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02-28-2013, 10:16 AM
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From The Mind of a Founding Father
Hi All,
Before I get beat up on the Board, let me issue this qualifier: The following doesn’t necessarily represent my views; I just offer fodder for discussion.
“It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong”.
-Thomas Jefferson
I didn’t write the following analysis. It was sent to me, and I just cleaned up format and grammar. I also removed opinion and conjecture.
Thomas Jefferson, among other things, studied the previous failed attempts at government. He was said to understand actual history, the nature of God, His laws, and the nature of man.
A voice from the long ago past seems relevant today, and may lead us into the future.
First a bit of chronological overview:
- At 5, began studying under his cousin's tutor
- At 9, studied Latin, Greek and French
- At 14, studied classical literature and additional languages
- At 16, entered William and Mary
- At 19, studied law for 5 years starting under George Wythe
- At 23, started his own law practice
- At 25, was elected to the Virginia House of Burgesses
- At 31, wrote the widely circulated "Summary View of the Rights of British America” and retired from his law practice
- At 32, was a delegate to the Second Continental Congress
- At 33, wrote the Declaration of Independence
- At 33, took three years to revise Virginia’s legal code and wrote a public education bill and a statute for religious freedom
- At 36, was elected the second Governor of Virginia, succeeding Patrick Henry
- At 40, served in Congress for two years
- At 41, was the American minister to France, and negotiated commercial treaties with European nations along with Benjamin Franklin and John Adams
- At 46, served as the first Secretary of State under George Washington
- At 53, served as Vice President and was elected president of the American Philosophical Society
- At 55, drafted the Kentucky Resolutions, and became the active head of the Republican Party
- At 57, was elected the third President of the United States
- At 60, was instrumental in the Louisiana Purchase, doubling the nation's size
- At 61, was elected to a second term as President
- At 65, retired to Monticello
- At 80, helped President Monroe shape the Monroe Doctrine
- At 81, almost single-handedly created the University of Virginia, and served as its first president
- At 83, died on the 50th anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Independence, along with John Adams
It may be said that Thomas Jefferson was a very remarkable man who began learning very early in life and never ceased to learn.
John F. Kennedy once held a dinner in the white House for a group of the brightest minds in the nation at that time. He made this statement: "This is perhaps the assembly of the most intelligence ever to gather at one time in the White House with the exception of when Thomas Jefferson dined alone”.
Some anecdotal evidence from the mind of Jefferson:
When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we shall become as corrupt as Europe.
The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.
It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. A principle, which if acted on, would save one-half the wars of the world
I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them
My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government
No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms
The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants
To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical
Thomas Jefferson stated in 1802: "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.
If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around these banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."
Sorry guys and gals for taxing your brains, but I’m off work today and extremely bored!
Please feel free to offer your opinions.
TD
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02-28-2013, 10:37 AM
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Probably the most brilliant man to ever be on this continent.
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02-28-2013, 11:07 AM
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Actually Jefferson was elected as a member of the Democratic-Republican party. The first elected President from the Republican Party was Lincoln.
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02-28-2013, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by oden
Actually Jefferson was elected as a member of the Democratic-Republican party. The first elected President from the Republican Party was Lincoln.
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Thank you for the clarification and pointing out my error, oden.
TD
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02-28-2013, 11:39 AM
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And by todays standards, he would be in the Teaparty.
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02-28-2013, 11:46 AM
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And by todays standards, he would be in the Teaparty.
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His buddy Sam Adams was in the Tea Party!
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02-28-2013, 12:24 PM
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I have heard and seen some of these remarks, and statements of Jefferson's before. I have also noticed not one fucking libtard, make a post on this thread trying to debunk these brilliant words, and thoughts. Goes against your way of thinking eh boys. Fucking assholes.
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02-28-2013, 12:36 PM
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Thomas Jefferson was a truly great man. He makes today's leaders seem like insects. There are a lot great quotes in your post; the one that seems most relevant at the moment, concerns the destruction of the economy being done by the Federal Reserve.
"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around these banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."
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02-28-2013, 04:24 PM
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Come on libtards, too busy with the cock in your mouths. This cocksucker of a communist president, does the exact oposite of all of Jeffersons words of wisdom. Can't deny it either can ya? I want to thank the op for his thread.
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02-28-2013, 06:02 PM
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Oddly, Jefferson was rejected by the TeaPuke Texas Board of Education. They recommended striking him from the history books as a leader in the Age of Enlightenment.
How do you explain that, Seedy?
I'm a Jefferson fan.
How do you explain that, fellas? Oh yeah, you can't love America and support Obama.
LMAO!!!
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02-28-2013, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
Oddly, Jefferson was rejected by the TeaPuke Texas Board of Education. They recommended striking him from the history books as a leader in the Age of Enlightenment.
How do you explain that, Seedy?
I'm a Jefferson fan.
How do you explain that, fellas? Oh yeah, you can't love America and support Obama.
LMAO!!!
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Bullshit. The best I can tell, The Texas Board of Education rejected the notion that the Constitution requires an absolute removal of religion from public life, no prayer in classrooms, no religious icons on public land, etc.
We are bound by the Constitution, not by a passage from a letter Jefferson wrote to the Danbury Baptist Church that referenced "a wall of seperation between church and state." The same week Jefferson wrote the letter referring to a wall of seperation between church and state, he attended church services in the Capital building.
Jefferson also wrote a treatise entitled "The Philosophy of Jesus of Nazareth" which he intended for the federal government to use in their attempt to convert the American Indians to Christianity.
http://www.dehavelle.com/2012/11/rus...ferson-darwin/
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02-28-2013, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by joe bloe
Bullshit. The best I can tell, The Texas Board of Education rejected the notion that the Constitution requires an absolute removal of religion from public life, no prayer in classrooms, no religious icons on public land, etc.
We are bound by the Constitution, not by a passage from a letter Jefferson wrote to the Danbury Baptist Church that referenced "a wall of seperation between church and state." The same week Jefferson wrote the letter referring to a wall of seperation between church and state, he attended church services in the Capital building.
Jefferson also wrote a treatise entitled "The Philosophy of Jesus of Nazareth" which he intended for the federal government to use in their attempt to convert the American Indians to Christianity.
http://www.dehavelle.com/2012/11/rus...ferson-darwin/
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That's not true. The best you can tell isn't enough.
In addition to Jefferson, the SBOE recommended striking Cesar Chavez from the books as well. Oh yeah, and adding creationism.
Lucky for our kids, the state slashed the budget for education, so the books haven't been printed yet.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/13/ed...exas.html?_r=0
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02-28-2013, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
Oddly, Jefferson was rejected by the TeaPuke Texas Board of Education. They recommended striking him from the history books as a leader in the Age of Enlightenment.
How do you explain that, Seedy?
I'm a Jefferson fan.
How do you explain that, fellas? Oh yeah, you can't love America and support Obama.
LMAO!!!
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More prevarication from Assup the jackass, the dissembling, turd-tongued golem made of piss and shit. Jefferson was not removed from the textbook, and Jefferson was a “student” of the Enlightenment: not a leader, per se.
"Jefferson and other members of the founding generation were deeply influenced by the 18th-century European intellectual movement known as the Enlightenment. Enlightenment philosophy stressed that liberty and equality were natural human rights."
http://www.monticello.org/slavery-at-monticello/liberty-slavery/jefferson-and-enlightenment
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02-28-2013, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by I B Hankering
More prevarication from Assup the jackass, the dissembling, turd-tongued golem made of piss and shit. Jefferson was not removed from the textbook, and Jefferson was a “student” of the Enlightenment: not a leader, per se.
"Jefferson and other members of the founding generation were deeply influenced by the 18th-century European intellectual movement known as the Enlightenment. Enlightenment philosophy stressed that liberty and equality were natural human rights."
http://www.monticello.org/slavery-at-monticello/liberty-slavery/jefferson-and-enlightenment
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OK. No wonder the SBOE tried to scratch him from the books, right? Only reason they didn't "downgrade him" as I said, was that they didn't have money for a new run. WTF you YOU know about then.texas SBOE anyway? You live in Schmuckville!
And Im getting real tired of your senseless bullshit. Keep it up and there'll be no DICK for you tonight!
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02-28-2013, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
OK. No wonder the SBOE tried to scratch him from the books, right? Only reason they didn't "downgrade him" as I said, was that they didn't have money for a new run. WTF you YOU know about then.texas SBOE anyway? You live in Schmuckville!
And Im getting real tired of your senseless bullshit. Keep it up and there'll be no DICK for you tonight!
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You better hope I never see you in a dark alley.
Watching you slurp cum is just gross...fucker
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