Over population?

[tinman483]

I haven't seen them, but where are/is the over population nuts celebrating this corona virus thing?

[Tobor the 8th Man]

What do you mean by overpopulation nuts?

[Lester Krinklesac]

Raises hand... Darwin rules.
If you’re too weak to survive flu like symptoms maybe the game should be over.

[RetiredSubmariner]

I believe that population-density drives these pandemics.

I breed pigs. My wife and I attend various USDA sponsored events on swine health and management. Whenever you confine lots of pigs in a small room, their diseases multiply. This quickly requires antibiotics to keep the animals healthy enough to be slaughtered.

We own 150-acres of forest, and our pigs free-range within the woods of our property.

At these swine health conferences they always tell us that for each disease being discussed, we need not worry. Because since our pigs live in low population-density, and they get plenty fresh air and sunlight, very few diseases should ever happen here.

The town where we live has a population-density of 10 people per square-mile.

There are cities where people 'live' with over ten-thousand people per square-mile. Those are places that breed disease.

[Unique_Carpenter]

Overpopulation?
Earths resources being consumed at exponential rate last few centuries.
Population increase at a heavy rate
And, the wealthy guys going for non-earth resources cause they see it coming.

[tinman483]

Ok 'tobor'. What are you referring to; That they are nuts? Or the 'overpopulation crowd" ?

[Holedriller]

Sub, I agree with you. Our environmental regulatory framework and concentration of jobs by tax incentives is creating what I call "forced urbanization". With the concentration of any species, diseases are much more prolific.

[GCW]

Human overpopulation is only one contributing factor. Habitat destruction, global warming, confined animal feeding operations, factory farms, eating exotic wild animals (bats!!), greed, lack of planning, lack of education, political leadership (or lack there of) and others, are all among the factors leading to pandemics. We've always had periodic pandemics throughout our history including the bubonic plague (1300s), Spanish flu (1918-1920), and several others. Just do a Google search on "Pandemics". CNN also has an excellent documentary on the subject "Unseen Enemy:Pandemic". Stay safe and stay healthy!!

[JRLawrence]

Originally Posted by RetiredSubmariner

I believe that population-density drives these pandemics.

I breed pigs. My wife and I attend various USDA sponsored events on swine health and management. Whenever you confine lots of pigs in a small room, their diseases multiply. This quickly requires antibiotics to keep the animals healthy enough to be slaughtered.

We own 150-acres of forest, and our pigs free-range within the woods of our property.

.....

Wow,
free-range pigs. Does the Department of Conservation allow you to have hunters come onto your property to hunt those wild pigs, or do the have to have a big swine capture trap so the can kill them all.

In Missouri the regulations have changed; we used to be told to shoot any wild pig on sight, now the MO Dept of Conservation wants to put out the capture traps themselves so they get them all at one time.

[RetiredSubmariner]

Originally Posted by JRLawrence

Wow,
free-range pigs. Does the Department of Conservation allow you to have hunters come onto your property to hunt those wild pigs, or do the have to have a big swine capture trap so the can kill them all.

My pigs are not 'wild' pigs.

My breeding boars are 'large black' that normally run 800 to 900 pounds.

My sows are 'Berkshires' that normally run 300 to 400 pounds.

They all love to have their bellies rubbed, and behind their ears rubbed.

These breeds are not generally susceptible to the 'boar taint' virus, so they usually do not have the strong odor that tainted pigs have.

We butcher for ourselves, and we haul pigs to a USDA licensed processing facility to hand all the pork that we market.

I have never had a need to 'trap' them, I guess when they load onto a livestock trailer they are sort of trapped.

I have never had a need to 'kill them all'. That would kind of stop the breeding business.

When my boars are under 100-pounds I put a chest harness on them and take them out for daily walks. So they are well socialized to being with me.

[mtabsw]

Originally Posted by tinman483

I haven't seen them, but where are/is the over population nuts celebrating this corona virus thing?

I doubt anyone is seriously cheering the virus on for some kind of Thanos quest or old testament kind of vengeance for the unworthy or non-believers. But I could be wrong.

Over the course of human history, periodic natural disasters, deadly pandemics (look up Black Plague) and of course lots of wars, have all served to periodically thin the herd.

Whether this Covid19 thing does or not remains to be seen.

[burkalini]

we have over 600,000 people already dead this season from the flu worldwide and about 4000 from covid19. I don't think covid is a herd thinner yet