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Originally Posted by Sabrababy
No screening = LE and jail.
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Screening = LE and jail, also.
I'm not posting this to argue Sabra, but I will tell you that without exception, LE will screen every time. They know exactly how to "backstop" their UC officers and they will have impeccable references, etc. - there is NOTHING you, I or anyone else for that matter can do to screen them out successfully every time. Nothing. They have the resources and the knowledge to defeat any process, and they have seen it all . . . You can follow your gut, but they'll beat you there too if they really want to - think about it, after all, LE teaches their UC officers to be social engineers, and they spend a great amount of money doing so . . .
I am NOT advising you to forgo screening, I am simply sharing with you simple facts. LE will pass any lady's screening, and they will do so 100% of the time, if they so desire.
As for LE screening clients when posing as an Escort - yes, they do. They know the procedures we take and to get the client comfortable to walk in to the appointment, they will feign a screening process during a sting where they have set up a female UC to answer the phones and lure in gentlemen. Sometimes they just say "come on over" - other times they will ask for references and say "Oh, I know her, I'll give her a call and call you right back . . . ". You mentioned above that you thought LE wouldn't screen if they were the bait. That is not the case.
There are risks, Sabra, in everything we do here. You can do whatever you decide for yourself to mitigate them, but know without question that LE will screen / verify past ANY system you put in place if they WANT to, at any time (as a client) and in the better stings where their female acts as the "provider" on the phone, they will feign screening too. Sabra, there are instances of UC LEOs having full sex with ladies and then making the arrest - a topic discussed recently in a national thread. And, their actions in doing so withstand judicial scrutiny.
P411 is not infallible, but Gina does a hell of a good job - better than Date-check, etc., and most any other screening service out there.
LE is and can be on any and all of these sites simultaneously, in fact, I am certain they post here regularly. I am certain they have P411 accounts lying in wait, I am certain they have ladies they can squeeze to "vouch" for their officers . . . None of this is "news". Although, I will say that I trust P411 more than ANY other method - as I said, Gina does one hell of a good job and with accounts backed with okays, as long as you follow the P411 rules to screen at the door, you're most likely golden . . . the problems with P411 arise when the ladies don't ask for ID at the door to match the P411 ID with the ID the gentleman carries or when the gentleman doesn't follow the P411 rules. A P411 ID gives you their first name, the date they were born (the day of the month) and a 4 digit sequential numerical string that should be on a piece of ID that would only be issued to them and accepted by a reasonable person as a legitimate tool to establish their identity to their ID - such as a a driver's license, a credit card with their name embossed into the face or another document that would be highly difficult to manufacture surreptitiously. If you are checking for that at the door with P411, 99% of your problems are solved if they have prior okays.
To think otherwise in any of these matters, quite frankly, is absolute folly. If they (LE) want you bad enough, they will pick you off - it is simply a matter of playing certain aspects of the game . . . correctly.
I could go on in depth about why you may be having a harder time getting your prospective clients to screen, but frankly, I doubt you'd listen to me - and I wouldn't detail the process in an open thread . . . My best advice would be: Stick with it, you'll get the hang of it, I'm sure. Keep in mind that if you're doing this right,
the LAST thing screening does is weed out LE - screening is absolutely for your safety, but it is not a reliable method to avoid prosecution - it never has been. It may be a tool in the arsenal, but LE will screen through anything any of us do - at any time they may desire. You screen to maintain your safety behind closed doors - you try to weed out LE . . . but you have to accept that none of us can stop LE from getting in, if they really want to.
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