Chokehold Alternatives

[yitzchak]

So, after chokeholds are banned for use by police, what will be the alternative to subdue a perpetrator?

Will it be shooting, tasing, punching, kicking, clubbing, or should they sit back and do nothing at all?

Isn't a chokehold the safest way to subdue an aggressor?

If not, what is the alternative?

[Levianon17]

Sweep the leg.

[Jackie S]

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Isn't a chokehold the safest way to subdue an aggressor?
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Yes it is.......right up until the person being subdued dies.

[winn dixie]

Fuck'em. If they resist run or threaten an officer. The officer should have any/all of options to negate the threat!
I think if you run or physically threaten an officer they should have the right to shoot! Without any worry of the pc cult.

[yitzchak]

Yea, I just looked it up.

Apparently, a shat ton of ding dongs died by the chokehold.

That's surprising to me, because it's often advertised as a means of non-deadly force.

What's the alternative, though? Full nelson?

[winn dixie]

Originally Posted by yitzchak

Yea, I just looked it up.

Apparently, a shat ton of ding dongs died by the chokehold.

That's surprising to me, because it's often advertised as a means of non-deadly force.

What's the alternative, though? Full nelson?

Double freaking tap in the head

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by yitzchak

Yea, I just looked it up.

Apparently, a shat ton of ding dongs died by the chokehold.

That's surprising to me, because it's often advertised as a means of non-deadly force.

What's the alternative, though? Full nelson?

It's really not a chock hold but more commonly called a sleeper hold. If done properly pressure is applied to to carotid Artery causing a suspect to basically pass out rather than cutting off the airway. I've had it done to me you get a sensation of dizziness or vertigo before you pass out. Below is a video of the proper technique.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZRL5qwIiv8

[matchingmole]

Originally Posted by yitzchak

So, after chokeholds are banned for use by police, what will be the alternative to subdue a perpetrator?

Will it be shooting, tasing, punching, kicking, clubbing, or should they sit back and do nothing at all?

Isn't a chokehold the safest way to subdue an aggressor?

If not, what is the alternative?

Flushing the perp...........

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by matchingmole

Flushing the perp...........

what if flushing is not available?

what tricks do you have up your genius rectum?

[matchingmole]

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

what if flushing is not available?

what tricks do you have up your genius rectum?

Probably a picture of Trump and one of Obama in the front, lol.

[mike111]

Originally Posted by Levianon17

It's really not a chock hold but more commonly called a sleeper hold. If done properly pressure is applied to to carotid Artery causing a suspect to basically pass out rather than cutting off the airway. I've had it done to me you get a sensation of dizziness or vertigo before you pass out. Below is a video of the proper technique.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZRL5qwIiv8

It can be considered a chokehold. "Blood choke" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chok...20the%20brain. * disregard. You're right air is choke, blood is strangle. I only originally replied because the term 'sleeper hold ' sounded less scary than it is. Holds that restrict blood to the brain are super dangerous and will kill super easily.

[SecretE]

Originally Posted by mike111

It can be considered a chokehold. "Blood choke" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chok...20the%20brain.

A choke involves cutting off air flow. A blood "choke" is a misnomer, as it is really a strangle (cutting off blood flow). As a former judoka/jiu-jitsu player, I'll tell you both suck, but, given the choice, I'll take the strangle over the choke. A powerful enough choke can possibly crush your larynx (i.e. life-threatening medical emergency). A pure strangle-hold, you can easily regain consciousness from, if released soon enough and proper after-care is given. I will say that "knee-on-neck" position could easily cut off air and bloodflow. When I saw that video, I immediately winced. It's damn effective at control, but it is VERY dangerous.

[mike111]

Originally Posted by SecretE

A choke involves cutting off air flow. A blood "choke" is a misnomer, as it is really a strangle (cutting off blood flow). As a former judoka/jiu-jitsu player, I'll tell you both suck, but, given the choice, I'll take the strangle over the choke. A powerful enough choke can possibly crush your larynx (i.e. life-threatening medical emergency). A pure strangle-hold, you can easily regain consciousness from, if released soon enough and proper after-care is given. I will say that "knee-on-neck" position could easily cut off air and bloodflow. When I saw that video, I immediately winced. It's damn effective at control, but it is VERY dangerous.

Yes sir you beat me to it. I understood my mistake and was editing my post.

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by mike111

It can be considered a chokehold. "Blood choke" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chok...20the%20brain. * disregard. You're right air is choke, blood is strangle. I only originally replied because the term 'sleeper hold ' sounded less scary than it is. Holds that restrict blood to the brain are super dangerous and will kill super easily.

Yeah, there is quite a few things that can kill if done improperly or with the intentions of causing permanent harm. In the world of Self Defense you are taught to use just enough restraint to avoid causing death or permanent injury when possible. Ordinarily the sleeper hold demonstrated in the video is used to temporarily incapacitate a combative subject in order for a Police Officer to place him or her in restraints to affect an arrest.