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12-24-2023, 08:49 AM
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GOP Strategist predicts House majority will flip back to the democrats in 2024.
Makes sense. Not a conspiracy theory as far as I can tell, this is a straight prediction based on facts and math.
And why not? The current Congress is likely the least effective, least respected bunch of yahoos in US history.
https://apple.news/ABfbL5XfcSJ6uYJKOIUQvfg
Republicans likely to lose House control in 2024, GOP strategist predicts
December 17, 2023
The Republican Party is likely to lose the House of Representatives in 2024 after a new districting ruling in New York, GOP strategist Susan Del Percio said on Saturday.
The GOP has held a razor-thin majority in the House since underperforming expectations in the 2022 midterm elections, with the margin continuing to shrink as time has gone on. At the start of the month, Representative George Santos, a New York Republican, was expelled from his seat after nearly a year's worth of allegations and reports detailing his numerous lies and improprieties. Other Republicans, like former House Speaker House Kevin McCarthy, have also announced their intention to retire from office at the end of the year, further imperiling the GOP majority come 2024.
Last week, the New York State Supreme Court issued a ruling that called for the state's congressional district boundaries to be redrawn, with observers widely predicting that Democrats in the state will use the opportunity to shift two to six Republican-led districts in their favor. The GOP notably overperformed in the traditionally blue Empire State in last year's midterms, taking seats in districts that went for Joe Biden in 2020 and helping seal their party's House majority. This call for a new congressional map could help undo those gains in the next election cycle.
Del Percio, a Republican political strategist whose list of past clients includes the likes of Rudy Giuliani, suggested as much herself during a Saturday appearance on MSNBC. When asked about the significance of New York's decision for Republicans in 2024, Del Percio told host Al Sharpton that she expects the party to lose their majority in the House.
"Come January 1st, there is going to be a two-seat majority for Republicans, and they need every vote they can get," she said. "Frankly, I don't see how they hold on to the House. Of the six districts, three are absolutely competitive. Two are most likely to flip. So it will change that landscape, obviously. And I think it will lead to a [House Minority Leader] Hakeem Jeffries speakership. Let's put it that way."
Newsweek reached out to Republican officials via email for comment.
Republican efforts to maintain or remake congressional maps in their favor, a process known as gerrymandering, have faced major setbacks in several states beyond New York, like New Mexico, due to similar court orders. The current congressional session has also been one of the most unproductive in American history, and has been plagued with scandal and infighting, leading many pundits to predict voter discontent with GOP leadership in the chamber.
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12-24-2023, 12:08 PM
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I for one am against gerrymandering regardless of which party is trying to undermine the elections. New York and California are blue states and always will be. Th article is well written and sensible, not exactly why conspiracy came to mind.
The comment about this being the least effective house, needs some clarification otherwise it’s an opinion and Like Daddy used to say opinions are like assholes ,everyone has one and they all stink.
How can they be more effective taking in their position
1. Extremely small majority
2. Dems have the Senate.
3 Dims have the Whitehouse.
4. Democrats vote in lockstep, I find it hard that no one disagrees with some of their ideas.
5. Biden would Veto any bill they put forward.
Can the American Public be that naive?
One of the joys of being old, believe me there aren’t that many., I will not have to witness the total destruction of America should we be blessed with the Dems controlling the House, Senate and Oval. We need to work together as a team , not as R’s and D’S. Surely there is some common ground.
Anyway have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
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12-24-2023, 01:27 PM
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Actually is not a fact, they have passed several bills that the Senate failed to address.
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12-24-2023, 04:17 PM
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Of course it’ll flip back. The Republicans can’t govern.
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12-24-2023, 04:21 PM
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Actually is not a fact, they have passed several bills that the Senate failed to address.
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Rather that the Senate cares not to acknowledge. Because they don’t have to. The Republican congress has zero leverage so passing worthless paper and calling it a bill is pointless.
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12-24-2023, 04:46 PM
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Do you think the GOP Congress has been effective, Ofa? Seems outside of squabbling over leadership, driving the nation to a shutdown and making up shit to impeach Biden with is all they’ve even tried to do.
Please point out their accomplishments. Using facts, please.
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12-24-2023, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
Makes sense. Not a conspiracy theory as far as I can tell, this is a straight prediction based on facts and math.
And why not? The current Congress is likely the least effective, least respected bunch of yahoos in US history.
https://apple.news/ABfbL5XfcSJ6uYJKOIUQvfg
Republicans likely to lose House control in 2024, GOP strategist predicts
December 17, 2023
The Republican Party is likely to lose the House of Representatives in 2024 after a new districting ruling in New York, GOP strategist Susan Del Percio said on Saturday.
The GOP has held a razor-thin majority in the House since underperforming expectations in the 2022 midterm elections, with the margin continuing to shrink as time has gone on. At the start of the month, Representative George Santos, a New York Republican, was expelled from his seat after nearly a year's worth of allegations and reports detailing his numerous lies and improprieties. Other Republicans, like former House Speaker House Kevin McCarthy, have also announced their intention to retire from office at the end of the year, further imperiling the GOP majority come 2024.
Last week, the New York State Supreme Court issued a ruling that called for the state's congressional district boundaries to be redrawn, with observers widely predicting that Democrats in the state will use the opportunity to shift two to six Republican-led districts in their favor. The GOP notably overperformed in the traditionally blue Empire State in last year's midterms, taking seats in districts that went for Joe Biden in 2020 and helping seal their party's House majority. This call for a new congressional map could help undo those gains in the next election cycle.
Del Percio, a Republican political strategist whose list of past clients includes the likes of Rudy Giuliani, suggested as much herself during a Saturday appearance on MSNBC. When asked about the significance of New York's decision for Republicans in 2024, Del Percio told host Al Sharpton that she expects the party to lose their majority in the House.
"Come January 1st, there is going to be a two-seat majority for Republicans, and they need every vote they can get," she said. "Frankly, I don't see how they hold on to the House. Of the six districts, three are absolutely competitive. Two are most likely to flip. So it will change that landscape, obviously. And I think it will lead to a [House Minority Leader] Hakeem Jeffries speakership. Let's put it that way."
Newsweek reached out to Republican officials via email for comment.
Republican efforts to maintain or remake congressional maps in their favor, a process known as gerrymandering, have faced major setbacks in several states beyond New York, like New Mexico, due to similar court orders. The current congressional session has also been one of the most unproductive in American history, and has been plagued with scandal and infighting, leading many pundits to predict voter discontent with GOP leadership in the chamber.
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This is a great example of anti-Republican bias among journalists, "Republican efforts to maintain or remake congressional maps in their favor, a process known as gerrymandering, have faced major setbacks in several states beyond New York, like New Mexico, due to similar court orders."
The Republicans are not gerrymandering in New York or New Mexico. The Democrats are. New Mexico has somehow managed to assure that all three of its Congressional Seats are filled by Democrats, even though most of southern and eastern New Mexico votes Republican.
Democrats did such an effective job of gerrymandering New York in 2022 that New York Courts threw out the Democrats' map and instructed a special master to draw the map instead. The result is that Republicans control 10 of 26 House Districts in New York right now. The popular vote in House races in 2022 was 3,199,496 for Democrats and 2,525,335 for Republicans. So the Republicans are slightly underrepresented, but the outcome was much fairer than in many states.
Now a more partisan New York Court of Appeals has determined that the districts will be redrawn again. What's most likely to happen is that a bipartisan committee will unsuccessfully try to come up with a map. They won't, and instead the Democratic led legislature will come up with one that strongly favors Democrats.
So yes Yssup, the Democrats may very well take control of the House in 2024, due in no small part to partisan gerrymandering.
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12-24-2023, 09:30 PM
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Yupper.
Remember a *kid* on this site exclaiming that the demmies couldn't legislate. He sure is quiet about the current House and the monkeys running it.
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12-25-2023, 07:40 AM
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If governing means you pass bills that have no way to pay for themselves and damage this Republic , you are 100% , Republicans suck at it, on the other hand if you are fine with digging the hole deeper with no exit ramp, then the Democrats are for you. You say potatoe, I say potato. Imagine that a conservative disagreeing with a libturd, go figure
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12-25-2023, 07:44 AM
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What is a “libturd,” OFA?
Can’t help yourself, can you? And your argument is merely an excuse for the GOPs inability to govern both the nation and themselves. Try pointing out what good they accomplished on 2023.
You can’t. Hence the childish name calling.
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12-25-2023, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by oilfieldace
If governing means you pass bills that have no way to pay for themselves and damage this Republic , you are 100% , Republicans suck at it, on the other hand if you are fine with digging the hole deeper with no exit ramp, then the Democrats are for you. You say potatoe, I say potato. Imagine that a conservative disagreeing with a libturd, go figure
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Now. Now. Putting stipulations on stuff.
Statement was simply, and factually, that the repubs have run a do nothing Congress. Don't get your panties in a wad if your representative ain't doing his job. Vote for one that will.
And with your response, you wonder why people treat you a certain way.
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12-25-2023, 07:07 PM
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I agree with the OP.
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12-25-2023, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
Makes sense. Not a conspiracy theory as far as I can tell, this is a straight prediction based on facts and math.
And why not? The current Congress is likely the least effective, least respected bunch of yahoos in US history.
https://apple.news/ABfbL5XfcSJ6uYJKOIUQvfg
Republicans likely to lose House control in 2024, GOP strategist predicts
December 17, 2023
The Republican Party is likely to lose the House of Representatives in 2024 after a new districting ruling in New York, GOP strategist Susan Del Percio said on Saturday.
The GOP has held a razor-thin majority in the House since underperforming expectations in the 2022 midterm elections, with the margin continuing to shrink as time has gone on. At the start of the month, Representative George Santos, a New York Republican, was expelled from his seat after nearly a year's worth of allegations and reports detailing his numerous lies and improprieties. Other Republicans, like former House Speaker House Kevin McCarthy, have also announced their intention to retire from office at the end of the year, further imperiling the GOP majority come 2024.
Last week, the New York State Supreme Court issued a ruling that called for the state's congressional district boundaries to be redrawn, with observers widely predicting that Democrats in the state will use the opportunity to shift two to six Republican-led districts in their favor. The GOP notably overperformed in the traditionally blue Empire State in last year's midterms, taking seats in districts that went for Joe Biden in 2020 and helping seal their party's House majority. This call for a new congressional map could help undo those gains in the next election cycle.
Del Percio, a Republican political strategist whose list of past clients includes the likes of Rudy Giuliani, suggested as much herself during a Saturday appearance on MSNBC. When asked about the significance of New York's decision for Republicans in 2024, Del Percio told host Al Sharpton that she expects the party to lose their majority in the House.
"Come January 1st, there is going to be a two-seat majority for Republicans, and they need every vote they can get," she said. "Frankly, I don't see how they hold on to the House. Of the six districts, three are absolutely competitive. Two are most likely to flip. So it will change that landscape, obviously. And I think it will lead to a [House Minority Leader] Hakeem Jeffries speakership. Let's put it that way."
Newsweek reached out to Republican officials via email for comment.
Republican efforts to maintain or remake congressional maps in their favor, a process known as gerrymandering, have faced major setbacks in several states beyond New York, like New Mexico, due to similar court orders. The current congressional session has also been one of the most unproductive in American history, and has been plagued with scandal and infighting, leading many pundits to predict voter discontent with GOP leadership in the chamber.
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This is a great example of anti-Republican bias among journalists, "Republican efforts to maintain or remake congressional maps in their favor, a process known as gerrymandering, have faced major setbacks in several states beyond New York, like New Mexico, due to similar court orders."
The Republicans are not gerrymandering in New York or New Mexico. The Democrats are. New Mexico has somehow managed to assure that all three of its Congressional Seats are filled by Democrats, even though most of southern and eastern New Mexico votes Republican.
Democrats did such an effective job of gerrymandering New York in 2022 that New York Courts threw out the Democrats' map and instructed a special master to draw the map instead. The result is that Republicans control 10 of 26 House Districts in New York right now. The popular vote in House races in 2022 was 3,199,496 for Democrats and 2,525,335 for Republicans. So the Republicans are slightly underrepresented, but the outcome was much fairer than in many states.
Now a more partisan New York Court of Appeals has determined that the districts will be redrawn again. What's most likely to happen is that a bipartisan committee will unsuccessfully try to come up with a map. They won't, and instead the Democratic led legislature will come up with one that strongly favors Democrats.
So yes Yssup, the Democrats may very well take control of the House in 2024, due in no small part to partisan gerrymandering.
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exactly. no one steals elections like the DNC. even the CCP is jealous.
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Yupper.
Remember a *kid* on this site exclaiming that the demmies couldn't legislate. He sure is quiet about the current House and the monkeys running it.
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if you say so
bahahahahaaa
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12-27-2023, 12:17 AM
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its better to have a do nothing congress.
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