p411 reliable

[Sherry of DFW]

p411 seems to be the most reliable site-
1)-very seldom not working,
2) has the "OK" system where girl can approve of guys she has
met
3) p411 has the "available now" thread, where a guy can find a
girl who can meet with him immediately, or soon
4) p411 has none of the DRAMA that plagues oh2 or eccie

[LadyAnastasia]

I am a huge P411 fan but it's drama-free there because there is no message board.

[TinMan]

Yeah, the site is great, but limited. Still, I’d rather have a site that does a few things very well than one that fails the reliability test when trying to do too much.

[DallasRain]

I like the interview section the guys can fill out
It gives insight into what to expect from there as far as personality/likes & dislikes..therefore making playtimes even more fun!

[ntxguy]

At least p411 doesn’t have reviews. Seems too many ladies have full access to men’s only information on OH2 and ECCIE

[Grace Preston]

Originally Posted by ntxguy

At least p411 doesn’t have reviews. Seems too many ladies have full access to men’s only information on OH2 and ECCIE

That's a double edged sword-- we've also got more than one gent that likes to brag about having access to the ladies only areas. Its always important to remember that secured areas are never secured, no matter which side of the coin you are on.

[Wile E Coyote]

I love p411. Before the new laws and changes to Eccie, I used it sparingly. When the escalation of drama and providers I either reviewed or said I was interested in seeing getting messages from my haters on here (guys and providers who I never met), I started to just send those ladies who I was interested in my p411 info and the bullshit went away fast. If only I could share the messages that providers shared with me about how I am a dangerous hobbyist and by other dudes and providers who I have not even contacted to see or have seen for a session. Now I use p411 to see providers all the time.

Unlike making up lies and throwing out speculation and calling it fact, p411 has a profile that the ladies can look and see who a guy a seen (that are p411 providers anyway), how many OKs he has from those p411 providers and a profile he can fill out that allows providers to know what a guy prefers in a session he pays for.

An "OK" from a provider on p411 can be defined differently depending on who you ask, but the jist of it is, did the client respect you and your time and did he at least have the proper donation? if so, the OK is warranted. Sure, other providers can contact the providers a guy received an OK from, but if the OKs are old, it may not mean much for screening purposes but if there are multiple recent OKs (within 3 months or so), then that is a good indication the client is pretty much good to go.


P411 also has a great feature for guys to not only see if a provider looked up and viewed your profile so you can make sure only the providers you have messaged or allowed to view you profile are the only ones you can or they get in trouble, but also you can block certain providers from the ability to do so. I do not think providers are afforded that luxury of being able to block profile viewing from guys.

[Grace Preston]

Ladies can also block gentlemen from communicating with them. We cannot block gentlemen from viewing our profiles though unless we opt to go "UTR".



I do like P411 for the ease of screening, the ability to just message ladies that have given OK's to make sure they're a solid OK and not just a "soft" OK (We are required to give OK's as long as the client is not dangerous if the client has requested an ok) and for the fact that the gents have the ability to create a full profile of their preferences and preferred visit type.

[IMAPACKIN]

Originally Posted by Sherry of DFW

p411 seems to be the most reliable site-
1)-very seldom not working,
2) has the "OK" system where girl can approve of guys she has
met
3) p411 has the "available now" thread, where a guy can find a
girl who can meet with him immediately, or soon
4) p411 has none of the DRAMA that plagues oh2 or eccie

Canadian owned and operated, I believe. Mandating masks but permitting solicitation is just fine.

[KitKatt62]

Originally Posted by ntxguy

At least p411 doesn’t have reviews. Seems too many ladies have full access to men’s only information on OH2 and ECCIE

If you're so worried about that, wtf is being said that is so bad if we see? I think we should at least be able to see our own reviews in full. From the coed section alone it's obvious most of the men on here share a brain instead of having their own opinion anyway

[Wile E Coyote]

Originally Posted by KitKatt62

If you're so worried about that, wtf is being said that is so bad if we see? I think we should at least be able to see our own reviews in full. From the coed section alone it's obvious most of the men on here share a brain instead of having their own opinion anyway

If the powder room was not so secret, why can't a guy create a female handle and pay for access like a provider can the ML? It is not that bad things are being said, but the fact that intel on providers that guys prefer to keep amongst the guys but we all know it is not just the guys who have access, not to mention the firing of insults at other guys, most of the time off topic just to take shots at a guy who posted on topic on a thread, both of which are not allowed in coed forums, can be done. If you think Eccie and drama are related, you have not seen anything until you see the ML threads, aka the little boys room! You are right, most of the men share a brain or get told what to think/say and do not openly think for themselves, which is why those that have their own opinion are cast outs and belittled.

Giving providers access to even their own reviews is not good, unless you like drama. You already have enough info to know if a review is fake by just the posting of it from a handle you do not recognize or know. In an honest review, sometimes what is said in the review itself is going to be different than what is said in person to a provider. Reason being, he wants to be amenable and does not want the provider to go gossip about him to others. I know first hand that when you tell a provider to her face that the time spent was average or below, you get your handle bashed to the other providers by her. Maybe, one of these days, it will dawn on providers that just because a guy got off that is not a basis for her to get a good review, even tho she may get a "yes" recommendation. Seldom are "no" recommendation reviews written in order to appease providers that the paying client did not have an awesome time with to save the drama fallout, at least from the providers. Yet, in the ML, the guys may offer intel on their experience, be it BCD or TCB or both.

Now, to keep on topic of this thread so that I do not get points from a mod, since the sites that providers get to place ads are getting shut down and hacked, p411 (a place where providers can also place ads) is always going to be there as I am sure they have the protections in place to prevent that from happening and as the OP said, there is no drama.

[Brandofan]

Originally Posted by KitKatt62

If you're so worried about that, wtf is being said that is so bad if we see? I think we should at least be able to see our own reviews in full. From the coed section alone it's obvious most of the men on here share a brain instead of having their own opinion anyway

Reviewers are allowed to share the ROS with the provider if they want to. However allowing providers carte blanche access to private info will only result in spiteful retaliation beyond what already goes on whenever someone posts an unflattering review.

In the end one single bad review will be ignored by most as an outlier when the lady otherwise has a good reputation. So perhaps you should focus more on cultivating good relations and sessions with your other clientele.

[danicaItzyy]

I agree

[BBW Mamacita]

I definitely need to get on that site.