Check out what measures democrats will use to get their way.

[DEAR_JOHN]

What a fool. Idiot sets off fire alarm to stall congress then like the true liberal he is, tries to bullshit his way out of it. Even cnn slams him in the youtube video.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/squ...larm-open-door


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIUl4JXLOqo

[DEAR_JOHN]

Another lying democrat.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dem...lves-pay-raise

[NordicJag]

Seriously? To start with your thread title is inaccurate. An individual, who happens to be a Democrat is the guilty party. Both parties have individuals that do stupid stuff. Once again you have pinpointed the action of one individual and attempted to apply it to an entire group.

[Michael8219]

http://ny.chalkbeat.org/2019/6/18/21...ress?_amp=true

Bowman is the founder and former principal of the Cornerstone Academy for Social Action, a public middle school in Eastchester, Bronx. He is a member of the Lower Hudson Valley chapter of the Democratic Socialists of America.

Still think he acted by himself? And he used to instruct students and threaten expulsion if they pulled the fire alarm in a prank.

[DEAR_JOHN]

Originally Posted by NordicJag

Seriously? To start with your thread title is inaccurate. An individual, who happens to be a Democrat is the guilty party. Both parties have individuals that do stupid stuff. Once again you have pinpointed the action of one individual and attempted to apply it to an entire group.

Here, let me dumb it down for you, follow if you can. When Bowman pulled the fire alarm he was alone, there was nobody with him, and it was an attempt to benefit the democratic party. I didn't see the assholes of the 'squad' playing rock, paper, scissors to determine who pulls the alarm.

[GhostRiderYYZ]

Originally Posted by DEAR_JOHN

Here, let me dumb it down for you, follow if you can. When Bowman pulled the fire alarm he was alone, there was nobody with him, and it was an attempt to benefit the democratic party. I didn't see the assholes of the 'squad' playing rock, paper, scissors to determine who pulls the alarm.

But can you prove it was not discussed in a small group (or squad) prior to him walking over to the fire alarm that he allegedly pulled by mistake. Fire Alarms activation devices are designed so that you have to take 2 actions (lift the handle up then swing it down, or snap cover off then pull handle. Or the classic "Break glass before activating") No, he knew what he was doing, whether he acted on his own or after discussing it with his democratic friends is up in the air. I think he should be punished to the MAX because he is a LAW MAKER there fore cannot clam ignorance of the law. And it would set an example to others.. try some stupid stuff and you pay the max.

[arañanegra]

Originally Posted by NordicJag

Seriously? To start with your thread title is inaccurate. An individual, who happens to be a Democrat is the guilty party. Both parties have individuals that do stupid stuff. Once again you have pinpointed the action of one individual and attempted to apply it to an entire group.

Kind of how Trump gets blamed for everything. The Maga Republicans.

[Unique_Carpenter]

In DC, a false fire alarm can get you up to 6 months in jail.
Calif, up to a year. Texas, up to a year.

I come out of the hotel industry, we would always demand (and get) full prosecution for any of this crap at our facilities.

Nowadays, a good prosecutor can throw "terroristic threat" at the perp as well.

[Michael8219]

I think it was also a hate crime UC. They hate ‘Merica.

Hoo rah

[pxmcc]

i think he did it to give Dems time to read McCarthy's bill. how is that a crime? McCarthy should have acted earlier so Dems wouldn't need any shenanigans. who wants to vote on a bill that no one has had time to read? no one, and i cant say i blame the perp. he was in a bad spot with no good options, only those less bad or worse.

or maybe his story was true, that that door is usually open. how can you prove it wasn't? and you're gonna charge him when Matt Gaetz had an underage gal on a plane to the Caribbean, but gets off scot free? how is that supposed to be in any way just?

word is centrist Republicans are investigating Gaetz for wrongs requiring expulsion. i'm sure trafficking a minor is among the counts they are considering worthy of expulsion. godspeed to them; Gatz isn't a legislator, he's a spotlight-seeking troll..

[mynameismudd]

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) on health care reform legislation (2700+ pages): “We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it.”

[DEAR_JOHN]

Well good, we will have a new speaker. I thought McCarthy was about as useless as Paul Ryan. I hope the next speaker is a hard line republican who will shove it up the democrats ass and start shutting down some funding for different things such as Ukraine and the border. We finally have some power, maybe not much, let's use it to get this country back on track until an adult gets elected POTUS in 2024.

[NordicJag]

DJ, it takes 218 votes to elect a Speaker and they have 221 votes. If they go too far right there is no way that they will have less than 4 defections.

[pxmcc]

there's a reason McCarthy-actually two reasons-why McCarthy got zero Dem supporting votes: first, after having the correct response to Jan. 6, basically "Trump, wtf are you doing, please call off the dogs..", he did a complete 180 and bowed at Trump's altar at Mar-al-Lago; and second, impeaching Biden with zero evidence of wrongdoing by the president, which their own fact witnesses confirmed on Day 1 of their hearings; it was an embarassment.

so when Gaetz threw McCarthy overboard, House Dems said, basically, "good luck, and good riddance.."

what it looks like to the average voter is Repubs can't govern, instead they just brew drama among themselves.

when you have 1/3 of the law-making and law-enacting branches (including the president's right to veto), that is not the time to go to the far ends of the right or left wings of politics. if you nominate and get a Scalise through as Speaker, and he rams through far right policies, those bills will be quickly disposed of by the Democratic Senate, and won't accomplish much of anything.

so what do you do? you look for areas of consensus between the left and right. things like improving our military, countering China, figuring out how to rein in Medicare costs (not enrollee benefits though), producing a balanced budget through give and take policies, encouraging domestic manufacturing, etc.

that is what is the logical thing to do. will the House Republicans do that though? i wouldn't bet on it. but i don't see the current state of chaos in the Repub-led House being rewarded at the polls in 2024. to me it looks more like a circular firing squad which may end badly for the participants.

[Michael8219]

Correction: will the Dems AND Republicans look for consensus?

Unfortunately for us, probably not.