your mind. Many gents leave after 45-50 minutes and are concerned to move on to their day. The catalyst to many ladies evolving to expecting you to leave and are comfortable with that, is due to the ever-growing trend of plummeting requests for full hours. BnG's are convenient for some and not to mention "economical" to many hobbyist with tight schedules, along with half hours as well. This is no reason, nor does it justify rushing.

Remember, we as providers have profiles, pictures, and valuable information on our personalities, do's and don'ts, turn ons/offs, and general rules and obligations - hobbyists have little. Therefore, it's your main priority to speak up, and kindly share your own desires. Make MSOG a deal breaker and not just a desire if it is a problem, and once again, research. And you mentioned comfort. How comfortable are you if she serves chilled champagne, provides freshly sliced fruit, hot bod, great skills, but all thats on your mind is a 2nd pop? All the basic A qualities are there, but that MSOG idea is like a monkey on your back. Get it off. It's my goal to give A+ affairs, and only thorough communication makes that happen.

[gimme_that]

Originally Posted by zx10

Most of the providers I've seen offer MSOG, and the whole reason I schedule the whole hour is to have time for the second shot. After the first shot most providers are already dressed by the time I'm done flushing the cover and cleaning up junior. Usually I have 15 or more minutes left of the clock........

They may be what they call "selective MSOG." I think if you are flushing the cover then proceeding to take another shower that's a clear indication you are finished. Even if you didn't shower and just wiped yourself off genitalia wise, some providers who don't do cim or swallow might not want to do BBBJ after you have came due to the taste.

I feel like if I book an hour as long as I'm respectful of her time and don't go over at the 59 minute mark I'm done. But since I know that's not enough time for me Id book slightly more if I was you. Book a half hour more or 90 minutes and you can lick all you want. Say what you want especially if its msog.

Originally Posted by zx10

I do shower before every date, in fact directly before I leave for the date I shower and put on clean clothes so I'm not sure if BO or something related is the issue. How would I even find out, message provider's I've seen and ask?

That shower you take after the appointment, is that all within the span of your hour, or do you use her time for that? So you take 3 showers? And lord forbid if you aren't sure you smell good, your probably musty as hell I bet. Get a brillo or scour pad and you'll be straight.

Originally Posted by zx10

....totally disregard her pleasure, basically be selfish and stick it in dry instead of letting her get warmed up and enjoy my company.

If she needs lube she's not enthused, tell her to reach for it and keep it pushing. If you like daty just do what you want....if your not motivated to do it and place time limits on it don't do it. Every curve of your tongue and trick you do countlesss others do as well. Some are sensitive, some don't come at all,...others are so jaded and unsensitive nothing you will do will cause it. Some can act out an orgasm well. Its not hard, just ask for what u want.

[Still Looking]

I have NEVER DATY and with the exception of a few unanticipated attacks I was NON-GFE. No DATY & NO KISSING!

Interesting thing is 90% of my sessions went over... way over in a lot of cases!

[pyramider]

Women do not O. I do not care how long one chews the kitty it just don't happen. Women orgasming is an urban myth.

[RoxanneReynolds]

There have been many times where I have gone into over time just for that second pop. We ain't got time for that! just kidding.....but still....if you're cleaning up with only 15 mins left to go, maybe you should be more specific when you book your time.

[Keyhole Arc Blow]

Originally Posted by alaine

ALSO IMHO, not that hygiene is the issue (I doubt it)....but El Paso is HOTTT, Like Dallas, so just because you showered 30 minutes prior to arriving, doesn't mean that you don't have sweaty balls. So just to be sure....shower again when you get to the in call....wash the ass and cock (taint too)AGAIN with soap and a washcloth. Also, make sure you are clean shaven on the big head and at least trimmed around the little head.

Yeah I've noticed even with the AC on full blast in the car, leather seats still make me sweat enough to wet my shirt in the small of my back. I might just have to start showering/rinsing off at her place before the fun begins, during the warmers months anyway.

Also I always make sure the little guy and his two friends are hairless when I head out to see the ladies.

Originally Posted by KatieKatieNYC

One hour. 10 minute to say hi. 15-20 minutes to DATY. 6 minutes sex with you. 10 minutes to recover. I don't think I know any provider who will offer round two with 15 minutes left. Maybe you should mention it in your emails so she is prepared to rush through the DATY.

Thing is I saw a provider recently that I'd seen before, and we pretty much stuck to your scedule and I was still able to get in a second pop without running over. It doesn't take me 10 mins to recover, unless I've been spanking it all week like a 14year old who just discovered porn. 15 mins left seems like ample time for round 2

Originally Posted by Eva Damita

And you mentioned comfort. How comfortable are you if she serves chilled champagne, provides freshly sliced fruit, hot bod, great skills, but all thats on your mind is a 2nd pop? All the basic A qualities are there, but that MSOG idea is like a monkey on your back. Get it off. It's my goal to give A+ affairs, and only thorough communication makes that happen.

MSOG isn't the monkey on my back, the monkey on my back is the idea that I didn't get my money's worth. I'd be totally fine if I didn't get a second chance to pop, so long as she didn't want to scoot me out the door after 35mins. The comfort thing comes in when I go to flush the cover and clean off my gentleman's sausage in the span of 30 seconds and she's already dressed again sitting at the foot of the bed with an expectant expression, like I should say "thanks for the chance to poke you, gotta run." All the expensive champagne and sliced fruit in the world wouldn't make me feel comfortable in a situation like that.

Originally Posted by gimme_that

They may be what they call "selective MSOG." I think if you are flushing the cover then proceeding to take another shower that's a clear indication you are finished. Even if you didn't shower and just wiped yourself off genitalia wise, some providers who don't do cim or swallow might not want to do BBBJ after you have came due to the taste.

I feel like if I book an hour as long as I'm respectful of her time and don't go over at the 59 minute mark I'm done. But since I know that's not enough time for me Id book slightly more if I was you. Book a half hour more or 90 minutes and you can lick all you want. Say what you want especially if its msog.

That shower you take after the appointment, is that all within the span of your hour, or do you use her time for that? So you take 3 showers? And lord forbid if you aren't sure you smell good, your probably musty as hell I bet. Get a brillo or scour pad and you'll be straight.

If she needs lube she's not enthused, tell her to reach for it and keep it pushing. If you like daty just do what you want....if your not motivated to do it and place time limits on it don't do it. Every curve of your tongue and trick you do countlesss others do as well. Some are sensitive, some don't come at all,...others are so jaded and unsensitive nothing you will do will cause it. Some can act out an orgasm well. Its not hard, just ask for what u want.

I'd understand if they were selective MSOG, that's fine. Just like some women claim to be selective DATY. Usually I don't hop in the shower after the first pop, I just take off the cover and go flush it then wipe off junior with TP/wipes, taking care not to have any hangers on once I'm done cleaning. In the 30 to 45 seconds I do this is when the lady has thrown her clothes on and is waiting for me to say my goodbyes.

I'd love to book longer sessions, hell I'd book overnights if the pocketbook would allow.

As I said earlier, I almost never shower after the appointment, at least not a her place. I do shower directly before leaving my house headed to her place, and on a few occasions I have rinsed off at the lady's incall because I headed over right after work. I do count that 5min shower as on the clock, I'd have no problem if that was part of my hour there. As far as the smell thing, leather seat + 15min car ride = well I'm sure you can guess there's gona be some perspiration.

I could argue the merits of lube, and the woman not being wet but that's a topic that merits it's own thread entirely. Likewise with the orgasm thing.

Originally Posted by Still Looking

I have NEVER DATY and with the exception of a few unanticipated attacks I was NON-GFE. No DATY & NO KISSING!

Interesting thing is 90% of my sessions went over... way over in a lot of cases!

Intredasting, though no DATY is almost a deal breaker as it's an essential part of the experience for me. To each their own though.

Originally Posted by pyramider

Women do not O. I do not care how long one chews the kitty it just don't happen. Women orgasming is an urban myth.

Even when you tickle the taint? What has this world come to?!


So far what I've learned is speak up about what I want, an hour isn't enough time for the activities I like, I should probably ask to shower when I get to the incall, and women don't actually orgasm.

More input is always appreciated.

[samantha thom]

Yes, communication is the key. If you want something, just say so. Others cannot read your mind. I agree with what some people say that 15 mins left is too little time. In the past, I have gone over time in the 2nd round and the gent was having a tough time. Maybe book 1.5 hours next time.

[Keyhole Arc Blow]

Originally Posted by RoxanneReynolds

There have been many times where I have gone into over time just for that second pop. We ain't got time for that! just kidding.....but still....if you're cleaning up with only 15 mins left to go, maybe you should be more specific when you book your time.

More specific as about wanting the second shot or...?

Also more poking? Errbody got time fo dat!

[Danielle Reid]

I'm low volume but I get bored easily if I'm not connected with the guy. I hate going more than 10 minutes over...after that I'm charging you for another HH. All business, babe.

My suggestion: Be open BEFORE you make arrangements. Most women that like guessing games.

[LNK]

When you leave the arena to clean up and flush, say something to the effect, "Don't move a muscle sweet thing, I plan to jump your sweet bones again in 2 minutes, as soon as I clean up a bit."

Then she'll have a clue you're expecting to use the rest of your time.

If she jumps up and gets dressed at that point, then I say you're justified in complaining.

But if you haven't made your intentions clear, how is she to know what your plans are?

Worth a try at least.

[Safyra Jewels]

Most of my appts prefer multi hour for this same reason. Its important for them to have quality time just to talk and catch up or even spend a few more licks DATY before poking right in. I have never had a time limit placed on how long it should take to O but sounds like you want your O in 20 then your MSOG in 2 - 15min go''s? Thats pushing it and also adding pressure if not on yourself definitely on the provider. So maybe you have just had a few bad experiences but keep trying and like she said communication is priority...

[Danielle Reid]

Originally Posted by LNK

When you leave the arena to clean up and flush, say something to the effect, "Don't move a muscle sweet thing, I plan to jump your sweet bones again in 2 minutes, as soon as I clean up a bit."

Don't ever say that...ever