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08-22-2012, 04:24 PM
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Are Mitt Romney's kids murders because they used in vitro fertilization?
Pray do tell us sinners wtf you pro lifers view this as.....
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08-22-2012, 04:48 PM
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That you're an idiot.
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08-22-2012, 04:59 PM
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It would be much more signficant question if WTF asked Why Does Obama Support Infanticide Legislation - the killing of babies that survive an abortion. Much bigger moral outrage than the Romney kids; on many levels...But most importantly, Obama voted as state legislator in favor of such an immoral law......and as President he makes public policy.
I think the Democrats should take WTF's que and headline this very question at the Democrats National Convention in Charlotte; give NOW, NARAL, PP prime time slots to make on the floor speechs in favor of abortion and killing and such. Afterall, their own Democratic Platform doesn't prohibit partial birth abortions, infanticide laws, and the like.....and the leader of their party voted in favor of infanticide.
Read the transcript of Obama's chilling words supporting the murder of a living child that survived an abortion here:
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner...rew-c-mccarthy
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08-22-2012, 05:07 PM
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You pro lifers seem to think that you can be partially preggo.
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That you're an idiot.
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That is a given.
Can you answer the question?
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It would be much more signficant question if WTF asked Why Does Obama Support Infanticide Legislation - the killing of babies that survive an abortion. Much bigger moral outrage than the Romney kids; on many levels...But most importantly, Obama voted as state legislator in favor of such an immoral law......and as President he makes public policy.
I think the Democrats should take WTF's que and headline this very question at the Democrats National Convention in Charlotte; give NOW, NARAL, PP prime time slots to make on the floor speechs in favor of abortion and killing and such. Afterall, their own Democratic Platform doesn't prohibit partial birth abortions, infanticide laws, and the like.....and the leader of their party voted in favor of infanticide.
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Bla Bla Bla,
Can you answer the question. Are Mitt's kids murders in your eyes? All Dems that get abortions seem to be murders, why not the Romney clan?
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08-22-2012, 05:10 PM
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I am more concerned about public policy and Obama's position on something that is so far outside the mainstream of morality that it makes Obama inhumane.
If you aren't aware of it..read about Obama and his monsterous infanticide position here.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner...rew-c-mccarthy
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08-22-2012, 05:21 PM
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Make up your mind...
One minute you call it murder, when pointed out that the Romney children have murdered babies by your standard....you then seem to want to change the subject.
btw, If anyone would like to understand the history behind this partial birth abortion distortion, follow the link below.
http://www.slate.com/articles/health...disabled_.html
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08-22-2012, 05:51 PM
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"At issue is Obama’s opposition to Illinois legislation in 2001, 2002 and 2003 that would have defined any aborted fetus that showed signs of life as a "born alive infant" entitled to legal protection, even if doctors believe it could not survive."
This is Illinois Bill SB 1082:
LRB093 10540 MKM 10794 b 1 AN ACT concerning infants who are born alive. 2 Be it enacted by the People of the State of Illinois, 3 represented in the General Assembly: 4 Section 5. The Statute on Statutes is amended by adding 5 Section 1.36 as follows: 6 (5 ILCS 70/1.36 new) 7 Sec. 1.36. Born-alive infant. 8 (a) In determining the meaning of any statute or of any 9 rule, regulation, or interpretation of the various 10 administrative agencies of this State, the words "person", 11 "human being", "child", and "individual" include every infant 12 member of the species homo sapiens who is born alive at any 13 stage of development. 14 (b) As used in this Section, the term "born alive", with 15 respect to a member of the species homo sapiens, means the 16 complete expulsion or extraction from its mother of that 17 member, at any stage of development, who after that expulsion 18 or extraction breathes or has a beating heart, pulsation of 19 the umbilical cord, or definite movement of voluntary 20 muscles, regardless of whether the umbilical cord has been 21 cut and regardless of whether the expulsion or extraction 22 occurs as a result of natural or induced labor, cesarean 23 section, or induced abortion. 24 (c) A live child born as a result of an abortion shall 25 be fully recognized as a human person and accorded immediate 26 protection under the law.27 Section 99. Effective date. This Act takes effect upon 28 becoming law.
Odumbo hypocritically voted against this bill which met every precondition he set. He voted against protecting the life of a 'living' infant.
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08-22-2012, 06:03 PM
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"At issue is Obama’s opposition to Illinois legislation in 2001, 2002 and 2003 that would have defined any aborted fetus that showed signs of life as a "born alive infant" entitled to legal protection, even if doctors believe it could not survive."
This is Illinois Bill SB 1082:
LRB093 10540 MKM 10794 b 1 AN ACT concerning infants who are born alive. 2 Be it enacted by the People of the State of Illinois, 3 represented in the General Assembly: 4 Section 5. The Statute on Statutes is amended by adding 5 Section 1.36 as follows: 6 (5 ILCS 70/1.36 new) 7 Sec. 1.36. Born-alive infant. 8 (a) In determining the meaning of any statute or of any 9 rule, regulation, or interpretation of the various 10 administrative agencies of this State, the words "person", 11 "human being", "child", and "individual" include every infant 12 member of the species homo sapiens who is born alive at any 13 stage of development. 14 (b) As used in this Section, the term "born alive", with 15 respect to a member of the species homo sapiens, means the 16 complete expulsion or extraction from its mother of that 17 member, at any stage of development, who after that expulsion 18 or extraction breathes or has a beating heart, pulsation of 19 the umbilical cord, or definite movement of voluntary 20 muscles, regardless of whether the umbilical cord has been 21 cut and regardless of whether the expulsion or extraction 22 occurs as a result of natural or induced labor, cesarean 23 section, or induced abortion. 24 (c) A live child born as a result of an abortion shall 25 be fully recognized as a human person and accorded immediate 26 protection under the law.27 Section 99. Effective date. This Act takes effect upon 28 becoming law.
Odumbo hypocritically voted against this bill which met every precondition he set. He voted against protecting the life of a 'living' infant.
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That is all fine and dandy but it does not answer my question.
Are Mitt's kids murders in your eyes?
Why or Why not?
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08-22-2012, 06:13 PM
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WTF, who paid you to post this crazy thread? Just when I think I've seen it all.
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08-22-2012, 06:44 PM
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Have you asked Romney what he thinks about it?
Was he for it before he was against it or was he against it before he was for it.
Do you have knowledge of how many eggs were fertilized and how many were or were not viable?
or is this just a fishing expedition.
What does the law say.
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08-22-2012, 07:00 PM
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WTF, who paid you to post this crazy thread? Just when I think I've seen it all.
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I'm Mitt Romney and I approve this message...
...tomorrow I may not.
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08-22-2012, 07:25 PM
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Is iit becoming more apparent why these Pro Life people do not want to talk about this issue? Most are for it! Even though they object to the exact same thing happening with say the Morning after pill.
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Have you asked Romney what he thinks about it?
Was he for it before he was against it or was he against it before he was for it.
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He told me he was for it until he found out people were against it. Now he is not sure...
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Do you have knowledge of how many eggs were fertilized and how many were or were not viable?
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That information is locked up along with Mitt's tax returns.
But we do know that :
Embryo culture
Typically, embryos are cultured until having reached the 6–8 cell stage three days after retrieval. In many Canadian, American and Australian programmes[ citation needed], however, embryos are placed into an extended culture system with a transfer done at the blastocyst stage at around five days after retrieval, especially if many good-quality embryos are still available on day 3. Blastocyst stage transfers have been shown to result in higher pregnancy rates. [9] In Europe, transfers after 2 days are common.
Embryo transfer
The embryos judged to be the "best" are transferred to the patient's uterus through a thin, plastic catheter, which goes through her vagina and cervix. Several embryos may be passed into the uterus to improve chances of implantation and pregnancy.
embryos judged to be the "best" are transferred to the patient's uterus
What do you think that means 2Dogs? Does it mean that there are more than one embryo? That they select the best one(s). It appears that Whirly is very selective when he throws around the murder word.
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or is this just a fishing expedition.
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Hillbilly Embryo fishing!
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What does the law say.
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I was asking because Whirly thinks it is murder. Well he thinks it is murder if a woman that votes for Obama has this procedure but apparently he is not concerned if Mitt's children commit that same murder. The law says it is not murder but the GOP platform calls for it to be murder.
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08-22-2012, 07:53 PM
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I'm Mitt Romney and I approve this message...
...tomorrow I may not. ![Mfr Lol](https://cdn-w.eccie.net/images/smilies/modern/mfr_lol.gif)
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Fanatic, lol,
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08-23-2012, 06:18 AM
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JD, Whirly, 2Dogs, joe blows....where are you at on this simple question. If life starts at conception, how do you feel about in vitro fertilization.
Is it murder in your eyes.
Or are you as I suspect , very selective in your views?
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08-23-2012, 07:51 AM
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WTF: Are you with Obama on killing babies that survive abortion procedures ?
WTF: Why does the Democratic Party Platform support infantcide legislation ?
Enquiring minds want to know..................
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