Website or No?

[Guest122922]

It's always curious to me that I get inquires about my services... and many of them express the appreciation that I actually have a website.

It is an in look into my personality and also lays out what my expectations are as far as booking an appointment.

It's odd that I look at many providers profile ... and they don't have a website.

So, does a website have any clout on clients seeking you out?

[mark77070]

They tend to be on the pretentious side, "I'm an elegant lady who enjoys the finer things in life and is as comfortable in diamonds and pearls and little black dressses as I am in cowboy boots and Levi's blah blah blah." I can't think of anyone I've ever been with whose website tipped the scale when I was making the decision whether to meet. It doesn't hurt either.


I'm not looking for some free porn, but I do like pictures, recent unretouched pictures. Your website, for example, has that excellent picture of you barefoot by the beach, green blouse, white miniskirt, legs that go on forever, athletic-looking, smiling. And very sexy, I might add. You list rates, which is helpful; it's a felony for us to even ask anymore. More pictures require a password, which is annoying. Again, I'm not looking for free porn. I'm trying to decide whether to see you. What do you like to do in your spare time? Beaches, art galleries, food festivals, cute dog pictures (cuddling with your little poodle or kissing your Retriever make killer pictures).



I do get nervous because the one indicator about whether your site is current is that you had a special back in January, 2021. That isn't current, so it makes me wonder how current your other information is.


All in all, your website is very positive, and the one picture I see of you does arouse my interest. And of course I'm mindful of all the intelligent postings you make.

[Wile E Coyote]

Websites can be good as long as they contain accurate info (up to date pics, yes/no list, current donation for time lists, location of incall, ect.). But, like many ads that buried once off the first couple of pages, if they overblow or inflate services that are not rendered or portray anything else inaccurate, then, yes, you are baiting business in the door to get one time customers, but also opening yourself up to multiple reviews that dispute it, leaving you a prime target for backlash, linking the site to prove it.

Having a website is always better then not having one, but, like all things, it has to be current or it is useless. It does speak volumes about you on how updated the info on your website is, so if it is not managed properly, then peaking the interest of potential clients will be few and far between, especially if the last website update was over a year ago.

[TexTushHog]

I like web sites. But Wile manes a good point. It’s good to have them up to date. If it’s nit up,to date, that raises questions about how on top of your business you are.

[Guest122922]

ok... I will take these slams with much consideration.

Mark 77070
They tend to be on the pretentious side, "I'm an elegant lady who enjoys the finer things in life and is as comfortable in diamonds and pearls and little black dresses as I am in cowboy boots and Levi's blah blah blah." I can't think of anyone I've ever been with whose website tipped the scale when I was making the decision whether to meet. It doesn't hurt either.

And I get what you're sayin .... but just because we took the time to put together an attractive website does not necessarily mean we are pretentious.
I have rates posted ... yes. How should that make a difference that we particpate on this board.

If anything, you will know I post different rates in different locations (dont ask .... it's something I've learned over the years that is beneficial)]

Lastly, I would like to say .... as I stated in a different thread ... we providers deal with many expenses to stay on top of the game.
Photographers are a dime a dozen ..... but finding that QUALITY one who has an artistic eye .... and not just looking to take photos of naked ladies.... well, we have to pilpher our way through that as well.
The two amazing photograhpers I've had in the past are retired now ... and so looking for the right match can take some time.
I'm comfortable with the photos on my site .... as I still take very good care of myself .... and not much has changed (as you will see by my reviews).

[mark77070]

I apologize. I certainly didn't mean to slam you.

[gimme_that]

Usually I’ll go to the p411 page first.

At minimum I feel current pictures with body type not hidden, rates, and rules need to be there. Common sense stuff so I don’t have to inquire about much. If it’s not on your website, p411, or reviews people can see without paid membership (like this site) the website will not serve its proper purpose which is to inform.

The verbiage isn’t the make or break for me. The info usually is. If I have to click too many thing or type a password to see basic pictures it’s too much.

[Wile E Coyote]

Originally Posted by Torre Tames

ok... I will take these slams with much consideration.
......
And I get what you're saying .... but just because we took the time to put together an attractive website does not necessarily mean we are pretentious.
I have rates posted ... yes. How should that make a difference that we participate on this board.

If anything, you will know I post different rates in different locations (don't ask .... it's something I've learned over the years that is beneficial)]

Lastly, I would like to say .... as I stated in a different thread ... we providers deal with many expenses to stay on top of the game.
Photographers are a dime a dozen ..... but finding that QUALITY one who has an artistic eye .... and not just looking to take photos of naked ladies.... well, we have to pillpher our way through that as well.
The two amazing photographers I've had in the past are retired now ... and so looking for the right match can take some time.
I'm comfortable with the photos on my site .... as I still take very good care of myself .... and not much has changed (as you will see by my reviews).

In all my years of hobbying, the ONLY providers that I have seen for a session who has lived up to their ads/websites are the ones whose ads have just one word in it, "available".

An ad/website usually will have photos of a provider with those photos being photoshopped, she is posed in ways not to show the flab or stretch marks or even with artsy photos designed to coax new clients to get that phone to ring. But the fact is, once a guy sets an appointment, the real lady is who he is going to see, not just her good side or her with a ton of makeup on, dressed up like a naughty school girl for example. Going to her incall, he will initially see her maybe in lingerie and she will get naked so no hiding them body flaws. There have been a few so bad that I either had to walk after seeing her disrobe or make up something to offend her so she would kick me out thinking she was saving face.

The only thing that deceptive photos will get a provider is a bunch of one time clients who thinks she has nice pics, but when he sees her in person, he has a different opinion and/or the service was below average after all the hype of the wording of the ads/website and exaggerated reviews that portrayed her as if she is the unicorn or providers. And, while some providers have repeat regulars that often come see them (with the inflation and skyrocketing rates, guys tend to stick with who they know will give them good service for the money as opposed to the unknown to them), I have no doubt the vast majority of providers main business are from one time clients. And those ladies are the ones complaining about it being slow, stagnant and just plain quiet for new business.

[Guest122922]

Wylie E. Coyote
he will initially see her maybe in lingerie and she will get naked so no hiding them body flaws.

An ad/website usually will have photos of a provider with those photos being photoshopped.
She is posed in not to show the flab or stretch marks or even with artsy photfynos designed to coax new clients to get that phone to ring.

But the fact is, once a guy sets an appointment, the real lady is who he is going to see, not just her good side or her with a ton of makeup on,
dressed up like a naughty school girl for example. Going to her incall, he will initially see her maybe in lingerie and she will get naked so no hiding them body flaws.

And you don't think we go through the same ordeal? Over and Over again?
If they show their profile info

Many say "average" but, in that case I inquire about their BMI.
Most always it will be "heavy set" or "obese"
Not that I have a problem with it .... but it would be good to know upfront so I know how to interact with them.
Sometimes I just have to say …. “I appreciate your interest, but I don’t think we would be a good match".
Just another level of proper screening. Which is gladly my protocol.

Wylie E. Coyote
More pictures require a password, which is annoying.

Ok... I'm holding my tounge on this one.
So... what I've learned ... is those who are asking for the passcode are actually serious about scheduling an appointment.
It does us no good to give easy access to our photos... for guys to galk at and JO

Wylie E. Coyote
...you are baiting business in the door to get one-time customers

HHMMM.... so your saying that some pics might be misleading.
Well, of course we want to look our best .... and that definitely shows a bit of class on our part.
Let me tell you somthin .... attending a photo shoot is not an easy thing.
Especially if you've hired a makeup artist and have to sit in the chair for 1+ hours before you pose ....
look fresh.... and work HARD for the right position ... perfect lighting ...posing as if your relaxed .... yada yada.

You dudes don't understand what all is entailed.
But .... it's important for us to have quality pics .... as it reflects our "rank of category" we desire.

Selfies .... they just kinda suck
It's a reflection of how the provider wants to present herself.
So ... even if the photos are not up to date.
It's definitely an insight on how we portray our services ... and the level we are on ..

[DownForWhatever]

As a 30-year Road Warrior, having to use the multiple hobby sites around the globe...it has always been a luxury to find a personal website...usually with better content than the standard offering.

BUT...the vast majority of personal sites are full of empty pages, calendars, blogs...and in general disrepair.

Torre...yours in pretty good shape...but you might want to check your SPECIALS page:

HOLIDAY SPECIAL! $280 1hr - $340 1.5hr
THRU JAN 15th, 2021

[Wile E Coyote]

Originally Posted by Torre Tames

And you don't think we go through the same ordeal? Over and Over again?
If they show their profile info

Many say "average" but, in that case I inquire about their BMI.
Most always it will be "heavy set" or "obese"
Not that I have a problem with it .... but it would be good to know upfront so I know how to interact with them.
Sometimes I just have to say …. “I appreciate your interest, but I don’t think we would be a good match".
Just another level of proper screening. Which is gladly my protocol.


So you know what us guys have to go through when the latest pics posted on a provider's ad are from 2+ years ago then. While a guy being obese and/or not the cutest guy in the world may turn you off or deem him not compatible to you, the differences are, he did not deceive you by sending you old pics where he happened to be 40+ lbs lighter and telling you that it is him currently and the fact that he is paying you for your honesty in looks and services, you are not paying him a dime to have updated pics or to be your prince charming as far as looks go.

Ok... I'm holding my tounge on this one.
So... what I've learned ... is those who are asking for the passcode are actually serious about scheduling an appointment.
It does us no good to give easy access to our photos... for guys to galk at and JO

That depends on the type of pics you post. If you post full nude photos or action shots, then a guy JO to your pics is your fault. Besides, when you do post those kinds of pics and a guy has to pay a premium of $20 to access those photos, if I was a cheap guy and liked your presentation, then I would pay it and JO as opposed to paying you $250+ to come see you. Or better yet, there is lots of free porn on the internet, so there is that too.


HHMMM.... so your saying that some pics might be misleading.
Well, of course we want to look our best .... and that definitely shows a bit of class on our part.
Let me tell you somthin .... attending a photo shoot is not an easy thing.
Especially if you've hired a makeup artist and have to sit in the chair for 1+ hours before you pose ....
look fresh.... and work HARD for the right position ... perfect lighting ...posing as if your relaxed .... yada yada.

You dudes don't understand what all is entailed.
But .... it's important for us to have quality pics .... as it reflects our "rank of category" we desire.

Selfies .... they just kinda suck
It's a reflection of how the provider wants to present herself.
So ... even if the photos are not up to date.
It's definitely an insight on how we portray our services ... and the level we are on ..

If you do not have the where with all or funds to cover the cost of doing business, then maybe this business is not for you since you cannot seem to find the time or funds to do it right. After all, you did say you want to present yourself as best you can and going with out dated pics are definitely not the best way to present yourself. I have no doubt there are plenty of people who can do great pic shots that do not charge glamour shot pricing or if you play your cards right, will not charge you anything for fantastic pics.

Originally Posted by DownForWhatever

As a 30-year Road Warrior, having to use the multiple hobby sites around the globe...it has always been a luxury to find a personal website...usually with better content than the standard offering.

BUT...the vast majority of personal sites are full of empty pages, calendars, blogs...and in general disrepair.

Torre...yours in pretty good shape...but you might want to check your SPECIALS page:

HOLIDAY SPECIAL! $280 1hr - $340 1.5hr
THRU JAN 15th, 2021

That right there is bold shows that if a potential client has to point out something like that, then what else is not taken care of?

A website is work, but usually in the end, it is worth it. Providers/pimps for providers that copy and paste the same ads over and over are spotted very easily by non-newbies to the hobby world.

[Grace Preston]

In my opinion-- whether or not a website is really worth the expense would depend partially upon the individual lady.


Its nice to have one. Heck, I have one-- but in some cities its 100% unnecessary. The vast majority of my new visitors find me on Twitter or P411. But then again, I'm not the sort that requires people to fill out my booking form in full before I'll even consider speaking to you... its not my style and never has been. Twitter has been wonderful for me simply because I enjoy interacting with people.


Honestly-- if I wasn't touring new cities from time to time, I don't know if I'd even bother with maintaining a website. I'm at the point where I can rely on repeat clientele in many places.

[Lucas McCain]

WEC, why are you always telling these women what they should do? It's her business. She can run it how she sees fit. She has been in the game long enough. I'm pretty sure if it was not working for her, she would have changed her business model a long time ago. If you don't like her business model, don't see her. I highly doubt she will lose any sleep over it.

Having said that, I agree about the pictures. Nobody is jacking off to pictures of her with all of the free porn and plenty of other nude photos of very hot women floating around on the internet. Hell, I can't even remember the last time I even rubbed one out just from looking at a picture.

[Wile E Coyote]

Originally Posted by Lucas McCain

WEC, why are you always telling these women what they should do? It's her business. She can run it how she sees fit. She has been in the game long enough. I'm pretty sure if it was not working for her, she would have changed her business model a long time ago. If you don't like her business model, don't see her. I highly doubt she will lose any sleep over it.

Having said that, I agree about the pictures. Nobody is jacking off to pictures of her with all of the free porn and plenty of other nude photos of very hot women floating around on the internet. Hell, I can't even remember the last time I even rubbed one out just from looking at a picture.

LM, it is a good idea to read the subject of the thread and the other posts that follow before you comment on it. Now, I know you just like to shoot first and maybe ask questions later, especially if it someone you like to troll.

On this occasion, the OP asked for opinions on a provider website, and while a few other guys commented and told her their opinion, and like you have done for years, you have to call me out because I gave mine. If she did not want opinions then she should not have started the thread to begin with.

Get a fucking life and quit trying to find things wrong with what others post.

[Lucas McCain]

Originally Posted by Wile E Coyote

Get a fucking life and quit trying to find things wrong with what others post.

You should heed your own advice, homeboy. The last time I checked, I don't have to pay women to hang out with me to go to sporting events.

And my guess is the OP was looking more for a "yes" or "no" answer with little commentary and not multiple lectures from you of all people, genius.