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Old 02-18-2024, 06:25 AM   #1
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Default Are These Policies Good For America?

In what ways is the current administration's policy on Immigration good for America? How is the current unrestricted, unmonitored, unlimited influx of foreign nationals . . .by the millions . . .good for the Nation and its citizens?

Another question is related to crime. How are the current policies that release repeat offenders without bail a good thing? How are efforts to defund or otherwise reduce the efficacy of local police forces beneficial to the economic well being of our cities and the quality of life for those who live there?

There are other questions we could examine, but these will do for now. Please, lets confine the discussion to policy issues rather than the character flaws of those who promulgate the policies..
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Old 02-18-2024, 08:53 AM   #2
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The GOP in the house of reps voted down a bipartisan Senate immigration bill that would limit the number of immigrants coming over to 5,000 a day. This was a good compromise. Shame on them. Can't put the blame on Biden anymore now.
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Old 02-18-2024, 09:10 AM   #3
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The GOP in the house of reps voted down a bipartisan Senate immigration bill that would limit the number of immigrants coming over to 5,000 a day. This was a good compromise. Shame on them. Can't put the blame on Biden anymore now.
Under Trump, the number was zero. The remain in Mexico was working.

Illegal immigration is already against the law. The Biden Administration chooses to ignore these laws.

So what is the point in passing more laws for Biden to ignore.

During the first week of his Administration, Biden gleefully signed away the entire Trump policy of securing the Border and created the mess we have now.

Revising history to suite the Liberal Democrat agenda now seems to be the norm.
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Old 02-18-2024, 09:32 AM   #4
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Under Trump, the number was zero. The remain in Mexico was working.

Illegal immigration is already against the law. The Biden Administration chooses to ignore these laws.

So what is the point in passing more laws for Biden to ignore.

During the first week of his Administration, Biden gleefully signed away the entire Trump policy of securing the Border and created the mess we have now.

Revising history to suite the Liberal Democrat agenda now seems to be the norm.
Really?

That’s an exaggeration mixed with a heaping helping of bullshit.

Let’s see the stats.
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Old 02-18-2024, 09:55 AM   #5
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Under Trump, the number was zero. The remain in Mexico was working.

Illegal immigration is already against the law. The Biden Administration chooses to ignore these laws.

So what is the point in passing more laws for Biden to ignore.

During the first week of his Administration, Biden gleefully signed away the entire Trump policy of securing the Border and created the mess we have now.

Revising history to suite the Liberal Democrat agenda now seems to be the norm.
It wasn’t zero, but definitely smaller numbers. Thinking more like 500
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Old 02-18-2024, 09:57 AM   #6
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The GOP in the house of reps voted down a bipartisan Senate immigration bill that would limit the number of immigrants coming over to 5,000 a day. This was a good compromise. Shame on them. Can't put the blame on Biden anymore now.
That wasn’t a compromise, that was surrendering to idiotic current policies and putting them into law. Anyone in the Senate that voted yes should really be charged with treason
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Old 02-18-2024, 01:26 PM   #7
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It wasn’t zero, but definitely smaller numbers. Thinking more like 500
Gotta any support for that?
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Old 02-18-2024, 02:18 PM   #8
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You can't state the current immigration policy.

Your claim of unrestricted, unmonitored, and unlimited influx of foreign nationals is total bullshit. How can you compare policies if you don't know what the current policy is?

What are the exact differences between trump and Biden's immigration policies?
You already need to stop lying about the current policy. Too bad you don't know how to research real information. You've proven that you'll lie when you don't have to supply a link.

You won't even supply a trumpy type link.

The bill that came through the senate was bipartisan and submitted by a repub. It had been negotiated over for several months by both parties. trump doesn't want anything to help Biden to pass.
trump doesn't care about America, only himself. That has been obvious for years.

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In what ways is the current administration's policy on Immigration good for America? How is the current unrestricted, unmonitored, unlimited influx of foreign nationals . . .by the millions . . .good for the Nation and its citizens?

Another question is related to crime. How are the current policies that release repeat offenders without bail a good thing? How are efforts to defund or otherwise reduce the efficacy of local police forces beneficial to the economic well being of our cities and the quality of life for those who live there?

There are other questions we could examine, but these will do for now. Please, lets confine the discussion to policy issues rather than the character flaws of those who promulgate the policies..
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Old 02-18-2024, 03:22 PM   #9
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You can't state the current immigration policy.

Your claim of unrestricted, unmonitored, and unlimited influx of foreign nationals is total bullshit. How can you compare policies if you don't know what the current policy is?

What are the exact differences between trump and Biden's immigration policies?
You already need to stop lying about the current policy. Too bad you don't know how to research real information. You've proven that you'll lie when you don't have to supply a link.

You won't even supply a trumpy type link.

The bill that came through the senate was bipartisan and submitted by a repub. It had been negotiated over for several months by both parties. trump doesn't want anything to help Biden to pass.
trump doesn't care about America, only himself. That has been obvious for years.

You clearly don't know BS when you see it.
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Old 02-18-2024, 03:44 PM   #10
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We do every time we see your, Ace and ICU’s posts.
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Old 02-18-2024, 06:43 PM   #11
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We do every time we see your, Ace and ICU’s posts.

LOL, sure, I deal with salesman spouting BS and overselling things weekly. You guys aren’t even good snake oil salesman.
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Old 02-19-2024, 06:19 AM   #12
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Here are some numbers from the New York Times:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...n-numbers.html

A few other numbers"
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/22/u...cord-high.html

This link has a chart that looks like iyt came from a global warming study.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...ings-data.html

There are folks on the right who will dssy tyhat these reported numbers are lower than the actual numbers, but for now, these will do.
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Old 02-19-2024, 06:28 AM   #13
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And now, I will ask again for anyone to tell me why and how the current immigration situation, however you want to characterize it, is beneficial to the Nation and the American people.

The other question stands unaddressed as wel: How does reduced law enforcement in our cities benafit residents of those cities and the Nation as a whole?
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Old 02-19-2024, 07:20 AM   #14
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And now, I will ask again for anyone to tell me why and how the current immigration situation, however you want to characterize it, is beneficial to the Nation and the American people.

The other question stands unaddressed as wel: How does reduced law enforcement in our cities benafit residents of those cities and the Nation as a whole?
https://www.fwd.us/news/immigration-...f-immigration/

Adds trillions to the GDP.
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Old 02-19-2024, 07:59 AM   #15
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https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...ings-data.html

Did you even bother to read the article you posted?
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