So... You don't like Louigi.... You obviously want to pay more for less right?

[Whispers]

I'll never understand when membership takes a dislike to fellow members that are correct in their assessments of things being handled incorrectly in the area. The board has guidelines for all to follow, MODs as well as members and that is all that Louigi brought to light.

When a handful of members are able to get together with a MOD and manipulate the board for their own personal gain IN THE LONG RUN it has a very negative affect on the community as a whole.

You had a few guys here that were hobbyists that evolved into Pimps and the pretense of Agencies.

They managed to recruit a few decent women and present you with economical pussy for a while.

Life was good right?

It always is for a while......

What develops over time?

They had already corrupted the market and the information being presented to you. They had created additional accounts and wrote fictitious reviews of ladies that equate to ads being presented to you under the guise of accurate reviews from fellow hobbyists.

They had a MOD in their camp that was looking the other way and not enforcing guidelines that are meant to keep the playing field level.

Using extra handles and their Pocket MOD, overtime, they are able to negatively affect the market in a variety of ways.

- When touring ladies announce they are coming to town they can book appointments that they never intend to keep, NCNS, and make it an unpleasant experience that leads to less frequent visits or shorter stays.

- they can just as easily write fictitious reviews of competing ladies to negatively affect their business.

- they can attack members writing reviews that are not complimentary of their girls and overtime create an environment that become hostile for newbies.

When you have a handful of guys running girls and a PocketMod that looks the other way they effectively end up controlling the market and your rates begin to creep up.

The end result is someone eventually crawls to the top of the heap, others fall to the wayside and greed wins. You end up with expensive pussy and limited quality and services.

I know....

I know......

Most of you think it's all just worst case scenario right?

It happened here in Austin. We had MODs in bed with providers and Agencies and a tremendous amount of censorship and manipulation of information presented.

Austin went from having a few decent agencies and a lot of high quality pussy at reasonable prices to the most expensive pussy in Texas, piss poor TCB by many and a stable of Old and BBW Whores that were able to run off a lot of quality indies.

We now have one Agency where the owner has dozens of shill accounts that he uses to write and bump reviews and he has, for the most part, captured the Agency Market in Austin on ECCIE.....

Pimps and Agencies are in place to CONTROL the girls as well as their market share. That CONTROL is put in place in a variety of ways and most are NOT conducive to the longevity or success of the ladies involved. Overtime.

One of our other "Agencies" is run by a guy that takes CONTROL to a higher level. Guys getting out of cars outside of incalls are photographed and their license plates recorded and that information is stored to be used to his advantage at a later date. He provides his girls with merchandise meant to keep them loyal to him, not everything being something we are allowed to discuss.

The end result is guys in the community end up at much higher risk in seeing the ladies being presented as a result of all the different issues swirling around them that the CONTROL in place creates.

Louigi did you all a favor and it's unfortunate that no one can really see it.

As a community, each and every one of you really relies on other members and together you can have everything you want for less if you simply network and share info.

There was not a single whore in any of those stables that was not a whore or a gal that wanted to whore when those guys posted up the accounts and presented them to you.

There are more just like them that will step up every week and try the Indy route.

You should rally around keeping the information presented to you honest and factual and put a little effort into sharing more. You should all stay hyper vigilant over where the information you are getting is originating as well as the actions your staff takes.....

Yes..... It was all such a peaceful, quiet little town here for a while right?

Check out the Houston forums sometime... They have a very active community where everything gets challenged and bullshit is stopped in it's tracks pretty damn quick....... People are not afraid to question staff and put them to test when they screw up...... Their forums lack politeness and courtesy that some of you seem to desire so much......

But that type of activity comes with something else..... They have the best pussy prices around and those prices stay in check and the scammers get weeded out pretty damn quick......

Y'all need MORE Optimizer/Louigi's. Not less..... You need a community of people not afraid to ask WTF when things are not right and you need to saddle up your staff and ride them when they become a part of the problem.

Your newest local MOD has already shown that he has the potential to be a problem of another sort. You can nip it in the bud up front or let him become the new King of South Texas.

Something new always develops in a vacuum like the one that has been created here. What are you going to let develop?

[Mr. Smith111]

I rarely even see hookers anymore, so none of this cut into my pocket, or the pussy I get.
I know a few of the guys you speak of , that became agencies. They kept pricing inline, and found a lot of talent that would not otherwise make it to Eccie .
I also know that these guys tried to follow the rules as presented, going clear back to Chica Chaser being involved, but what one mod said and another mod said were not always the same.

Louigi did not start all of this because he cares about the board and the future of it. He started all of this because of a personal problem and feeling excluded.

You make a lot of good points, but you haven't spent enough time in this area to fully get what all has transpired over the last several years.

BTW, most of us disliked Louigi long before any of this came up, for the same reasons that most people on this board have had issues with him.

I'm done talking about this, unless Louigi says something stupid again. ( OK, probably not done)

[Whispers]

I dislike Louigi as well. He's hard to like.

I do appreciate any member that tries to bring out examples of things being done incorrectly that can affect the information we get.

I also seldom see hookers. But when I want to I want to know that the information available here is not fabricated or slanted as a result of the impropriety of staff and a handful of people.

[dearhunter]

You get the forum you deserve.

[Bit_Banger]

Asking for politeness & courtesy does not prevent demanding honest & fair treatment from Mods and other members. One does not need to resort to name calling or childish pranks to express their opinion. As the old adage says,
You catch more flies with honey than vinegar.

[silvester91999]

And then the fuckin snow bird chimes in...
This is what we've become!

[Bit_Banger]

Originally Posted by silvester91999

And then the fuckin snow bird chimes in...
This is what we've become!

Yep, the "fuckin snow bird" from the frozen North where our coed discussion board has ladies chiming in on most threads because we haven't chased them all away with rough talk. I remember when our local board almost became a sausage fest, but we changed our ways and morphed the board into a place for polite conversation. Now we get to know the ladies. And they us. Makes for more friendly interaction both on the boards and BCD. Mods have a fairly light hand because for the most part we stay w/in the guidelines. I call that a win-win.

Try it some time. Your (collective) sex life might improve. ��

EDIT: I might point out that from what I've seen, at least in the RGV, a fair portion of the economy is snow birds.

[Guest032716]

I would say Whispers hit the nail on the head! There's not an agency that's left but of their own free will. Has it been because now their advantage over the indies no longer exists? I think not!

What puzzles me is I'm not sure how I felt excluded, except for the fact that I wasn't going to pay 3 Benjies for a $200 whore. Pure blind luck, I did glean one treasure from "Film's finds" though!

[Mr. Smith111]

Originally Posted by Bit_Banger

Yep, the "fuckin snow bird" from the frozen North where our coed discussion board has ladies chiming in on most threads because we haven't chased them all away with rough talk. I remember when our local board almost became a sausage fest, but we changed our ways and morphed the board into a place for polite conversation. Now we get to know the ladies. And they us. Makes for more friendly interaction both on the boards and BCD. Mods have a fairly light hand because for the most part we stay w/in the guidelines. I call that a win-win.

Try it some time. Your (collective) sex life might improve. ��

EDIT: I might point out that from what I've seen, at least in the RGV, a fair portion of the economy is snow birds.

All of your references to the way you all did things back home would hold more water if you ever had actually contributed back home. You had two posts prior to 12-29-15, and now you have become the self proclaimed expert on how to act on a hooker board.

[Mr. Smith111]

Originally Posted by Optimator

I would say Whispers hit the nail on the head! There's not an agency that's left but of their own free will. Has it been because now their advantage over the indies no longer exists? I think not!

What puzzles me is I'm not sure how I felt excluded, except for the fact that I wasn't going to pay 3 Benjies for a $200 whore. Pure blind luck, I did glean one treasure from "Film's finds" though!

The advantage over the indies was that the agency girls were better looking.

[mattholder]

Good stuff Smith and Silvestere. You guys should be our mods.

[Bit_Banger]

Originally Posted by Mr. Smith111

All of your references to the way you all did things back home would hold more water if you ever had actually contributed back home. You had two posts prior to 12-29-15, and now you have become the self proclaimed expert on how to act on a hooker board.

Unlike South Texas, we have had the luxury of several active, local boards. ECCIE is currently in the #2 slot after the Feds closed one. I was fairly active on that board from its inception 18 years ago, and on another local board which lasted about 5 yrs during the '00s. Another national board closed shop in Denver, but reopened after the recent WA bust. I was fairly active on the AZ section of that board last winter. I was also active on ASPD/Austin while wintering there in '08/09. On my home board I have nearly 1500 posts. (I've not named these boards because some boards are touchy about naming competitors in their forums.) So while I may have had only 2 posts on ECCIE when I started here in STX, I am hardly a stranger to escort boards and their dynamics.

But back to the dead horse of history:
1) There seems to be a group who felt that the old way of doing things was just fine. They had their sources of nookie under control.
2) There seems to be a group who felt left out of the nookie train and that the board was being run as a private club.
3) The PTB seemed to agree with the 2nd group, ousted the local warlord, and installed a new sheriff. This has ruffled the feathers of the 1st group.

Does that about sum things up?

I don't have a dog in the historical fight, but I would like to see polite discussions about the finer things in life, which IMHO include nookie. I'm more interested in the future; I don't really care who did what to whom last year. Get over it & get with the program. Instead of trying to sabotage the current administration, perhaps the first cliques angst would be better served if they went off and formed their own board. After a spell trying to herd cats and a few discussions with LE, they'll be more sympathetic with the current situation.

I did not take the Mods explaining how thing will be managed as a threat, but just as an explaintion of the changes. I have not seen a lot of BANNED members. Perhaps the recent departure of agencies is a result of verification enforcement (which protects us all!) and perhaps it is totally unrelated to this board. Over the years I've watched many agencies come and go.

As for the price of nookie? It will float as the market dictates.

[capitan1962]

[Mr. Smith111]

@ Bit banger, I enjoy the finer things and having polite conversations as well. People insist on bringing this up, so I comment on it.
I'm not starting threads about it, but I do disagree with much of the way this was handled.

When a pouty drunk continues to insult and post his ridiculous crap, I'm going to fire back.
I also do enjoy the hypocrisy in his posting.

I'm sure you have a long history on hooker boards, but hey, none of us know you.

[rjdiner]

You know it kills me that a couple of mongers from out of town are telling us what happened in our own forum. The fact is you guys know NOTHING about how this forum was run, how it evolved and it's painfully obvious that you have been fed a line of shit (probably from Louigi) on how bad off we were. Whispers, you are so far off assessing the situation here I can't even begin to tell you. As for the dickhead from
H Town and Louigi they are just too ignorant to respond to. Our new, small-minded Mod has done nothing but make matters worse. His hat size has expanded exponentially since he was given power and all you have to do is read the "Barney" interpretations to verify that. WTF?

We were fine (not perfect) until the little old drunk fucker got his panties in a wad and started his scorched earth policy to get even. In the process, we lost some great girls at a good price and I doubt they'll be back any time soon.

As for this board, It would be fine with me if this POS just goes up in flames. I don't need it and will probably never review a girl again on this site. Too bad, because most of you will never know how many times I got traveling girls to come visit here by giving them a "guarantee" of profitably so they would risk coming down here.

Bottom line: dickhead and whispers,Go back home and stay there.