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05-29-2017, 12:21 PM
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GFE vs PSE - one man's opinion
Ok folks, every now and then this topic comes up. I originally posted this in the Men's Lounge then decided it might warrant discussion in the open forum. Keep in mind that some of this may come off a bit offensive, but I don't want to dilute the message too much.
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In response to questions raised by Road Lizard and PoolPass495 in a separate thread, I've decided to share my thoughts on PSE vs GFE. Keep in mind these are just one man's opinions and are worth about what you paid for them.
With that caveat, let's talk terms!
Commonality
BBBJ (because who wants a CBJ) should be available and first choice in both, gentleman's choice to cover.
There must be chemistry between the 2 (or more) parties. I've been with many VERY hot ladies but we didn't click so a blah time was had. That said, even a so-so orgasm is STILL an orgasm.
PSE
Porn star experience to me means an ass smackin', hair pullin', dirty talkin', face splattin' sweaty f*ck fest. CIM, COF, COB should be options. BBBJ is a requirement, Greek is not required but higher preference goes with it. Kissing may or may not be on the table, DATY should be gentleman's choice. DATO, face f*cking, DT, Russian, Italian and multiple positions, maybe some of which are a bit contrived, need to be on the table too. Well, at least some of those last ones - you can have a perfectly good PSE even if the lady can't DT the whole thingy. Orgasms should be loud lol! Your time together is all about the f*cking.
GFE
Girl friend experience to me means a cuddly, passionate, emotionally satisfying and gratifying intimate encounter. Kissing should be on the table and things should progress sort of 'softly' and naturally. BBBJ is a requirement here too, but CIM is optional and to me, any of the other CO* terms are starting to move out of GFE to PSE. DATY and other things should progress naturally... Think soft, sensual, loving here. Orgasms should be passionate and intimate. Your time together seems special and meaningful (even though we know the first rule of This Thing We Do: don't fall in love!)
Now, both of those describe what could be really cool encounters, and I have seen GFE providers, still will on occasion. I do prefer PSE but the best encounters in this man's opinion start out GFE and end full blown PSE, sort of the whole 'lady in streets, freak in the sheets' type of thing.
Like I said, that is just my opinion. There can be overlap between the two. You might find a great GFE that does Greek, for example, or maybe a PSE that doesn't CIM but is a freak otherwise.
Finally, maybe some of you have had GFs that sound more like a PS. That is awesome! Lucky you!
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06-02-2017, 04:55 PM
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The problem with these two terms is that if you put 10 people in a room and ask them what they mean, you get at least 12 different answers. Of all the acronyms we use, these are the most subjective. I've honestly got blinders that make me ignore them or assume they mean NOTHING because I bet it means something different to the person writing it than it does to me.
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06-02-2017, 11:00 PM
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Exactly. That's why I prefaced my post with 'just my opinion.' I normally stay away from such subjective topics but a) I was asked and b) discussion does help define what I mean by pse or gfe. So, when I'm scoping a lady or they are scoping me, we know what the terms mean and can say 'yep that is me' or 'well I'm more like that.' I guess or at least hope it will prevent future disappointments.
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06-03-2017, 09:35 AM
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I'm surprised there are not other comments. I know Tennessee EECIE is slow but there are a few of us that hang here and not over there. Since The Jones sisters and a few others retired or laying low there seem to be less ladies getting us to speak up. There have been more reviews lately which is good. I've been laying low for a long time due to health issues but I'm on the mend and about to act up a bit.
As CP said there are several descriptions for GFE vs PSE. I've always felt if both or all participants have fun and feel good about it, then call it what you want.
Thanks for posting your version. Always interesting to hear others perspectives.
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06-03-2017, 09:38 AM
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I just like to mix it all up into a twisted girlfriend experience
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06-04-2017, 04:41 PM
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Dallas, 'twisted' definitely describes our time together! But FUN for sure. When are you headed back to Nashville?
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I just like to mix it all up into a twisted girlfriend experience
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06-04-2017, 10:29 PM
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Sonoman, there was a comment or two as well over in the Men's Lounge, but I kind of thought Tennessee folks would weigh in more on this topic. I was in Nashville on the regular about 5 years ago, things have changed a lot in that time. Pheh, no bigs. I was asked, I shared.
Either experience is fun with me, though I do tend toward preferring more of a PSE than GFE these days. Still partake of both, tho. I will be happy to share names in either category privately, though I don't have some magic Rolodex o' Hot Ladies or anything lol!
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Originally Posted by Sonoman
I'm surprised there are not other comments. I know Tennessee EECIE is slow but there are a few of us that hang here and not over there. Since The Jones sisters and a few others retired or laying low there seem to be less ladies getting us to speak up. There have been more reviews lately which is good. I've been laying low for a long time due to health issues but I'm on the mend and about to act up a bit.
As CP said there are several descriptions for GFE vs PSE. I've always felt if both or all participants have fun and feel good about it, then call it what you want.
Thanks for posting your version. Always interesting to hear others perspectives.
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06-05-2017, 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by cylon
Sonoman, there was a comment or two as well over in the Men's Lounge, but I kind of thought Tennessee folks would weigh in more on this topic.
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Can't speak for others, but I'd kept my mouth shut here because 1) I think I've voiced what I consider "essential" to the GFE in other threads (TL;DR: passionate DFK, BBBJ (preferred but not completely essential), DATY with no protection (i.e., no dental dam) and the "illusion of passion" that I think is impossible adequately to describe, but I know it when I experience it; I don't do PSE, so I'm not sure I even know how to distinguish that from what I consider a GFE), and 2) I've been somewhat busy lately.
But yeah... Asking 10 random hobbyists for definitions of "GFE" (and probably of "PSE") is like asking 10 random Memphians to name the best BBQ in the city: you're going to get a minimum of 10 different answers. I'd rather reviewers give very detailed descriptions of their experience with any given provider in their reviews so that I can make an informed decision whether a lady provides a "GFE" based on my own expectations of what that experience is. That's been something I've tried to do in my own reviews, though I'll leave it to others to decide whether I've hit the target, only come close enough to scare it, or missed it by a mile.
Cheers,
bcg
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06-05-2017, 11:27 AM
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... I'd rather reviewers give very detailed descriptions of their experience with any given provider in their reviews so that I can make an informed decision whether a lady provides a "GFE" based on my own expectations of what that experience is. ...
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'Zackly!
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06-05-2017, 07:39 PM
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I enjoy opened minded men too.
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