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Old 09-11-2012, 11:09 AM   #1
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Building 7 – Still The Smoking Gun

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Old 09-11-2012, 11:10 AM   #2
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I once questioned the "official version" of the Building 7 collapse, and you'd have thought I came out against motherhood and hunting dogs. Good luck!
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Old 09-11-2012, 11:30 AM   #3
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Are you fucking kidding me? You're a 9-11 Truther?

Building 7 burned to the ground from all of the flaming debris that hit if from the other building. And since that debris included not only chunks of the North Tower itself, but also chunks of the plane that hit and went through the North Tower, Building 7 actually was hit by a plane. So, factually, you are wrong.

It was on fire when the North Tower collapsed in the MORNING and it burned for HOURS while thousands of people watched. It didn't collapse until almost evening. There was no explosion from a bomb hidden by Dick Cheney.

I know this because I saw it on TV myself as did MILLIONS of others.

Here is a little light reading for you from Wikipedia:

"On September 11, 2001, 7 WTC was damaged by debris when the nearby North Tower of the World Trade Center collapsed. The debris also ignited fires, which continued to burn throughout the afternoon on lower floors of the building. The building's internal fire suppression system lacked water pressure to fight the fires, and the building collapsed completely at 5:21:10 pm.[2] The collapse began when a critical internal column buckled and triggered structural failure throughout, which was first visible from the exterior with the crumbling of a rooftop penthouse structure at 5:20:33 pm."

So what exactly are you trying to say?

And please don't post any links from conspiracy web sites. They are full of lies and distortions designed to fool the gullible (hint, hint).
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Old 09-11-2012, 11:47 AM   #4
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See what I mean? Never mind. No, I'm not a 9-11 Truther, but I am skeptical of the official report.

Even people on the 911 Commission are dissatisfied with the report.

Max Cleland: http://www.salon.com/2003/11/22/cleland_2/

Tom Kean: http://norcaltruth.org/2011/03/05/th...et-up-to-fail/

So why am I lambasted for being skeptical of the "official report"? Why are all of you, who are so sure that President Bush and his gang of Rumsfeld, Cheney and others, were nothing but liars, so convinced that the "official" 911 Commission Report is as inerrant as the Bible?

These people are well known liars. The Commission members knew it. They were very dissatisfied with the process. I don't know what was being covered up, but something damn well sure was. I'd like to know.

And I'd like a better explanation for two planes being able knock down three towers into their own footprint which has never happened before in history. Buildings don't collapse into their own footprint by accident. There are too many questions left unanswered.

I do not think it was an inside job, or anything like that, but the Bush Administration was covering up something. If that isn't obvious, I don't know what is.

I've been through this before on another thread. I'm not going through it again. I was just warning See.

Call me whatever you like. The only thing we know for certain is that government lies.
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You know I have to admit something to you guys based on this thread.

If this had happened when Obama was in office, I'd be a truther too. I think it's based on your point of view of the truth. Doesn't mean you're right, but that doesn't matter to someone who won't see with their eyes and hear with their ears.
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Old 09-11-2012, 12:34 PM   #6
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Are you fucking kidding me? You're a 9-11 Truther?

Building 7 burned to the ground from all of the flaming debris that hit if from the other building. And since that debris included not only chunks of the North Tower itself, but also chunks of the plane that hit and went through the North Tower, Building 7 actually was hit by a plane. So, factually, you are wrong.

It was on fire when the North Tower collapsed in the MORNING and it burned for HOURS while thousands of people watched. It didn't collapse until almost evening. There was no explosion from a bomb hidden by Dick Cheney.

I know this because I saw it on TV myself as did MILLIONS of others.

Here is a little light reading for you from Wikipedia:

"On September 11, 2001, 7 WTC was damaged by debris when the nearby North Tower of the World Trade Center collapsed. The debris also ignited fires, which continued to burn throughout the afternoon on lower floors of the building. The building's internal fire suppression system lacked water pressure to fight the fires, and the building collapsed completely at 5:21:10 pm.[2] The collapse began when a critical internal column buckled and triggered structural failure throughout, which was first visible from the exterior with the crumbling of a rooftop penthouse structure at 5:20:33 pm."

So what exactly are you trying to say?

And please don't post any links from conspiracy web sites. They are full of lies and distortions designed to fool the gullible (hint, hint).
Just a few more gullible people...

Paul Craig Roberts wrote the article, The 11th Anniversary of 9/11. Dr. Roberts is an American economist and served as an Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan Administration.

Catherine Austin Fitts served as managing director and member of the board of directors of the Wall Street investment bank Dillon, Read & Co. Inc., as Assistant Secretary of Housing and Federal Housing] Commissioner at the United States Department of Housing and Urban Development in the first Bush Administration, and was the president of Hamilton Securities Group, Inc., an investment bank and financial software developer.

U.S. Military Officers for 9/11 Truth
Pilots For 9/11 Truth
Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth
Firefighters for 9-11 Truth
http://www.911truth.org/
http://rememberbuilding7.org/

New 9/11 truth documentary among ‘most watched’ on PBS this week.
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Louis Freeh says the 911 Commission Report is a cover up.

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/...7/122900.shtml

We've killed thousands, lost many of our own, and almost completely eliminated Liberty in the US based on 9-11, and we still don't know the whole story. And you people get upset because I dare question the "official" story. Well, write Tom Kean, Max Cleland, Louis Freeh, and some of the other Commission members who say the whole thing is either a lie, cover up, or at best, incomplete.

You people amaze me.
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Old 09-11-2012, 03:24 PM   #8
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Dan Rather on Building 7. Says it looks like a controlled demolition.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nvx904dAw0o
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Old 09-11-2012, 03:31 PM   #9
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Argue with these people on the credibility of the "official" 911 Report.

41 U.S. Counter-Terrorism and Intelligence Agency Veterans
Challenge the Official Account of 9/11

http://patriotsquestion911.com/Count...m_Veterans.pdf

And there are many more. Yet you people cringe at the thought that the "official" report might be defective. Unbelievable.
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Are you fucking kidding me? You're a 9-11 Truther?

Building 7 burned to the ground from all of the flaming debris that hit if from the other building. And since that debris included not only chunks of the North Tower itself, but also chunks of the plane that hit and went through the North Tower, Building 7 actually was hit by a plane. So, factually, you are wrong.

It was on fire when the North Tower collapsed in the MORNING and it burned for HOURS while thousands of people watched. It didn't collapse until almost evening. There was no explosion from a bomb hidden by Dick Cheney.

I know this because I saw it on TV myself as did MILLIONS of others.

Here is a little light reading for you from Wikipedia:

"On September 11, 2001, 7 WTC was damaged by debris when the nearby North Tower of the World Trade Center collapsed. The debris also ignited fires, which continued to burn throughout the afternoon on lower floors of the building. The building's internal fire suppression system lacked water pressure to fight the fires, and the building collapsed completely at 5:21:10 pm.[2] The collapse began when a critical internal column buckled and triggered structural failure throughout, which was first visible from the exterior with the crumbling of a rooftop penthouse structure at 5:20:33 pm."

So what exactly are you trying to say?

And please don't post any links from conspiracy web sites. They are full of lies and distortions designed to fool the gullible (hint, hint).

what, no conspiracy web sites ???

arrrrrrrrgh ... there goes the entire thread.
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Old 09-11-2012, 05:19 PM   #11
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Buildings pancake for a lot less rasons than having a onehundred story buiding crashing down near them.
The two towers should not have pancaked except for the melting of the steel in the cnetral core of the building.
If you understand construction you can easily understand that each floor is not designed to carry the entire weight of the floor above without the supporting columns.
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Old 09-11-2012, 09:53 PM   #12
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Buildings pancake for a lot less rasons than having a onehundred story buiding crashing down near them.
The two towers should not have pancaked except for the melting of the steel in the cnetral core of the building.
If you understand construction you can easily understand that each floor is not designed to carry the entire weight of the floor above without the supporting columns.
agree totally, I had dinner with a fireman who said the same thing
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