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Old 08-08-2019, 05:12 PM   #1
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Default Andrew McCabe sues FBI over firing, alleges plot by Trump to oust those disloyal to the president

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...uoq?li=BBnbfcL


Andrew McCabe, the acting FBI director who authorized an investigation into President Trump for ties to Russia and possible obstruction of justice, filed a lawsuit against the bureau and the Justice Department on Wednesday, alleging he was illegally demoted and fired as part of a plot by Trump to remove those who were not politically loyal to him.

McCabe asked that a federal judge declare his termination a “legal nullity” and essentially allow him to retire from the FBI as planned, with all the benefits that would have afforded him. He was fired from the bureau in March 2018, a little more than 24 hours before McCabe was set to retire, costing him significant retirement benefits. The termination came after the Justice Department inspector general found that McCabe made an unauthorized disclosure to the media, then lied to investigators about it.


“It was Trump’s unconstitutional plan and scheme to discredit and remove DOJ and FBI employees who were deemed to be his partisan opponents because they were not politically loyal to him,” the lawsuit alleges, adding that McCabe’s firing “was a critical element of Trump’s plan and scheme.”

Justice Department and FBI spokeswomen declined to comment. White House officials did not immediately respond to a message seeking comment.
The inspector general referred McCabe’s case to the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Washington, D.C., which has been using a grand jury to determine if McCabe should also be charged criminally. McCabe has long asserted he did nothing wrong, and that his termination, ordered by then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions, was a politically motivated effort by Trump to undermine the FBI’s work. Trump had vigorously criticized McCabe even before he was removed from his post.
© Jahi Chikwendiu/The Washington Post Then-Acting FBI Director Andrew McCabe testifies at a Senate Intelligence holds a hearing in May 2017. The suit is the second this week by former FBI officials who say they were wrongly removed from their positions for political reasons.
On Tuesday, former FBI agent Peter Strzok, who also played a key role in the Russia probe, sued the Justice Department and FBI for reinstatement and back pay, arguing he was unfairly terminated for criticizing Trump. Strzok was found to have sent anti-Trump text messages, which FBI Deputy Director David Bowdich said called into question the bureau’s decisions in the Russia probe and the separate investigation of Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server while she was secretary of state.
McCabe’s lawsuit is notable for its forcefulness, alleging that Trump enlisted the highest-ranking members of the federal law enforcement apparatus in a scheme to stifle dissent. The suit singles out in particular Sessions and FBI Director Christopher A. Wray, who it claims “knowingly acted in furtherance of Trump’s plan and scheme, with knowledge that they were implementing Trump’s unconstitutional motivations for removing Plaintiff from the civil service.”
“Trump demanded Plaintiff’s personal allegiance, he sought retaliation when Plaintiff refused to give it, and Sessions, Wray, and others served as Trump’s personal enforcers rather than the nation’s highest law enforcement officials, catering to Trump’s unlawful whims instead of honoring their oaths to uphold the Constitution,” the lawsuit alleges.
Plaintiff refers to McCabe, who filed the suit.
After he was fired, McCabe wrote a book about his time in the FBI, which detailed his uncomfortable and unusual interactions with Trump and Sessions. He also raised more than $538,000 on a GoFundMe page set up for his legal defense.
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McCabe is darn lucky not to have been charged and indicted.
His suit is baseless and will be thrown out.

He is hitting the hornet nest with a stick - (figuratively- for DPST readers) - and just might stir up enough animosity to engender being charged and indicted.

Just a political Ruse by a disgruntled DPST hillary supporter.

Still has on the "Thong"!!
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Old 08-08-2019, 06:20 PM   #2
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so now two of them are lawyering up. and why not? they are spending the GoFundMe money, not theirs!!!
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Old 08-08-2019, 08:40 PM   #3
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Another example of Trump and the DTDS faction ruining someone's life. DTDS Nazi fascists
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Old 08-08-2019, 10:22 PM   #4
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If a motherfuck tried to ruin my life I would ruin theirs. I know you being a Liberal/Conservative & Capitalist/Socialist you always take the fork in the road that way you won't get lost.
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Old 08-09-2019, 04:54 AM   #5
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Another example of Trump and the DTDS faction ruining someone's life. DTDS Nazi fascists
So Trump ordered the duffus to file a lawsuit?

You really should rethink your opposition to Trump as POTUS ...

... look at all the "mind controlling" he does without saying a word ....

If you feel your own hands around your neck choking yourself ...

.... just remember: Trump made you do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 08-09-2019, 06:14 AM   #6
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I'm reading conjecture that both McCabe and Strzok filed lawsuits so that when AG Barr and IG Horowitz come out with their reports the plantiffs will be able to plead "ongoing lawsuits" instead of being subjected to the full brunt of bad publicity.
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Old 08-09-2019, 06:38 AM   #7
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I'm reading conjecture that both McCabe and Strzok filed lawsuits so that when AG Barr and IG Horowitz come out with their reports the plantiffs will be able to plead "ongoing lawsuits" instead of being subjected to the full brunt of bad publicity.
It's certainly a defensive maneuver on their part. They cannot believe they actually have a case to win.
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Old 08-09-2019, 06:40 AM   #8
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I'm reading conjecture that both McCabe and Strzok filed lawsuits so that when AG Barr and IG Horowitz come out with their reports the plantiffs will be able to plead "ongoing lawsuits" instead of being subjected to the full brunt of bad publicity.
An old conclusion of mine from "sailing days" is that when one throws slop overboard one must first know from where the wind is blowing.

Pursuing civil litigation in the midst of potential criminal litigation or actual pending criminal litigation is not a fruitful tactic. The "politics" of the civil litigation is different when one is a defendant in a civil case in the midst of the criminal activity than when one brings it upon themselves by starting the shit.

Generally speaking the civil court will honor the 5th amendment to protect their "constitutional rights" (ironic isn't that one who systematically violates others' civil rights seeks their protection subsequently), but will still sanction the party demanding their 5th amendment rights be intact by dismissing their case if they filed one or granting the plaintiff a judgment on the merits if they are defending one.

In the criminal case the prosecution cannot demand discovery (only disclosure of evidence to be admitted in the "case in chief" ... Federal rules) whereas in the civil case the parties are obligated to respond to discovery with substantive production of information and documents... as well as depositions.

Which brings up a motive for filing these suits .... to attempt to take the deposition of Trump and those involved in his administration or creating a spectacle for the 2020 elections. Please remember these are former LE officers asserting THEIR RIGHTS!!!!!!!!
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Old 08-09-2019, 07:18 AM   #9
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Didn’t Horowitz send criminal referrals to the DOJ on McCabe? Wray fired McCabe for cause.
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I just love how the LSM can't say He was fired for LYING
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Old 08-09-2019, 09:17 AM   #11
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I just love how the LSM can't say He was fired for LYING
It’s amazing how you can’t say Trump should be fired for the same thing.

Don’t love it.

Own it.
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Old 08-09-2019, 09:33 AM   #12
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It’s amazing how you can’t say Trump should be fired for the same thing.

Don’t love it.

Own it.
If that’s the case, he should share a cell with Obama. Own it.
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It’s amazing how you can’t say Trump should be fired for the same thing.

Don’t love it.

Own it.
Wow, how little ye understand of the governmental process. Andrew McCabe was an employee and subject to firing, Trump is an elected official and subject to be voted out in the next election or "impeached" if the lies merit it.

See the difference. Well no you probably don't.
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Old 08-09-2019, 10:58 AM   #14
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No - They don't
They think "Impeachment" will end the Trump Presidency.
They do not read, nor Know, nor have a care for , the Constitution of the US
typical DPST's
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No - They don't
They think "Impeachment" will end the Trump Presidency.
They do not read, nor Know, nor have a care for , the Constitution of the US
typical DPST's
President Pence.

No extraneous pussy grabbing.
No big business tax returns.
No Russian collusion.
No tweeting or golf.
No porn wife.

"Frying pan into the fire!"
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