The 50% rule

[PleasantSurprise]

I'm in the shower fifteen minutes ago and I'm facing away from the shower head with a bar of soap in my left hand, and as the bar of soap is going up and down my butt crack, it hits me….

If a client were to offer a provider 50% of her rate, would it be acceptable for the provider to put forth 50% effort?

Pretend for a minute it normally takes a provider 2 hours to get ready for a date. For the client paying 50% of the rate, the provider cuts her prep time in half and only spends 50% of the usual time spent getting ready, in other words she stops getting ready after 1 hour.

That might mean she skips the shower, or it could mean she hops in but does a quick rinse instead of being thorough, it may mean mouth wash was used rather than the toothbrush, it could mean the main areas are shaved but there wasn't enough time for the armpits. It could mean she was running errands when you called and doesn't run home and grab the supplies she would ordinarily bring. Upon arrival she may be sweaty from rushing around, or she may look like she just stepped out of bed, she isn't as excited as she usually gets for a date, and she provides half of the services she would normally offer.

As a client, would you offer a provider 50% of her rate for 50% effort?

As a provider, if a client offered you half of your rate…. would you say sure, 50% for 50% seems fair?

[green_betta]

you get what you pay for...right?

[clusterlizard]

Lucky soap

[Helicopter206]

"That might mean she skips the shower, or it could mean she hops in but does a quick rinse instead of being thorough, it may mean mouth wash was used rather than the toothbrush, it could mean the main areas are shaved but there wasn't enough time for the armpits. It could mean she was running errands when you called and doesn't run home and grab the supplies she would ordinarily bring. Upon arrival she may be sweaty from rushing around, or she may look like she just stepped out of bed, she isn't as excited as she usually gets for a date, and she provides half of the services she would normally offer".

So would this ever happen from what you stated above. I would guess this might or has happen, if the provider was scheduling back to back clients. but also wanting the full payment, it's like walking into a messy hotel room. should the provider pick up the room before the client shows up.
I would think it's a first impression of how things will turn out. if the room is messy she doesn't care. I just don't like seeing used condom wrappers everywhere, maybe that's just me.
But sometimes the provider just isn't into having a good time, and the client feels rushed, or the provider plays the dead fish, or the menu as a large change in the program. so should there be a posted menu with a going price list and all providers follow it, that way the client isn't paying for something they don't want, or is not going to get.
All providers state the donation, it's for their time. but what happens during that time is what's in the ROS.

So my answer would be how did the meeting or session go. sometimes 50% would be a fair deal. from what I have read in some of the ROS. but then it seems like the client was cheap asking or taking some of his donation back. because a lot of providers want the donation up front. I found out why, because they were getting shorted by some clients. so in that case should the provider post that information on who was cheap or shorted them. I would have to say yes to that.

I don't think I missed it at all. if the session is rushed and she isn't into it, or it's not the person in the posted ad, then what do you think is fair. Some client's walk away, some go through with the meeting, then post the sad story.

So while we are all sitting thinking about this, but really we all are building a picture of your fine soft smooth ass all soaped up and wet...
there is your 100%

So CL and Max you guys have never been with a provider that wasn't into the session or just gave a lack luster effort. but you were glad you paid the full asking price...
Want to buy a use car I have some, I am only asking 5000 above the going book rate.

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[clusterlizard]

I think you missed the point, Copter. She's asking would you accept half the service for half the rate. Personally, the money is less important to me than the session.

[maxswell69]

Originally Posted by clusterlizard

I think you missed the point, Copter. She's asking would you accept half the service for half the rate. Personally, the money is less important to me than the session.

CL is absolutely, 100% correct!!!

[ElisabethWhispers]

You're an interesting woman!

For me, I never take two hours to get ready. Why is it that women take so long to get ready? I used to back in the day (early 20's/teens) but I can wash my hair, style it, etc., and be ready in 45 minutes, EASY.

Or ... a shower and a fluff of hair, just a teeny bit of makeup and I'm done. 20 minutes and I'm very nice and fresh.

But the whole 50% for 50% and I'm not sure if you're speaking of effort once the man has arrived or the effort to just get ready.

I sincerely believe that what ever price that you've set for an appointment, that you just HAVE to give it your all. Sometimes, there will be a situation happen where the chemistry just isn't there or the appointment isn't going as well as you would like.

While that happens, and it will when you least expect it, you have to be 100% to turn that situation around if you can.

You need to really be 110% when you're with someone because often, the money that these clients spend is a lot for them to spend. It's a special treat for them. They've often saved for the chance to see you.

This is my philosophy, only. But a few years back, when we could advertise 30 minute appointments on backpage (I used to refuse to do such short appts before) and I had changed up my business plan a bit, the 30 minute guys were thrilled with me.

Why? I treated them like the king that they were for that time. It didn't matter, nor does it matter now, that I was getting half of what I generally charge for an hour, which an hour was my preference. I never kicked them out of the door if they orgasm quickly. It's not the way that I roll, as the young ones state!

And it's saved me in terms of having great regulars that when times are slow, they're the ones that keep food on the table. They're my bread and butter.

It's too bad that backpage, which I like, has limited the characters so much in an ad and that we're unable to mention shorter appointments. Because once I got over my snobbishness about 30 minute appointments, I learned that I liked them a lot.

I don't accept low ball offers. I've been known to haggle, heck it's business and I would prefer to be the first person to say no if I need to, but once I've decided to see someone for less ... then I go for it with all of my heart.

Your premise is an interesting one. But I've been on the receiving end of getting a service and having it done half-assed. When I'm paying for a massage or getting my hair done, I'm spending some hard earned funds.

It doesn't matter to me if I'm paying a discount. They offered it. And I accepted. And that makes all of the difference to me.

And once, for kicks, I did hire a male escort. It was the most awful sexual experience that I've ever had. Well, let's just say that it was in the top 10. (Horrible story but funny. Maybe some day I'll share it!)

It sucks to have someone just not give a rat's butt when they're working on me or doing my hair ... or the facialist who last month,who didn't rub my shoulders for ten minutes when I had the mask on like she used to.

Bitch.

Very interesting topic! I do think that once you get an appointment, then it's probably best to go full throttle. Always.

Best,
Elisabeth

[JD Barleycorn]

Okay, that sounds fair but what if I was dissatisfied with the service provided after I paid full price, do I get some of my money back? What if the provider started her period in the middle of the session....is there a money back guarantee? What if a provider advertised full service but then said she had problems with her teeth and didn't want to go there? 50% off?

[MisterSir]

I'm very sorry, but I got so involved in imagining you in the shower I completely missed what you said. I'm sure it was intelligent, and stated in complete sentences, which just makes it hotter. I'll go back and read it.

Are you offering 50% off just to watch you take a shower? I might be able to go for that.

[MisterSir]

Just kidding, although if you sell a video of you taking a shower I'd be first in line.

From the hobbyist point of view you're talking about the value of service in our little closed economy. What is a provider worth? What elements make her service valuable? There are a lot of considerations here ranging from cultural (do white girls make more than black girls?) to aesthetics (are bigger boobs better?) to reputation (this site in fact) to actual skills.

ALL things for sale have an inflated volume, wherein profit is made. The provider must balance time spent as a resource (its limited) and operating expemses versus donation value. Cut it to close and she fails. Her price must be sustainable.

The hobbyist is looking to maximize his dollar and is going to fish to find it. This means lowball efforts wig a shot of getting lucky (on more level than one). Half is an aggressive lowball, but not realistic without other value added (half price and Ill fix your car maybe).

I'll point to my recent session with Ashley. I called and inquired, she said 150 and I withdrew as that was out of my range. She called me back and asked me to offer and I offered 80, which is what I had. If you read the review, she gave half the effort and I wish I had not spent any money.

In short, I want great service at a great price, I don't want 50% off for 50% effort.

[Johnny4455]

Originally Posted by clusterlizard

Lucky soap

Lol

[big country]

Originally Posted by Johnny4455

Lol

Would you rather have the option to say no to a reduced rate or hold out for your full rate? I am guessing your customer base would have alot to do with that.

[PleasantSurprise]

You guys are so funny.

I should add to the OP: 50/50 terms agreed upon in advance.

As the client you offer to pay half a rate, for an experience where the provider puts forth half the effort. Knowingly. Different from being unsatisfied after an experience and trying to figure out what to do from there.

I do think a client paying 100% should receive 100% and the provider should give it her all.
You give 100%, I give 100%.

But what about an upfront offer of 50%? Offering a "Half Ass" rate, agreed upon by both prior to the date.
You give 50%, I give 50%.

I consider a "Half Ass" like a…. "Take Me As I Am" rate.
Provider just drops what she's doing, drives to you, she showered 7 hours ago and the clothes she's wearing is what she'll be showing up in. If a client wants to shave off a few bucks, is it wrong for a provider to cut corners too?

[MisterSir]

How about 50% and we have our fun in the shower at my place? If that's on the table I'm sold.

[clusterlizard]

Nah. That's what the cheap escorts are for.