A story to end the abortion debate and silence the murderers forever

[LovingKayla]

http://f2photographybylexi.wordpress...-joshua-fretz/

[Old Dingus]

Very strong stuff.

Old Dingus

[jbravo_123]

Agreed, strong emotional stuff, but I don't think it's going to change the opinions of anyone who has strong feelings on the subject.

[nwarounder]

The irony of the Repubs stance is that they want these babies to be born into a world where the parents do not want them, but then they want to cut spending of every single program that would allow them to live after they were born. I wish the two parties would switch their stance on this issue, Dems go pro-life and Repubs go pro-choice. At least then it would make some sense.

[jbravo_123]

Originally Posted by nwarounder

The irony of the Repubs stance is that they want these babies to be born into a world where the parents do not want them, but then they want to cut spending of every single program that would allow them to live after they were born. I wish the two parties would switch their stance on this issue, Dems go pro-life and Repubs go pro-choice. At least then it would make some sense.

Yeah, or that they feel like they're being forced to pay for the living standards of other people, but they're fine forcing a woman to have another being feeding off of her body against her will.

There's also the dichotomy of their generally anti-abortion and pro-death penalty stance.

There's that saying that Conservatives only care about you before you're born and after you're 18.

We need the pro-death party! Pro-abortion and pro-death penalty!

[Old Dingus]

I guess I missed it. The Republicans cut funding on private adoptions?

Old Dingus

[jbravo_123]

Originally Posted by Old Dingus

I guess I missed it. The Republicans cut funding on private adoptions?

Old Dingus

Also, it's not like even adoption is a good solution. There are all sorts of problem with our adoption system and of course, this all costs taxpayer money as well.

Carrying a fetus until birth isn't a guaranteed safe situation for the health of the mother. Even if it is successfully delivered, there's still great physical, emotional, and financial strain upon the mother as well.

We're not even talking about additional issues such as cases of rape or incest (which I believe the proposed Texas law that was recently filibustered does not allow exceptions for).

[nwarounder]

Originally Posted by Old Dingus

I guess I missed it. The Republicans cut funding on private adoptions?

Old Dingus

Last time I checked the foster care system is overrun with kids that nobody wants. Nice theory, when we don't have a foster care system, your theory may hold some water, but until then you are simply misinformed and the assumption that they will be adopted is false.

[JD Barleycorn]

My sister adopted two children from the foster system. She votes republican. Not only that, her husband's nephew stayed on with her after the divorce. Three childen that were "unwanted"; one was a junior criminal, one has severe personality problems, and one is developmentally slow. Quite a load for a working single mom.


NWA, you are repeating fairy tales and believing they are facts.

[nwarounder]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

My sister adopted two children from the foster system. She votes republican. Not only that, her husband's nephew stayed on with her after the divorce. Three childen that were "unwanted"; one was a junior criminal, one has severe personality problems, and one is developmentally slow. Quite a load for a working single mom.


NWA, you are repeating fairy tales and believing they are facts.

"An estimated 400,540 children and youth were in foster care on September 30, 2011, according to the Adoption and Foster Care Analysis and Reporting System (AFCARS) preliminary report released July, 2012."

That's not my idea of a fairy tale, it's a nightmare for these children. I understand you trying to be a good little conservative, and it's very noble of your relatives, but everyone needs to wake up.

[CJ7]

Originally Posted by nwarounder

The irony of the Repubs stance is that they want these babies to be born into a world where the parents do not want them, but then they want to cut spending of every single program that would allow them to live after they were born. I wish the two parties would switch their stance on this issue, Dems go pro-life and Repubs go pro-choice. At least then it would make some sense.

totally amazing isn't it?

save the kids
put them through hell by cutting funding that keeps them alive

all for political issues .. translation

rail about educating them,,
how much it costs taxpayers to support them
then blame it all on the dems

[Guest032516]

Originally Posted by LovingKayla

http://f2photographybylexi.wordpress...-joshua-fretz/

It will change absolutely nothing.

Women getting abortions already know this, by and large. So do the doctors who perform the abortions. So do the politicians who provide funding and legal protection.

They simply do not care.

[jbravo_123]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

My sister adopted two children from the foster system. She votes republican. Not only that, her husband's nephew stayed on with her after the divorce. Three childen that were "unwanted"; one was a junior criminal, one has severe personality problems, and one is developmentally slow. Quite a load for a working single mom.


NWA, you are repeating fairy tales and believing they are facts.

While there are certainly success stories, it doesn't change the actual fact that our foster care system is currently both overloaded and underfunded.

That's not to say abortion is an ideal solution, but to say "hey, just give the baby up for adoption and everything will be ok" is oversimplification at best.

[IIFFOFRDB]

Originally Posted by LovingKayla

http://f2photographybylexi.wordpress...-joshua-fretz/

WOW

[WTF]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

My sister adopted two children from the foster system. She votes republican. Not only that, her husband's nephew stayed on with her after the divorce. Three childen that were "unwanted"; one was a junior criminal, one has severe personality problems, and one is developmentally slow. Quite a load for a working single mom.


NWA, you are repeating fairy tales and believing they are facts.

You make the point for abortion, you are just to biased to see it.

Kids nobody wants...a junior criminal, one with severe personality problems and a retard. That is wtf you wind up with when women have unwanted children.

Originally Posted by jbravo_123

That's not to say abortion is an ideal solution, but to say "hey, just give the baby up for adoption and everything will be ok" is oversimplification at best.

No JD's sister adopted a criminal, a retard and a antisocial PD.So that means that the morning after pill and any other form of abortion should be outlawed.