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02-08-2022, 07:52 AM
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Are the cases declining in Canada? I’d assume they are and if so they could easily say the virus is endemic now, this variant is far less fatal, treat it like the flu. Heck they could even say “because of our strict mandates, we’ve defeated the virus. Less severe restrictions now”
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02-08-2022, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by lustylad
Question - how is this protest or standoff supposed to end?
In the US, the Biden administration tried to implement a vax mandate through OSHA but it was struck down by the SCOTUS (except for healthcare workers).
What is the legal status of the mandates in Canada and how would they be repealed there, assuming Trudeau and others (at both the national and Provincial levels) reversed course and agreed to repeal them?
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From all that I have read and can tell, Trudeau and his government have to lift the mandate. I have not read (although perhaps I missed them) any court cases similar to the US challenging the status. So I assume that Trudeau basically has dictator like powers in this regard. And he can enforce any cross border mandate because unlike Senile Biden and the border with Mexico, Canada secures its border
So it seems the only way to get Trudeau to reverse course is public pressure like this
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02-08-2022, 10:20 AM
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#108
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Originally Posted by Loretta77
Are the cases declining in Canada? I’d assume they are and if so they could easily say the virus is endemic now, this variant is far less fatal, treat it like the flu. Heck they could even say “because of our strict mandates, we’ve defeated the virus. Less severe restrictions now”
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To many libtards - in the US and Canada, lockdowns, vax mandates, masks all about power and control. The tyrants don't want to give up any of this control
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02-08-2022, 11:19 AM
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LOL - bring it on you libtard fucktard tyrant
Trudeau Government Threatens to Criminally Target Americans Who Donated to the Freedom Convoy 2022
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02-08-2022, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Chase7
You can now donate at GiveSendGo, F gofundme that blocked the money to the people of Canada.
Facebook has blocked a similar group in America, F Facebook
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Yep. The Freedom Truckers have raised over $5.5 million via GiveSendGo in just a few days since the Corrupt Canadian Government and GoFraudMe conspired to steal their funds
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02-08-2022, 11:27 AM
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Most of the mandates are provincial or territorial. Not from Trudeau. Not that facts matter.
And ironically, many of the restrictions have been easing recently. There's also polling that still shows strong support for many of the mandates and government actions among Canadians even as they, like we, grow weary of the pandemic phase and see that we're entering the endemic phase.
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02-08-2022, 12:01 PM
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Most of the mandates are provincial or territorial. Not from Trudeau. Not that facts matter.
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The Cross Border Vaccine Mandate that is the main subject of and started the whole Freedom Trucker protest was imposed by Trudeau. Because you know, facts matter
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02-08-2022, 12:29 PM
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Most of the mandates are provincial or territorial. Not from Trudeau. Not that facts matter.
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Facts matter to me. So if I'm hauling a load from Alberta to Quebec, do I need to show a vax card to cross Provincial lines? I don't think so. They don't stop traffic at Provincial borders. Do you need to show a vax card before you can pick up the load?
I read 85% of Canadian truckers are vaxxed so what's the big deal? Why force the other 15% to quit their jobs over a pandemic that is rapidly diminishing?
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02-08-2022, 01:04 PM
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Which is cute and all, since you detected my sarcasm. But once it morphed into removing all COVID restrictions, the primary driver shifted and it's no longer just about the Jan 15 mandate. Hasn't been for over a week.
So get your facts straight.
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02-08-2022, 01:07 PM
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There's also polling that still shows strong support for many of the mandates and government actions among Canadians
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Hey Gristle - I am sure you missed this - because you know, facts matter:
Majority of Canadians want COVID restrictions lifted: Poll
A majority of Canadians now say it is time to end COVID restrictions, according to an Angus Reid poll, a sharp increase from when the same question was asked in early January.
The latest poll, taken Jan. 27-28, found 54% want restrictions to be lifted compared to just 39% who wanted restrictions lifted when the same question was asked two weeks earlier.
https://torontosun.com/news/national...ns-lifted-poll
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02-08-2022, 01:10 PM
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Check the others as well, berry. Don't just cherry pick the ones you like
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02-08-2022, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by HDGristle
...it's no longer just about the Jan 15 mandate. Hasn't been for over a week.
So get your facts straight.
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Ok, I did a search on the Jan. 15 mandate. It's complicated. The vax mandate only applies to US-Canadian cross-border traffic and Canadian truckers are exempted from it. So wtf are they protesting about? Sounds like unvaxxed US truckers are the ones being shut out by this.
https://www.reuters.com/world/americ...ts-2022-01-13/
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02-08-2022, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by lustylad
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It's interesting what happens when a narrative gets co-opted, isn't it? Some are now looking for a full repeal of all COVID mandates. Some want Trudeau's government to step down.
And then there's whatever Berry wants
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02-08-2022, 01:45 PM
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Ottawa will allow 50% capacity Feb 21 for NHL games.
Canada basically has one sport and the liberals have also ruined that for everyone.
I’m surprised there’s not more done about that in Canada, by the people.
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02-08-2022, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by HDGristle
It's interesting what happens when a narrative gets co-opted, isn't it? Some are now looking for a full repeal of all COVID mandates. Some want Trudeau's government to step down.
And then there's whatever Berry wants
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Berry wants what we all want - to be able to drive to Toronto and fuck hot Canadian providers again.
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