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03-18-2015, 12:06 PM
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I would wager the typical Israeli voter is miles smarter and more informed about their situation than American voters...............but the American left dismisses them as dummies and war mongers.
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Yep... just like whenever the left loses an election in the US they start whining and say "gosh, how could so many people be persuaded to vote against their own self-interest?" In this forum, zanyzit and others have expressed similar sentiments many times. These libtards actually believe they are more enlightened than you are and they know what is in your own self-interest better than you do!
This is proof the American left is more Leninist than it is democratic. Just as Lenin believed in the need for a dictatorship of the proletariat, the American left believes they know better than the rest of us how we should think and act and vote and therefore they deserve to rule on everyone else's behalf.
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03-18-2015, 12:18 PM
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#122
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Originally Posted by BigLouie
Their economy is in real trouble and they elected a guy who wants never ending war.
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Unlike Obama, Bibi recognizes the reality of the Middle East. You should take note.
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03-18-2015, 12:52 PM
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#123
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Originally Posted by BigLouie
Their economy is in real trouble and they elected a guy who wants never ending war.
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Israel is approaching its 60-year anniversary of THE WAR!
He's the correct MAN for the job at this time FOR ISRAEL.
Why don't you spend your time writing a letter to YOUR MAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE and tell him to quit trying to "nation build" by meddling in other country's elections ....
.. instead of whining that he gets more egg in face in international politics.
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03-18-2015, 01:02 PM
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#124
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Join Date: Mar 29, 2014
Location: Arkansas
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Originally Posted by lustylad
Yep... just like whenever the left loses an election in the US they start whining and say "gosh, how could so many people be persuaded to vote against their own self-interest?" In this forum, zanyzit and others have expressed similar sentiments many times. These libtards actually believe they are more enlightened than you are and they know what is in your own self-interest better than you do!
This is proof the American left is more Leninist than it is democratic. Just as Lenin believed in the need for a dictatorship of the proletariat, the American left believes they know better than the rest of us how we should think and act and vote and therefore they deserve to rule on everyone else's behalf.
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Yeah, because a Republican has never thought they knew what was in someone's best interest and made that decision for someone. Get the fuck out of here. If Republicans had their way a woman wouldn't even be in control of the reproductive nature of her body. They think the know what marriage is and they see fit to decide that for everyone, even though states are increasingly making the right decision. This is proof of something for sure. Proof you're a chickenshit dumbass.
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03-18-2015, 01:03 PM
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#125
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Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn
Unlike Obama, Bibi recognizes the reality of the Middle East. You should take note.
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Economy be damned, right? Obama recognizes that we cannot stop them from getting a bomb short of military action. So why not at least have monitoring. Sanctions don't work because Russia will piss in our eyes every chance they get.
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03-18-2015, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by UnderConstruction
Obama recognizes that we cannot stop them from getting a bomb short of military action. So why not at least have monitoring.
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That always works ... that monitoring thingy ...
Let's same some money and put the U.N. in charge of "monitoring" ...
.. after all ... if they fall asleep at the wheel ... the U.N. will help out the U.S.!
Right, genius?
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03-18-2015, 01:37 PM
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#127
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Originally Posted by LexusLover
That always works ... that monitoring thingy ...
Let's same some money and put the U.N. in charge of "monitoring" ...
.. after all ... if they fall asleep at the wheel ... the U.N. will help out the U.S.!
Right, genius?
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Those are the two choices? The problem is you keep saying 'Iran can't get a nuke, Iran can't get a nuke', but you offer no answers. Exactly how do you propose we go about that? You exhibit a tenuous grasp of geopolitics. There are other players here, it's not just us, Iran and Israel. You also have to realize that Russia is selling nuclear material to Iran. Russia is a permanent member of the security Council. There are many moving parts here. It's not as simple as you make it out to be.
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03-18-2015, 02:02 PM
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#128
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Join Date: Jan 3, 2010
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ANOTHER OBAMA FOREIGN POLICY FAILURE...
Has Obama ever gotten anything right?
He tried to influence the Israeli elections; but his meddling backfired. Israelis' voted for the come-from-behind Netanyahu. He won overwhelmingly.
Now, sour-grapes Obama is playing the race card!
Yep, Obama's press secretary say he’s “deeply concerned” about Netanyahu’s “divisive rhetoric” or something regarding busing of Arab voters. The Israelis need to prepare for the rath of an Obama backlash. Based on Netanyahu's election pledge against a Palestinian state, Josh Earnest says US will "reevaluate" its position on Mideast peace process.
Hang in there my Israeli friends; you are not alone, America has had to put up with the lost Obama decade. Only 18 more months to survive this nightmare of a president.
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03-18-2015, 02:40 PM
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#129
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Originally Posted by Whirlaway
I would wager the typical Israeli voter is miles smarter and more informed about their situation than American voters...............but the smug American left dismisses them as dummies and war mongers.
In other news, EU leaders congratulated Netanyahu on his come from behind win; on the other hand, Obama - Kerry won't comment and privately fume (over their loss presumably).
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Had a huge turnout 7% of Israelis voted.
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03-18-2015, 02:44 PM
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who but you mentioned Obie, you dumb fuck. What is the alternate? I have seen none just no negotiations. Nuke "em first?
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LMAO seven nations are at the table on the negotiations, and you twerps bleat it is just Obie and Kerry. ![Fish H4h](https://cdn-w.eccie.net/images/smilies/modern/fish_h4h.gif)
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And the phony "accept the Obama agreement deal or it's war" mantra continues from the dumbed down left.
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Never answer do you whirrly. You won't take ownership for anything just play the blame card.
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03-18-2015, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by UnderConstruction
The problem is you keep saying 'Iran can't get a nuke, Iran can't get a nuke', but you offer no answers. Exactly how do you propose we go about that?
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I don't hear republicans presenting another option...
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Originally Posted by Whirlaway
The phony argument only a dumb Obama supporter would believe =
Support the Obama-Kerry negotiated agreement, or war is the only alternative.
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Can we put this phony Odumbo talking point to bed once and for all? Undercunt is like a broken record, repeating it over and over again. He doesn't hear another option because he doesn't WANT to hear another option. He needs to STFU and listen for a change:
"Well, say the administration apologists, what’s your alternative? Do you want war? It’s Obama’s usual, subtle false-choice maneuver: It’s either appeasement or war. It’s not. True, there are no good choices, but Obama’s prospective deal is the worst possible. Not only does Iran get a clear path to the bomb but it gets sanctions lifted, all pressure removed and international legitimacy.
There is a third choice. If you are not stopping Iran’s program, don’t give away the store. Keep the pressure, keep the sanctions. Indeed, increase them. After all, previous sanctions brought Iran to its knees and to the negotiating table in the first place. And that was before the collapse of oil prices, which would now vastly magnify the economic effect of heightened sanctions.
Congress is proposing precisely that. Combined with cheap oil, it could so destabilize the Iranian economy as to threaten the clerical regime. That’s the opening. Then offer to renew negotiations for sanctions relief but from a very different starting point — no enrichment. Or, if you like, with a few token centrifuges for face-saving purposes. And no sunset.
That’s the carrot. As for the stick, make it quietly known that the United States will not stand in the way of any threatened nation that takes things into its own hands. We leave the regional threat to the regional powers, say, Israeli bombers overflying Saudi Arabia."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...ca6_story.html
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03-18-2015, 02:54 PM
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#132
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Join Date: Jan 16, 2010
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Originally Posted by UnderConstruction
Those are the two choices? The problem is you keep saying 'Iran can't get a nuke, Iran can't get a nuke', but you offer no answers.
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Are you sure about your quotes there, UC? I'm not.
I HAVE an answer:
1.Give the green light to Israel.
2.Prepare to dispatch the clean up crew.
3.Send the Iranians some get well soon cards signed by 2nd graders.
4.Send in the clean up crew when things cool off a bit.
It's called a "Pre-emptive Strike" in "Self-Defense"!
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03-18-2015, 02:58 PM
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#133
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Join Date: Mar 29, 2014
Location: Arkansas
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Originally Posted by lustylad
Can we put this phony Odumbo talking point to bed once and for all? Undercunt is like a broken record, repeating it over and over again. He doesn't hear another option because he doesn't WANT to hear another option. He needs to STFU and listen for a change:
"Well, say the administration apologists, what’s your alternative? Do you want war? It’s Obama’s usual, subtle false-choice maneuver: It’s either appeasement or war. It’s not. True, there are no good choices, but Obama’s prospective deal is the worst possible. Not only does Iran get a clear path to the bomb but it gets sanctions lifted, all pressure removed and international legitimacy.
There is a third choice. If you are not stopping Iran’s program, don’t give away the store. Keep the pressure, keep the sanctions. Indeed, increase them. After all, previous sanctions brought Iran to its knees and to the negotiating table in the first place. And that was before the collapse of oil prices, which would now vastly magnify the economic effect of heightened sanctions.
Congress is proposing precisely that. Combined with cheap oil, it could so destabilize the Iranian economy as to threaten the clerical regime. That’s the opening. Then offer to renew negotiations for sanctions relief but from a very different starting point — no enrichment. Or, if you like, with a few token centrifuges for face-saving purposes. And no sunset.
That’s the carrot. As for the stick, make it quietly known that the United States will not stand in the way of any threatened nation that takes things into its own hands. We leave the regional threat to the regional powers, say, Israeli bombers overflying Saudi Arabia."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...ca6_story.html
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Go with sanctions and no monitoring, see what that gets you.
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03-18-2015, 03:01 PM
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#134
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Originally Posted by i'va biggen
Had a huge turnout 7% of Israelis voted.
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Actually the turnout was 71.8%. Not 7%. Slight difference, huh? Oh well, just like your handle i'va little one, when you get it wrong it's no biggie!
http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Vot...lection-394166
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03-18-2015, 03:04 PM
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OK that's three members I've seen you use the little dick thing on without any prompting. I'm just gonna say it, you're either obsessed with little ones or you have one yourself.
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