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Old 09-05-2022, 03:24 PM   #1
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Default Anyone Else Puke Their Guts Out During Joe Biden's Trump Rally?

I can't get over the fact that the Divider-In-Chief keeps warning us that so-called MAGA Republicans are a "threat to democracy" - while his dim-retard party is pouring money into the primary campaigns of the most pro-Trump candidates!

Sorry folks, that's just too nauseatingly cynical and duplicitous for me - and I've seen lots of political lies and dirty tricks over the years. If our 230+ year-old experiment in democracy should fail, this will be why.


Joe Biden Holds a Trump Rally

The President has become his foe’s polarizing mirror image.


By The Editorial Board
Sept. 2, 2022 6:32 pm ET


It’s been obvious for years that while Democrats claim to fear and loathe Donald Trump, they really can’t live without him. They need him around, they want him around, because they think he’s their ticket to remain in power.

Any doubt about that proposition vanished with President Biden’s Thursday night speech that had a single political purpose: Elevating Mr. Trump to the center of the fall campaign. Forget all the high-minded talk about saving democracy, which is hardly in danger in a midterm election in which Mr. Trump isn’t even on the ballot. Democrats want to pretend the former President is on the ballot to campaign against as the great Democratic foil.

The strategy is especially helpful for Mr. Biden, whose main (and perhaps only) utility to Democrats is as the man who defeated Mr. Trump. Without Mr. Trump to kick around, the unpopular 79-year-old President will likely be nudged, or perhaps elbowed, aside by younger Democrats in 2024. But if Mr. Trump runs again, Mr. Biden has a raison d’etre. As our columnist Holman Jenkins has argued, the two men are political co-dependents.

That’s why Mr. Biden has so pointedly goaded Mr. Trump and his followers with the “MAGA Republican” label. His escalating rhetoric is intended to smear the GOP as under Mr. Trump’s sway and “semi-fascist.” If voters believe the stakes in November are the future of democracy, the autumn debate will shift from inflation, rising crime and woke ideology. More Democrats might vote, and the party might hold Congress.

All of this is deeply cynical and divisive. It contradicts Mr. Biden’s pledge, during the 2020 campaign and in his inaugural address, that he would unite the country. He repeated that claim of “unity” on Thursday but by now it is a throwaway line.

His strategy is to out-Trump Trump by polarizing the electorate around the former President because he thinks a majority will come his way. Even as we write this, his own party is running ads in New Hampshire to support the most MAGA Republican in the GOP Senate primary. A group allied with Senate GOP leader Mitch McConnell is supporting the other main GOP candidate.

In his broadside, Mr. Biden is maligning half the country and the 70 million Americans who voted for Mr. Trump. He includes a line that “not every Republican, not even the majority of Republicans” are MAGA, but that too is a token gesture. He quickly moves on to say that “there is no question that the Republican Party today is dominated, driven, and intimidated by Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans and that is a threat to this country.”

Yet the people who really saved American democracy after the 2020 election and on Jan. 6 were Republicans:

• governors, secretaries of state and legislators who resisted Mr. Trump’s demand to change slates of electors to the Electoral College;

• judges appointed by Mr. Trump who followed the evidence and the law in assessing claims of election fraud;

• lawyers at the White House and Justice Department who refuted the claims of Mr. Trump’s clown-show legal team of Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell;

• and above all Mike Pence, the Vice President who followed the Constitution in rejecting Mr. Trump’s private and public pressure to stop the counting of electoral votes that certified Mr. Biden as the victor.

If Mr. Biden believed his saving democracy rhetoric, he’d include those Republicans as heroes of the cause. But he won’t because his democracy line is a political gambit. He has to smear most Republicans as would-be fascists to make swing voters believe none of them can be trusted with power.

It’s possible this will work for Democrats in November, especially if Mr. Trump keeps taking Mr. Biden’s bait. Mr. Trump did precisely that on Thursday night with a typically ad hominem rant in response to the speech, which is exactly what Democrats want.

But we wonder if the voters will be as gullible. They’ve been able to observe over the 20 months of the Biden Presidency that Democrats have their own authoritarian temptations and have acted on them when they can.

Mr. Biden forgives half-a-trillion dollars in student debt without the assent of Congress. White House aides collude with tech platforms to silence dissenting voices on Covid. His regulators stretch the law beyond previous understanding to impose more control over the private economy. And that’s before they get the votes to break the Senate filibuster, add new U.S. states, override 50 state voting laws, and pack the Supreme Court.

Mr. Biden has become his foe’s polarizing mirror image. It is exactly what he promised as a candidate he wouldn’t do.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/joe-bid...e-11662149768?
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Let me guess, You probably consider the JBS to be liberal
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Is that the best you got? Seriously?

Let me guess, you probably think anyone who won't address you by your preferred pronoun - COMRADE - must be a fascist.
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Good point. Democratic PAC's have spent about $45 million supporting pro Trump candidates in the primaries, against other Republicans who are stronger general election candidates. That would be bizarre if the Democrats and Biden truly believed MAGA Republicans were a threat to democracy.

When the workingman is falling farther and farther behind the eight ball because of inflation, the best strategy is to make Trump the center of attention. And Trump unfortunately is all too happy to cooperate.
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Old 09-05-2022, 10:23 PM   #5
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Good point. Democratic PAC's have spent about $45 million supporting pro Trump candidates in the primaries, against other Republicans who are stronger general election candidates. That would be bizarre if the Democrats and Biden truly believed MAGA Republicans were a threat to democracy.

When the workingman is falling farther and farther behind the eight ball because of inflation, the best strategy is to make Trump the center of attention. And Trump unfortunately is all too happy to cooperate.
That’s because he is as stupid as he is an asshole.

The Democrats are more than happy to let him sink his own ship and keep themselves in power.

Wise strategy.

Fuck that guy.
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Old 09-05-2022, 10:49 PM   #6
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The Democrats are more than happy to let him sink his own ship and keep themselves in power.
By stupidly screaming about him being a "threat to democracy" - while they hypocritically shower his favorite primary candidates with campaign spending?

It's incredibly cynical and nauseating, but is it even legal?

The real threat to our democracy comes from people who will resort to such utter duplicity in a desperate and delusional attempt to cling to power.
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Old 09-06-2022, 01:37 AM   #7
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MAGA idiots backed Trump. Trump stinks worse than a skunk so then you have to get the stink out of the big house. That person just has to not be Trump no matter what because you can't have dictator wannabes like Trump in power. That's not what this country is about. Trump, try as he may to change the rules of democracy has been unsuccessful for a reason. He picked the wrong country for his narcissistic bullshit.

Biden is just a four-year band aid. He's not worth getting worked up about. Everyone knows he was pretty much only elected because he is not Trump. I am sure few thought that electing a 76-year-old president was going to be a quick fix. Fortunately for Biden though, Trump is so overtly crooked and stupid that he actually makes Biden look better because anyone is better than that fat big mouth orange idiot.

In closing, MAGA clowns aren't a threat to Democracy. They are just a threat to overpopulate trailer parks and to produce too many banjo playing offspring.
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Old 09-06-2022, 02:17 AM   #8
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MAGA idiots backed Trump. Trump stinks worse than a skunk so then you have to get the stink out of the big house. That person just has to not be Trump no matter what because you can't have dictator wannabes like Trump in power. That's not what this country is about. Trump, try as he may to change the rules of democracy has been unsuccessful for a reason. He picked the wrong country for his narcissistic bullshit.

Biden is just a four-year band aid. He's not worth getting worked up about. Everyone knows he was pretty much only elected because he is not Trump. I am sure few thought that electing a 76-year-old president was going to be a quick fix. Fortunately for Biden though, Trump is so overtly crooked and stupid that he actually makes Biden look better because anyone is better than that fat big mouth orange idiot.

In closing, MAGA clowns aren't a threat to Democracy. They are just a threat to overpopulate trailer parks and to produce too many banjo playing offspring.
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That’s because he is as stupid as he is an asshole.

The Democrats are more than happy to let him sink his own ship and keep themselves in power.

Wise strategy.

Fuck that guy.

Republicans could simply not vote for the most shitty of candidates. What difference does it make if democrats financially prop those insurrectionists up in hopes they lose the general elections. Republicans have the choice to pick non-UltraMAGA candidates and if they cared about winning the likes of Oz and Walker wouldn’t even be possibilities. Moreover, they’d vote in primary candidates that could win general elections.

Republicans need to fix their own house rather than blame their issues on the democrats. Guess what, except in only a few states, we don’t get to pick the Republican candidate during primary voting. You want to win, pick and support better candidates. All this faux outrage is bullshit. But I wouldn’t really expect better from the Trumpist Party.

The McConnell republicans had an opportunity to rid themselves of Trump right after Jan 6 but they made a calculation that if they failed to convict him in impeachment they might hold the Senate (anyone with sense knows they rationale for the Mitches that he’s a former president so can’t be convicted was a bullshit out). They lost on both counts. Lost the senate because Trump still fucked them and then got stuck with an even worse Trump. Bad move Mitch.
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I can't get over the fact that the Divider-In-Chief keeps warning us that so-called MAGA Republicans are a "threat to democracy" - while his dim-retard party is pouring money into the primary campaigns of the most pro-Trump candidates!

Sorry folks, that's just too nauseatingly cynical and duplicitous for me - and I've seen lots of political lies and dirty tricks over the years. If our 230+ year-old experiment in democracy should fail, this will be why.


Joe Biden Holds a Trump Rally

The President has become his foe’s polarizing mirror image.


By The Editorial Board
Sept. 2, 2022 6:32 pm ET


It’s been obvious for years that while Democrats claim to fear and loathe Donald Trump, they really can’t live without him. They need him around, they want him around, because they think he’s their ticket to remain in power.

Any doubt about that proposition vanished with President Biden’s Thursday night speech that had a single political purpose: Elevating Mr. Trump to the center of the fall campaign. Forget all the high-minded talk about saving democracy, which is hardly in danger in a midterm election in which Mr. Trump isn’t even on the ballot. Democrats want to pretend the former President is on the ballot to campaign against as the great Democratic foil.

The strategy is especially helpful for Mr. Biden, whose main (and perhaps only) utility to Democrats is as the man who defeated Mr. Trump. Without Mr. Trump to kick around, the unpopular 79-year-old President will likely be nudged, or perhaps elbowed, aside by younger Democrats in 2024. But if Mr. Trump runs again, Mr. Biden has a raison d’etre. As our columnist Holman Jenkins has argued, the two men are political co-dependents.

That’s why Mr. Biden has so pointedly goaded Mr. Trump and his followers with the “MAGA Republican” label. His escalating rhetoric is intended to smear the GOP as under Mr. Trump’s sway and “semi-fascist.” If voters believe the stakes in November are the future of democracy, the autumn debate will shift from inflation, rising crime and woke ideology. More Democrats might vote, and the party might hold Congress.

All of this is deeply cynical and divisive. It contradicts Mr. Biden’s pledge, during the 2020 campaign and in his inaugural address, that he would unite the country. He repeated that claim of “unity” on Thursday but by now it is a throwaway line.

His strategy is to out-Trump Trump by polarizing the electorate around the former President because he thinks a majority will come his way. Even as we write this, his own party is running ads in New Hampshire to support the most MAGA Republican in the GOP Senate primary. A group allied with Senate GOP leader Mitch McConnell is supporting the other main GOP candidate.

In his broadside, Mr. Biden is maligning half the country and the 70 million Americans who voted for Mr. Trump. He includes a line that “not every Republican, not even the majority of Republicans” are MAGA, but that too is a token gesture. He quickly moves on to say that “there is no question that the Republican Party today is dominated, driven, and intimidated by Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans and that is a threat to this country.”

Yet the people who really saved American democracy after the 2020 election and on Jan. 6 were Republicans:

• governors, secretaries of state and legislators who resisted Mr. Trump’s demand to change slates of electors to the Electoral College;

• judges appointed by Mr. Trump who followed the evidence and the law in assessing claims of election fraud;

• lawyers at the White House and Justice Department who refuted the claims of Mr. Trump’s clown-show legal team of Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell;

• and above all Mike Pence, the Vice President who followed the Constitution in rejecting Mr. Trump’s private and public pressure to stop the counting of electoral votes that certified Mr. Biden as the victor.

If Mr. Biden believed his saving democracy rhetoric, he’d include those Republicans as heroes of the cause. But he won’t because his democracy line is a political gambit. He has to smear most Republicans as would-be fascists to make swing voters believe none of them can be trusted with power.

It’s possible this will work for Democrats in November, especially if Mr. Trump keeps taking Mr. Biden’s bait. Mr. Trump did precisely that on Thursday night with a typically ad hominem rant in response to the speech, which is exactly what Democrats want.

But we wonder if the voters will be as gullible. They’ve been able to observe over the 20 months of the Biden Presidency that Democrats have their own authoritarian temptations and have acted on them when they can.

Mr. Biden forgives half-a-trillion dollars in student debt without the assent of Congress. White House aides collude with tech platforms to silence dissenting voices on Covid. His regulators stretch the law beyond previous understanding to impose more control over the private economy. And that’s before they get the votes to break the Senate filibuster, add new U.S. states, override 50 state voting laws, and pack the Supreme Court.

Mr. Biden has become his foe’s polarizing mirror image. It is exactly what he promised as a candidate he wouldn’t do.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/joe-bid...e-11662149768?
So basically you're crying about Biden telling the truth?

Was he not as polite as you'd like?

I'd call that woke.

Are you one of those woke fucks?

You do realize that the point in politics is to win? You do not get to govern if you lose.

So you are now crying about Biden doing exactly the same thing Trump would do?

Billy Jack!
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What difference does it make if democrats financially prop those insurrectionists up in hopes they lose the general elections.
In 2020, for the first time in my life, I voted in a Democratic Primary. I voted for Joe Biden, even though I disliked him. Why? Because Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren scared me shitless. Joe Biden, President, wasn't going to cause me to leave the USA for greener pastures. The election of Sanders or Warren and a Senate and House controlled by like minded people would have me high tailing it out of here.

Now Donald Trump practically endorsed Bernie during primary season in 2016 and 2020. He was using the same logic as the Democratic PAC's that are supporting MAGA candidates. He figured he'd have an easier time beating Sanders than Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden.

He was playing with fire.

At the time I cast my vote in the 2020 election for Jo Jorgensen, the Libertarian, I would have preferred Trump to Biden, in particular from a policy perspective. Back then I would have laughed at what McCain wrote:

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Trump stinks worse than a skunk so then you have to get the stink out of the big house. That person just has to not be Trump no matter what because you can't have dictator wannabes like Trump in power. That's not what this country is about. Trump, try as he may to change the rules of democracy has been unsuccessful for a reason. He picked the wrong country for his narcissistic bullshit.
Maybe he exaggerates, but I'm not laughing now.

The Democratic PAC's running these ads are working against the best interests of our country.
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I’ll say again, republicans can elect non-superultraMAGAs. Democrats propping them
Up doesn’t change that at all.

Maybe true republicans should take their own advise. Help themselves. Pull themselves up by their bootstraps and get out there and change the minds within their own party rather than wanting Democrats to help save them.
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Fascists are socialists. So are Nazis and Progressives.
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biden scorches the fabric of the country

waving a torch of division

all for political purposes

and in a mid-term election no less

you ain't black unless you vote for him, and you ain't american unless you buy into leftism

its galling and brazen that he claims the mantle of americanism, and calls americans facists, while he does anything but lead with american values
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Says the man wearing a dress!
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biden scorches the fabric of the country

waving a torch of division

all for political purposes

and in a mid-term election no less

you ain't black unless you vote for him, and you ain't american unless you buy into leftism

its galling and brazen that he claims the mantle of americanism, and calls americans facists, while he does anything but lead with american values
No wonder Trump lost with this cry baby mentality.

You Trump lovers need to get up, dust yourselves off, blow your nose, wipe your eyes and asses and quit trying to blame Joe Biden for all your hurt little feelings!


Jesus...no wonder we're having to hire Mexicans....all the God damn Americans are whining on whore boards!
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