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08-19-2012, 10:03 AM
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Article on Escort Rates
I was trying to figure out what rates to charge and everyone seemed across the board.. and the guys were cheap.. so I found this article.. a little old but helpful...
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/95698874/how...teyourrate.pdf
I think if we ladies stick together we can raise our rates. It is us who should set the rates not the clients. You cant go to walmart and negotiate now can you?
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08-19-2012, 02:40 PM
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It's always supply and demand. At Walmart if you find it cheaper they match it. Price fixing ain't gonna work so good luck with that. If you want higher prices give superior service.
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08-19-2012, 02:52 PM
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Rate structure for companions is something that can and probably WILL be debated until the end of time. What may be realistic to some may not be to others. But, at the end of the day, only YOU have the power to determine what you want your rates to be. It's not about ladies sticking together and raising our rates. It's about setting a standard for you and what you are comfortable making an doing what it takes to command the rates you've put in place.
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08-19-2012, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by KristylJayne
I was trying to figure out what rates to charge and everyone seemed across the board.. and the guys were cheap.. so I found this article.. a little old but helpful...
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/95698874/how...teyourrate.pdf
I think if we ladies stick together we can raise our rates. It is us who should set the rates not the clients. You cant go to walmart and negotiate now can you?
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Good luck with that. You set whatever inflated rate you want and let me know in six months how that's working out for you.
Never mind...I see you already did: http://swankyescorts.com/KristylJayne/marketplace/
You want 4 bills just to model? smdh
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08-19-2012, 02:59 PM
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Charge what you want it's your body & your choices
Do Not Ever Let A Client Tell You What You Should Charge, I mean seriously who are they to tell you what to do?
But, at the same time if your asking $$$ while at the quality inn & offer cbj /cfs most guys are going to pass. Needless to say they can see 3 BP Girls at that same rate for the same services.
Also, sadly to say it's going to be impossible to stick together & raise our rates. Clients come from all types of backgrounds and demographics just as providers do.
Some clients have average jobs, a family and a limited income so the $$ & $$$ girls are out of there league and budget so they go see the .8 - $.5 girls instead.
Other men have done well in life and can afford to treat themselves & splurge on a regular basis $$$$ + . Yet those clients expect a exceptional time 4 & 5 star hotels, Immaculate appearance .... You get the idea
And then there are the men who put a budget on pussy & refuse to spend over a set limit when seeing providers.
Also providers are going to charge whatever the hell they want. Whether a girl is charging $40 guys are going to go see her, hell maybe even 3 times a week. I see women with $$$$$$ hours and plenty of clients see her also.
What you need to do is figure out the right rate for the area, clientele, and services you offer build a reputation and get reviews. Once guys see your really worth it you shouldn't have problems with your rates
Just my 0.02
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08-19-2012, 03:09 PM
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You will always be worth more than what you are willing to settle for, never short change yourself and never settle for less.....ijs
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08-19-2012, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by KristylJayne
I was trying to figure out what rates to charge and everyone seemed across the board.. and the guys were cheap.. so I found this article.. a little old but helpful...
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/95698874/how...teyourrate.pdf
I think if we ladies stick together we can raise our rates. It is us who should set the rates not the clients. You cant go to walmart and negotiate now can you?
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Kristyl,
You can obviously do whatever you want to set your rates, but the reality is this article has roughly equal parts good advice and bad. The "formula" is great to give you an idea who much you would like to charge per appointment hour, but most workers in any business would like to make more than people are willing to pay them.
Whether a lady likes it or not rates are based upon many factors: looks, age, reputation, activities, the area, supply/demand, what other options the lady has, and what she wants out of this business. Among others.
You can deny as much of this as you want, but try to oversimplify and you may find yourself very underemployed.
This is not the first time a lady has suggested price fixing. I have never seen it work. Just like a guy trying to fix prices. This is about the closest free market business model I know, and one sided fixing doesn't work.
I really do hope you find the pricing structure that makes you successful. Having said that (and I an sincere about it) I do suspect this post has cost you a few appointments--largely from guys who believe they should set the prices.
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08-19-2012, 08:32 PM
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According to your site your almost 20 which is pretty young and I recall at that age I was pretty arrogant too, believing I owned the world and it revolved around me lol. Im going to guess here that you havent been in the biz that long. Also, your probably in demand since your young and very pretty--which by the way doesnt last forever so I suggest saving it or getting an education . However this old lady makes more than you do in your nude body rub and my panties never come off. How is it that I do? Marketing, intelligence, and connecting on many levels with my targeted client base. Its paying for my retirement real soon.
I suggest if you want to make more then take some college classes, become worldly, educated, and well spoken, and most importantly show some maturity. Guys like that in women believe it or not. The days of fuck and go are gone with all the gfe stuff now. Its become more interpersonal and for many men its filling a void in their lives. So if your a provider who isnt willing to learn a little about what men really want then I doubt you will really ever make what you think your worth. You will only get what you give in their eyes--which wont be much.
Learn how to talk to these guys instead of coming on here openly wanting to raise rates. Just an FYI...its not going to happen. There is no hooker front that runs the hobby. Its a dog eat dog world, and the minute you pal up with another provider and you team up with higher rates, one of ya will get desperate and undercut the other just to take a client away. Bottom line its money and who is getting more of it.
Thats just how it is, boy do you have a lot to learn sweetie. Good luck.
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08-19-2012, 09:19 PM
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I think it's just another look at me I'm "OMG Totally hot" girl that likes looking at herself. She thinks her value is all about her looks. She is an attractive girl like a thousand other ones out there. It's all about perception. It's all about service. It's not about I'm so hot you should be glad I let you look at me. To me that's a turn off. We see thousands of ads with that perception every week. The quiet attractive yet a little humble and very personable ones are the ones walking away with all the treasure. Like the lady above said. You have alot to learn
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08-19-2012, 09:22 PM
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According to your site your almost 20 which is pretty young and I recall at that age I was pretty arrogant too, believing I owned the world and it revolved around me lol. Im going to guess here that you havent been in the biz that long. Also, your probably in demand since your young and very pretty--which by the way doesnt last forever so I suggest saving it or getting an education . However this old lady makes more than you do in your nude body rub and my panties never come off. How is it that I do? Marketing, intelligence, and connecting on many levels with my targeted client base. Its paying for my retirement real soon.
I suggest if you want to make more then take some college classes, become worldly, educated, and well spoken, and most importantly show some maturity. Guys like that in women believe it or not. The days of fuck and go are gone with all the gfe stuff now. Its become more interpersonal and for many men its filling a void in their lives. So if your a provider who isnt willing to learn a little about what men really want then I doubt you will really ever make what you think your worth. You will only get what you give in their eyes--which wont be much.
Learn how to talk to these guys instead of coming on here openly wanting to raise rates. Just an FYI...its not going to happen. There is no hooker front that runs the hobby. Its a dog eat dog world, and the minute you pal up with another provider and you team up with higher rates, one of ya will get desperate and undercut the other just to take a client away. Bottom line its money and who is getting more of it.
Thats just how it is, boy do you have a lot to learn sweetie. Good luck.
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Brilliant post.
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08-19-2012, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by KristylJayne
I was trying to figure out what rates to charge and everyone seemed across the board.. and the guys were cheap.. so I found this article.. a little old but helpful...
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/95698874/how...teyourrate.pdf
I think if we ladies stick together we can raise our rates. It is us who should set the rates not the clients. You cant go to walmart and negotiate now can you?
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Create a union. Create a standards, work rules, and services charter.
Good Luck with that, all of the ladies are independent contractors. Independent contractors tend to be independently minded.
Or listen to the input of the experienced providers.
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08-19-2012, 09:43 PM
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Thanks Roger, just trying to give a little constructive criticism. She is a real pretty girl and seems to have a great personality. Shes just young and has a lot to learn about the world--and this one can be pretty cruel. We were all there(young and dumb) once. I still have no clue about men haha and learning more each day.
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08-19-2012, 10:12 PM
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So your business model is the same as Wal-Mart? Rates should be lowered than yes?
Maybe Wal-Mart wasn't the best example considering their prices are already typically lower and their target demographic is low income individuals. Pretty counter-productive with the point your trying to make.
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08-19-2012, 10:50 PM
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I have seen posts from guys trying to get everyone to refuse to pay rates they thought were to high so that providers would have to lower their rates. That will not work for them and the opposite from the providers perspective will not work. As has been pointed out this is a free market and there will be people at all levels.
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08-19-2012, 11:34 PM
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I think rates are a personal matter.
I don't think it's based on supply and demand, because even if there are 5 ladies in a given area, there is someone that's not getting any business, and there is one that's getting all the business. This is a luxury industry, and if you're the flavor of the day, then capitalize on it.
While I agree with Old-T that factors like looks, activities, ambiance, and attitude should be determining factors for your rates, intelligence, reputation, and having direction are factors for success.
Price, age and the area have nothing to do with success in this industry. Kymber has the right idea.
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As far as the article is concerned, I agree that basing your rates off the current norm in the area is not the smartest idea. Neither is working just to sustain yourself, so that formula can go to hell. That is a load of crap, especially in this industry. Like Old-T said, this is a free market. But when you talk about the business end of this industry, those that know better do better. Most ladies start in this arena in different ways, and most under the tutelage of a man that thinks about this business in a different way than it's supposed to be thought about.
And mostly, we think about the industry by way of what we believe is possible. And what's possible for one lady is not possible for every lady. And on the other side of that coin, some ladies are so limited in their thinking that they'll never know what's possible beyond what is currently happening for them.
Asking us to all raise our prices assumes that we all have the same work ethic, reputation, and understanding about the business. I'm going to say this again: raising rates should be an INDIVIDUAL BUSINESS DECISION based on your current growth. If you are getting too many LEGITIMATE requests at your current rate structure, a slight raise may lower the number of requests, or probably raise them depending on your current work ethic.
The threads about GPS trying to get girls to lower their rate only work on the ladies that don't know the truth... It's a novel idea Krystl, but this is an individual journey, and not everyone's experience is the same. When ladies raise their rates, it'll be on their own terms.
I applaud you for doing some reseach!
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