Sugar Daddy/ Sugar Baby Dating

[TGBeldin]

Too bad this thread has drifted off the topic somewhat. I found the first few pages interesting. I have a SB who I first saw when she was escorting. Neither of us knew there were hard and fast "rules" for what a SB or SD does so we felt our way, literally and figuratively. I find some of the opinions here describe our arrangement while others do not.

Anyone here play pinochle? I enjoy the game and have played it all across the world. Every local has local variants of the rules. I learned very quickly that I needed to clarify the house rules every time I sat down at the table, even though I had a copy of Hoyle with me. But whatever the local rules, the game was essentially the same.

So I see it with a SB/SD relationship. I provide her an allowance, I bought her a car when her old one died, I have opened doors and do other things to assist with her career. In exchange she does things for me. Clocks and fees are never a consideration, nor are X meetings a week or month. What we do on a given meeting depends only on what we decide to do. We talk a few times a week or more. She will text me and ask my opinion on whether the blue blouse or the red one looks better. I will call her when I need someone to talk me out of strangling someone at work. We are some mix of friends, lovers, benefactor, protege, and likely a few more things. We travel often as I enjoy taking her with me on business trips when her schedule allows. We spend plenty of time together, but when we are apart we have our own lives. The arrangement has been mutually beneficial for over eight years and changes all the time. Part of the time she was escorting, part of the time she was a full time student, and now she has a career she is developing. What she did away from me did not impact what we did when we were together, other than it influenced the topics we might talk about. The time she was a full time student was more trying on our relationship much more than when she was escorting because she put so much time into her studies. I find it humorous that some of the people who expect a SB to be exclusive are themselves not.

When someone can show me the agreed upon binding definition of a SB or SD I might feel differently, but until then I am of the mind that each such arrangement is largely what the two people decide works for them. Or if the "official" decision becomes too onerous I'll just go back to calling her my mistress. People never seemed so fixated with defining that term.

[TGBeldin]

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[Guest030824]

The way I see it we are comparing apples and oranges. A mistress is a woman that is supported by a man and they are exclusive to each other. A sugar baby on the other hand is a woman that you find to be a friend that you fuck and have fun with. Neither of you are exclusive with each other.
The rules(understanding) between the two are for the most part not written down but just a loose agreement. Even the term SB is mostly a joke between the two of them. When you reach the point that you know the woman's RL name and family back ground you are becoming SB and SD.
Just my thoughts on the subject.

[Old-T]

TGB, Tucson, put the nomenclature behind, I think you are both saying similar things. While I have a lady who I believe others might describe as my SB, she and I never use that terminology. We don't need to--we are comfortable in our relationship by whatever name.

[Guest030824]

With the lady I have in mind it has become a joke. I purchased her a dress for a social we were going to and while standing in line at the store some woman asked if she were my daughter. My snarky reply was "no she is my sugar baby". The clerk had to turn away because she was laughing so hard.

[theotherguy1]

I have been attempting to find a Sugar baby without any luck. I have the financial ability to take care of a sugar baby and it is not that I am going to put a large demand on someone. Sometimes when you put on a little age the only thing that you have remaining is a lot of zeros after your bank account. I would love to have someone that I could spoil financially and that I could mentor into becoming financially successful. The only offers I have had are from individuals that I would pay to stay away from me.

[Guest030824]

Make a decision early on about what you want. I always look for a woman I would be happy to have on my arm in a public venue. One that can converse in proper English and has a sense of humor. I am the guy that can laugh at al most any thing. It is a put off when I say some thing and it goes completely over their head.
For example the lady I have in mind, she and I can have fun just eating cold food after a hot session in bed. If you are from Texas you will know who Gib Lewis is. Alaine and I dined together with him at a political function last year. Alaine is elegant and some one that you can proudly introduce as your date for the evening.
The things you don't want is a sleeve of tattoos or unrealistic tits. I am not rich so I could never afford to support a woman as a mistress but some help every once in a while is some thing I can manage.
Let me/us know how it turns out for you.

[theotherguy1]

I can afford a mistress, but I don’t know how to get one, we all have our limitation. One of my positive qualities is that I know my limitations. In my business life I hire professionals to fulfill those requirements. I don’t know what I am looking for but I know that the women I am attractive to would not be comfortable in public with me, unless they call me daddy.

[Sidewinder]

Dude, there's an entire section elsewhere on ECCIE that deals SOLELY with SD/SB stuff.

Go find it and read the stickies at the top.

[Whispers]

Originally Posted by Ninotsugi

Old -T... please clarify where I indicated that a Provider would be uneducated I have a Bio on this site,
by your last paragraph I'm unclear on weather your disagreeing with me or not.

You might consider some refresher training as your education is not being displayed in the most flattering manner.

Siberia... at the extremely reasonable rate of $100/hr,
I'm positive you would make someone a wonderful Sugar Baby!

If there is an "hourly rate" involved a man has a whore on his elbow. Dress her up and teach her to say flowery things but she remains a whore. Hourly rates are not something that exists in a SD/SB relationship....

Originally Posted by siberia

For a mere massage that is generous, not gfe. Obviously you can't read very well.
Btw, mentioning prices in a public forum is against the rules & off topic.
Acting like a pimp to advertise my massage in the national thread helped you accomplish what exactly? Thanks for promoting me.
Education is useless if you don't use it.

methinks the teacher has been schooled......

[Whispers]

Originally Posted by tucson

The way I see it we are comparing apples and oranges. A mistress is a woman that is supported by a man and they are exclusive to each other. A sugar baby on the other hand is a woman that you find to be a friend that you fuck and have fun with. Neither of you are exclusive with each other.

Exclusivity tends to exist in most SD/SB relationships on one side. Not necessarily the other. Most of the girls I chose to be involved with over the years had full school schedules or a were single mothers making end meet that had no additional time in their lives to have other relationships. Fair? Probably not but reality...


The rules(understanding) between the two are for the most part not written down but just a loose agreement. Even the term SB is mostly a joke between the two of them. When you reach the point that you know the woman's RL name and family back ground you are becoming SB and SD.

Knowing who a woman is and where she comes from is simply early screening. Not a definition of the relationship.

[Whispers]

Originally Posted by Sidewinder

Dude, there's an entire section elsewhere on ECCIE that deals SOLELY with SD/SB stuff.

Go find it and read the stickies at the top.

There is.

It is unfortunate though that some cannot shake the "I'm a john" mentality and comprehend the information presented.

[Guest030824]

Sidewinder this is a new one that we like better than the other one.
After reading all of the posts I think no one can say for sure what a sugar baby is. Each SB/SD situation is different. I do think a mistress can be determined as an exclusive situation between the woman and the man. The mistress situation implies that the male is paying all of her expenses including room and transportation. That would also cost in the neighborhood of $5000 a month.

[Whispers]

Originally Posted by tucson

Sidewinder this is a new one that we like better than the other one.
After reading all of the posts I think no one can say for sure what a sugar baby is. Each SB/SD situation is different. I do think a mistress can be determined as an exclusive situation between the woman and the man. The mistress situation implies that the male is paying all of her expenses including room and transportation. That would also cost in the neighborhood of $5000 a month.

Apt $500
Elec $55
Water $25
Cable and Internet $55
Gas $100
Insurance $85
Cell Phone $60
Groceries $400

Grand Total for TOTAL Support of a 19yo Sophomore at TSU $1,280 a month

That yielded 3 days/nights a week and at least 1 weekend a month at my side or in the bed.... MANY overnights......

That was the MOST expensive exclusive relationship I've had in the last 4 years in regards to my total commitment to a girl........

Who are you guys trying to impress here talking about such out of wack committments?

[Recapacitar]

Originally Posted by theotherguy1

I have been attempting to find a Sugar baby without any luck. I have the financial ability to take care of a sugar baby and it is not that I am going to put a large demand on someone. Sometimes when you put on a little age the only thing that you have remaining is a lot of zeros after your bank account. I would love to have someone that I could spoil financially and that I could mentor into becoming financially successful. The only offers I have had are from individuals that I would pay to stay away from me.

I'd say start off by seeing some providers which it looks like you have done. Those relationships can turn into sugardaddy/sugarbaby relationships if the money/chemistry and etc falls into place.

If you're not finding the girls you want, then step up your dating game. If you're not already doing this, then you should be seeing at least 1 to 2 girls a week until your goal is accomplished.

You can also write an ad or join some sugardaddy/sugarbaby sites.

Remember the hottest girls will cost you the most money. If you have a lot zeros in your account, then finding a girl
shouldn't be a problem. If you're on a budget, then you want to find a diamond in the rough. They're a little harder to
find, but there are tons of them. Many of the serious hobbyists have at least one, but they'll never tell you.

But whatever you want, is out there. You just have to take consistent action to get it.

Good luck.