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Old 05-06-2013, 06:29 PM   #1
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Default British national archives show a son was born to Obama sr in 1961

IN KENYA

You get what you need in the first couple paragraphs. It's an interesting read and a wonderful eyebrow raiser. At this point I don't think our chicken shit government (who I dispose technically isn't chicken shit since they are all Muslim brotherhood) won't do a damn thing about the terrorist in the White House.

http://gopthedailydose.com/2013/05/04/british-national-archives-show-a-son-was-born-to-obama-sr-in-1961-in-kenya/

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The [British] National Archives (BNA) is an executive agency of the government of the United Kingdom. Based in Kew in southwest London, the BNA is the UK government’s official archive, containing 1,000 years of history from Domesday Book to the present, with records from parchment and paper scrolls to digital files and archived websites, including Foreign Office and Colonial Office correspondence and files. The collections held by the BNA can be searched using their online catalogue. Entrance to the Archives is free.

On April 18, 2012, the BNA released the first batch of thousands of “lost” colonial-era files believed to have been destroyed, including files on Britain’s former colony of Kenya. Reporters at the UK’s The Guardian were among the first who looked at some of the newly released colonial files. They found that the name of Barack Obama (henceforth, Obama Sr.), the father of the POS in the White House, is on the top of a list of names revealed in a hitherto secret British colonial file of Kenyans studying in the United States.

But it’s not just UK journalists who can access the British National Archives; anyone can. In May 2012, someone conducted a search of the Archives using the search term “Obama” and found that an unnamed son of Obama Sr. was born in Kenya in 1961. Since the POS in the White House is the only known son of Obama Sr. born after 1960 and before 1963 when Kenya became officially independent from the UK, it is reasonable for us to conclude that the POS is that unnamed son of Obama Sr. born in Kenya in 1961. And in fact, the claimed birth date of the POS is August 4, 1961.



Barack Hussein Obama Sr. (l); Stanley Ann Dunham (r). For a couple who supposedly married and had a child together, it is odd to say the least that there is not a single photo of Obama and Dunham together.
Below are excerpts from Dan Crosby’s on-site report from Kew for The Daily Pen, “Obama’s Kenya Birth Records Discovered in British National Archives,” July 18, 2012:

Evidence discovered shows British Protectorate of East Africa recorded Obama’s birth records before 1963 and sent returns of those events to Britain’s Public Records Office and the Kew branch of British National Archives. [...]

It now appears the worst fears of the U.S. Constitution’s framers were well founded as investigators working on behalf of the ongoing investigation into the Constitutional eligibility of Barack Obama have found yet another lead in a growing mountain of evidence within the public records section of the British National Archives indicating the occurrence of at least four vital events registered to the name of Barack Obama, taking place in the British Protectorate of East Africa (Kenya) between 1953 and 1963, including the birth of two sons before 1963.

Recall, investigative journalists working for Breitbart.com have already discovered biographical information published by Barack Obama’s literary agent in which he claimed he was born in Kenya. Prior to Obama’s ensconcement to the White House, many international stories also stated that Obama was Kenyan-born as did members of Kenya’s legislative assembly. Since then information on Obama’s ties has been curtailed by government officials as the Obama administration has coincidentally paid nearly $4 billion dollars for capital projects in Kenya.

Also, the presence of Obama’s mother, Ann Dunham, cannot be accounted for from February, 1961, the alleged month of her marriage to Obama, until three weeks after the birth of Obama II in August, 1961 when she allegedly applied for college courses at the University of Washington. Theories about her whereabouts have included that she participated in the Air Lift America project as an exchange student and traveled to Nairobi as one of many recent high school graduates (see AASF Report 1959-1961).

The record of birth of a second son prior to Kenyan independence is significant because biographical information about Obama’s family indicates Obama Sr. fathered only one other son prior to Obama II’s birth.

The books containing hand written line records of vital events attributed to Obama [Sr.] are contained in Series RG36 of the Family Records section in the Kew branch of the BNA. The hand written line records first discovered in 2009, indicate several events were registered to the name Barack Obama (appears to be handwritten and spelled “Burack” and “Biraq”) beginning in 1953 and include two births recorded in 1958 and 1960, a marriage license registration in 1954 and a birth in 1961. Barack Obama [Sr.] is said to have died in 1982 and had married at least once more in Kenya and had at least one more child in 1968, but no record of these were found in the BNA because, according to the Archives’ desk reference, the events occurred after Kenya achieved independence from British colonial rule in 1963.

To date, Barack Obama II is the only known alleged son of Obama Sr. born after 1960 and before the independence of Kenya became official in 1963.

A request for information from the BNA on the specification of birth information contained in the series of thousands of logs indicates that only vital events registered in Kenya’s Ministry of Health offices were recorded in the registration returns and were placed in the National Archives care before they reached 30 years old (the law was amended to 20 years after creation in 2010).

The line records do not specify the identity or names of the children, only gender. However, the line records are associated with index numbers of actual microfilm copies of certificates, licenses and registration applications filed in the archives. According to researchers, Obama [Sr.]’s line records were discovered in Series RG36, reference books. Not surprisingly, when researchers specifically requested access to the relevant microfilm for the Obama [Sr.] birth registrations, they were told that the records were currently held under an outdated “privileged access” status, meaning researchers were denied access under Chapter 52, Sections 3 and 5 of the British Public Records Act of 1958.

However, evidence shows these records were available for public access before August of 2009, the approximate date of arrival of Hillary Clinton in Great Britain during her trip to Africa that year.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documents/information-management/access-to-public-records.pdf

Several sources show that Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton made a sudden visit to the British Foreign and Commonwealth Office, the British agency which oversees Public Records Archives from colonial protectorates, to speak with the Chief Executive of the Archives in early August of 2009. African news agency expressed surprise at Clinton’s arrival since she did not announce her intentions of stopping in Great Britain before embarking on her two week trip to Africa.

For someone who wanted to remain in America, it’s difficult to imagine any reason why Barack Obama’s alleged father, Barack the elder, would omit the birth of an “anchor baby” son on an application to extend his visa, just days after the birth occurred, unless…

The American people were told by Barack Obama, unequivocally, that his father was a former goat herder from Kenya. However, INS documents filed in the very same month after Obama’s birth suggest the goat herding elder Obama didn’t “get the memo” that he was a daddy.

On August 31st, 1961, just weeks after Obama’s birth was allegedly registered in a regional office of the Hawaiian Health Department, Obama the elder neglected to name his newborn son on an application for extension of his temporary visa to stay in the U.S.

Obama’s omission of the birth is astonishing and illogical given the fact that the acknowledgement of the birth would have fortified Obama’s application for an extension. The INS has long been more willing to extend the visa of a foreign parent of children born in the U.S., especially when the other parent is an American citizen.

Despite the recent release of a documentary film “Dreams From My Real Father” presenting evidence that Barack Hussein Obama is not the biological father of the younger Obama, the elder Obama is the man named as the father on the digital image of Obama’s alleged 1961 “Certificate of Live Birth” which was posted to the internet by the administration in April of 2011. The document image has since been forensically examined by law enforcement investigators and determined to be a digitally fabricated forgery using Adobe software.

[...], in 2011, it was reported by The Daily Pen after an investigation of the State of Hawaii’s birth statistics collection protocols and vital records history that birth certificates are often amended after the birth while the original paper document is sealed under strict confidentiality rules when the identity of the father is either determined after birth or when the father named on the new version of the certificate has adopted or assumed paternal responsibility for the child.

In the latter case, the original birth record may not contain the biological father’s name because the mother does not provide it, or it may list paternity as “unknown”, but this version is kept confidential under HRS 571. [...] Therefore, the paternity of the child at the actual time of the birth is not disclosed while the new amended certificate is upheld as the original version displaying the name of the newly identified or adoptive father as indistinguishable if different from the biological father. This law is meant to protect the child from stigmas resulting from illegitimacy, rape, incest or adultery. Under these circumstances it is not possible to know the paternal status of a child at birth unless the original birth record is made accessible by authorized persons under Hawaiian law.

[...] If Obama [Sr.] is not the biological father, or if paternal information is listed on the original certificate as “unknown”, the state of Hawaii keeps this information secret until a court orders the documents to be released for discovery purposes in determining Obama’s eligibility. Thus far, courts have lacked courage to uphold the Constitution thereby propagating the greatest political fraud in American history. Judges are simply washing their hands of the issue by refusing to even consider actual evidence against Obama, denying citizens of justice and their Constitutional right to a redress of grievances, because they simply do not have the courage to face the legal crisis such a revelation would cause.

[...] Despite evidence indicating that Obama was simultaneously married to a woman in Kenya, it is suspected that he claimed to be married to Dunham in order to use the marriage as leverage to remain in the U.S. There is no evidence or testimony that Obama [Sr.] ever loved Dunham or that the two had ever been engaged. The two did not live together before or after being married and there were no letters, no ring, no announcement or, most importantly, no legal marriage registration with the State of Hawaii.

Despite a complete void of documented proof of the marriage, it appears Dunham was granted a statutory divorce from Obama in 1964. However, images posted of the court documents from the decree contain no original documented proof of a marriage or legal documents showing that Obama was the father of Dunham’s child. A review of the court documents shows that at least one document, perhaps an original birth certificate for baby Obama, was missing from the numbering sequence.

Being legitimately married to a U.S. citizen would be a benefit toward allowing a foreign spouse to remain the U.S. However, no marriage license application or public announcement has ever been found to indicate that Obama and Dunham were ever married or that Obama [Sr.] had even divorced his Kenyan wife prior to an alleged wedding with Dunham. This fact supports the contents of memos from college and INS officials who expressed doubts about the legitimacy of Obama’s relationship with Dunham, even questioning the motive of such a union between a teenage woman and a foreign student facing visa expiration just days after the birth of her child.

[...] Government officials in Hawaii, including Governor Neil Abercrombie, Lt. Governor Brian Schatz and former Hawaiian elections official, Tim Adams have all indicated that they could find no original record of Obama’s alleged birth in any hospital in Hawaii in the course of their duties to verify his eligibility. The absence of verifiable birth documentation was so apparent that Schatz, serving as the chairman of the Democrat Party of Hawaii in 2008, refused to certify that Obama was indeed constitutionally eligible to hold the office of presidentwhen he submitted the Official Certification of Nomination of Obama. Schatz deferred the responsibility to Nancy Pelosi and DNC, and then Chair of the Hawaiian Elections Commission, Kevin Cronin. Cronin resigned suddenly after controversy surrounding his decision began to strain his relationship with the commission.

[...] Liars and abettors in media and government, drudging on behalf of the Obama administration, have anchored their Alinsky-style ridicule of those questioning Obama’s eligibility in a delusion that he must be legitimate because his birth was announced in two Hawaiian newspapers.

[...] Hawaii has a long history of allocating foreign births to the mother’s claimed Hawaiian residence regardless of the actual location of the birth, which was in compliance with guidelines established by the National Center for Health Statistics in order to accurately attribute data from births with decadal Census figures. [...] The impact of population figures on the Hawaii’s economy and agency resources was very significant in 1961. The accuracy of the Census takes precedence over the accuracy and veracity of vital statistics in the U.S. [...]

According to Dan Crosby, the specific sources of information pertaining to births of Kenyan nationals under British jurisdiction can be researched in the following BNA files (Courtesy: British National Archives):

General Register Office
SERIES RG36
Registers and Returns of Births, Marriages and Deaths in the Protectorates etc of Africa and Asia
Legal status: Public Record(s)
Language: English
Creator names: General Register Office, 1836-1970
Covering Birth Registration dates: 1895-1965
Physical description: 15 volume(s)
Access conditions: Available in microform only
Held by: The National Archives, Kew
Scope and content: Notifications forwarded by officials responsible for civil registration under administrative ordinances in Nyasaland, Kenya, Somaliland, Uganda, Sudan, Palestine, Sarawak, Malaya, including Johore and Selangor, and British North Borneo, commencing at varying dates.
Publication note: Geoffrey Yeo ‘The British Overseas, A Guide to Records of Their Births, Baptisms, Marriages, Deaths and Burials Available in the United Kingdom’, London, 2nd edn, 1988.
Related material: Some earlier returns from the East African territories in the period during which they were under Foreign Office control are in the consular registers retained in the custody of the registrar general.
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http://gopthedailydose.com/2013/05/0...1961-in-kenya/

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/d...ic-records.pdf

Don't have time to comment yet or do the research but here are some working links.
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You get what you need in the first couple paragraphs. It's an interesting read and a wonderful eyebrow raiser. At this point I don't think our chicken shit government (who I dispose technically isn't chicken shit since they are all Muslim brotherhood) won't do a damn thing about the terrorist in the White House.
Actually, i got all i needed in that paragraph.
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Stupid fucking Slunt.
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The seriousness of the charges demand an investigation, but seriously,

WHAT DIFFERENCE WOULD IT MAKE!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
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Honestly, I don't care where he was born - he won fair and square, albeit by a slim margin of votes.
Nevertheless, why do you liberals fight so hard to suppress the investigations?
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Why do these "investigations" continue day after day?

Everybody and his Slunt sister has tried to make this stick since before Obama was elected. Wonder why they've continued to fail?

Dipshits, sore losers, hate mongers.

Get the fuck over it already.
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Honestly, I don't care where he was born - he won fair and square, albeit by a slim margin of votes.
Nevertheless, why do you liberals fight so hard to suppress the investigations?
Bush did not even win in 2000. They were never able to count the "dangling chads" in Florida accurately.
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Bush did not even win in 2000. They were never able to count the "dangling chads" in Florida accurately.
What do I care?
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Why do these "investigations" continue day after day?

Everybody and his Slunt sister has tried to make this stick since before Obama was elected. Wonder why they've continued to fail?

Dipshits, sore losers, hate mongers.

Get the fuck over it already.
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For a change. Another brilliant contribution from Muskogee. The idiot who pissed on the GOP!

You still riding the birther train, Brainiac? I hear it's an express to Benghazi!
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Well it was the Hillary camp that started the "birther" movement. Obama has not come up with the one and only birth certificate yet. Only a copy...actually three different copies. So which one is the real one? A, B, C, or none of the above? I went on line and looked up the documents. The biggest claim is that a forged document used to debunk the birther movement has now been traced back to a Obama backer. He created a document using a Australian birth certificate and made it look like a Kenyan birth certificate except is was not perfect. So it was created to throw doubt on the entire claim. I don't know if there is anything to this <<<<<<< (read this) but it does bring up several interesting questions that have never been adequately answered. Why are there no pictures of Ann Dunham and her "husband" Barack with little Barack? Why has it been impossible to trace the whereabouts of Ann Dunham during the nine months leading up to little Barry's birth. Why do we have repeated instances of Barry claiming to be an African student; Occidental College Application, testimony from a neighbor, his book jacket (on his first autobiography). I can't answer those questions and neither can Obama. Lots and lots of unanswered questions.
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Well it was the Hillary camp that started the "birther" movement. Obama has not come up with the one and only birth certificate yet. Only a copy...actually three different copies. So which one is the real one? A, B, C, or none of the above? I went on line and looked up the documents. The biggest claim is that a forged document used to debunk the birther movement has now been traced back to a Obama backer. He created a document using a Australian birth certificate and made it look like a Kenyan birth certificate except is was not perfect. So it was created to throw doubt on the entire claim. I don't know if there is anything to this <<<<<<< (read this) but it does bring up several interesting questions that have never been adequately answered. Why are there no pictures of Ann Dunham and her "husband" Barack with little Barack? Why has it been impossible to trace the whereabouts of Ann Dunham during the nine months leading up to little Barry's birth. Why do we have repeated instances of Barry claiming to be an African student; Occidental College Application, testimony from a neighbor, his book jacket (on his first autobiography). I can't answer those questions and neither can Obama. Lots and lots of unanswered questions.
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Yeah, this explains a lot. Reading this article reminded me of about a half dozen people in this forum.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...iracy-theories

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"For example, while it has been known for some time that people who believe in one conspiracy theory are also likely to believe in other conspiracy theories, we would expect contradictory conspiracy theories to be negatively correlated. Yet, this is not what psychologists Micheal Wood, Karen Douglas and Robbie Suton found in a recent study. Instead, the research team, based at the University of Kent in England, found that many participants believed in contradictory conspiracy theories. For example, the conspiracy-belief that Osama Bin Laden is still alive was positively correlated with the conspiracy-belief that he was already dead before the military raid took place. This makes little sense, logically: Bin Laden cannot be both dead and alive at the same time. An important conclusion that the authors draw from their analysis is that people don't tend to believe in a conspiracy theory because of the specifics, but rather because of higher-order beliefs that support conspiracy-like thinking more generally. A popular example of such higher-order beliefs is a severe “distrust of authority.” The authors go on to suggest that conspiracism is therefore not just about belief in an individual theory, but rather an ideological lens through which we view the world."
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Anybody come up yet with a legitimate Kenyan birth certificate?

OK, so we have a super left wing goat herder from Kenya and a free spirited, unconventional woman from the USA, neither of whom had a pot to piss in, who ran a multi-decade, international con game to take over the Presidency and destroy America. Deja Vu all over your Manchurian Candidate. Wow, those two are really smart! But, they're not as smart as Glenna and her baby sister, MopBoy Q. Corneyhole and their uncle gritsboy.

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Oh, we all know that American citizens are just a bunch of lazy, stupid sheep who would have been in chains years and years ago if it weren't for the true defenders of freedom like the above 3 plus Trendaway, Iffy, IBSyndrome, acp, seedy, nostones and the rest who generously share with us the true road map to liberty interspersed with all of the silly rants of their precursors. We could take the very best quality of each of them, roll them into one, perfect Teawipe Parrotriot and the resulting SuperWipe still wouldn't have what it takes to be elected dog catcher, much less be leadership timber for some national movement other than, on the best day, a bowel movement.
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