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Old 02-10-2013, 09:39 AM   #106
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Well, no wonder you are the . . .

DIPSHIT OF THE YEAR 2013

ASSUP!!!

Well played, Whiny. It's legit if it serves your purpose. If it takes your mind off of the scrotum presently resting on your chin, you go to the cut and paste.

Not only are you dishonest, you're also lazy.

Not much to you at all, is there? or in your words, YOU GOT NOTHING.

(Maybe some worms from your cut and paste mentor)
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Old 02-10-2013, 09:47 AM   #107
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5 Ways the Media Covered for Obama in the 2012 Campaign:

1. The Media’s Biased Gaffe Patrol Hammered Romney: The media unfairly jumped on inconsequential mistakes — or even invented controversies — from Romney and hyped them in to multi-day media “earthquakes.” Case in point: the GOP candidate’s trip to Europe and Israel in late July. A Media Research Center analysis of all 21 ABC, CBS and NBC evening news stories about Romney’s trip found that virtually all of them (18, or 86%) emphasized “diplomatic blunders,” “gaffes” or “missteps.”
Conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer blasted the news coverage in an August 2 column, calling the trip “a major substantive success” that was wrapped “in a media narrative of surpassing triviality.”

Similarly, when the left-wing Mother Jones magazine in September put out a secretly-recorded video of Romney talking to donors about the 47% of Americans who don’t pay income taxes, the networks hyped it like a sensational sex scandal. Over three days, the broadcast network morning and evening shows churned out 42 stories on the tape, nearly 90 minutes of coverage. The tone was hyperbolic; ABC’s "Good Morning America" called it a “bombshell rocking the Mitt Romney campaign,” while ABC "World News" anchor Diane Sawyer declared it a “political earthquake.”

None of Obama’s gaffes garnered that level of coverage. After the president in a June 8 press conference declared that “the private sector is doing fine,” the ABC, CBS and NBC evening newscasts gave it just one night’s coverage, then basically dropped the story — nothing further on ABC’s "World News" or the "CBS Evening News" in the weeks that followed, and just two passing references on the "NBC Nightly News."

And, when Obama infamously declared, “You didn’t build that,” ABC, CBS, NBC didn’t report the politically damaging remark for four days — and then only after Romney made it the centerpiece of a campaign speech.

2. Pounding Romney With Partisan Fact Checking: There’s nothing wrong with holding politicians accountable for the honesty of their TV ads and stump speeches, but this year the self-appointed media fact-checkers attacked Republicans as liars for statements that were accurate.

For example, a Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reporter writing for PolitiFact branded VP candidate Paul Ryan’s convention speech anecdote about the closing of the General Motors plant in his hometown as “false,” even though Ryan was correct in all of his details. The slanted review became TV reporters’ talking points; the next day on NBC, correspondent Chuck Todd grumped that while what Ryan said “was technically factual, by what he left out, [he] actually distorted the actual truth.” Matt Lauer greeted Ryan the following week in an interview on Today: “There are some people who are claiming that you played a little fast and loose with the truth....”

The same thing happened when Mitt Romney talked about Obama’s “apology tour” during the final presidential debate. While in 2009 Obama had, in fact, criticized the United States as “arrogant,” “derisive” and having “too often... set [our] principles aside,” the networks said to call it an “apology tour” was “false” because, as CNN’s John Berman tenuously insisted, “even if he was critical of past U.S. foreign policy, he issued no apologies.”

Writing in the New York Times August 31, correspondent Jackie Calmes scolded that “the number of falsehoods and misleading statements from the Romney campaign coming in for independent criticism has reached a level not typically seen.” That’s not true, either; Romney’s team was, at worst, guilty of highlighting those facts that best illustrated their points (something done by all politicians), and the Obama campaign certainly put out their share of tawdry TV ads and dubious campaign claims.

But with “truth cops” who mainly policed just the GOP side of the street, the media used “fact-checking” as another club to tilt the playing field in favor of the Democrats.

3. Those Biased Debate Moderators: Upset liberals scorned PBS’s Jim Lehrer for taking a hands-off approach in the first debate on October 3, with MSNBC analyst Howard Fineman slamming him as “practically useless” for not jumping into the debate on behalf of President Obama.

Such criticism may have encouraged the activist approach taken by ABC’s Martha Raddatz in the vice presidential debate October 11, and by CNN’s Candy Crowley in the October 16 town hall debate, as both of those journalists repeatedly interrupted the Republican candidate and larded the discussion with a predominantly liberal agenda.
Crowley earns extra demerits for taking the media’s penchant for faulty fact-checking to new heights when she jumped into the October 16 town hall-style debate to validate President Obama’s claim that he called the attack in Benghazi, Libya, “an act of terror” the very next morning. Crowley endorsed Obama’s story, telling Romney: “He did, in fact, sir, call it an act of terror.”

Not according to the transcript, which had Obama only speaking generically about how “no acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this nation,” not assigning that label to the violence in Benghazi.

Wrong though she was, Crowley became a heroine to many in the liberal media; ABC's Matt Dowd, for example, cheered: “What Candy Crowley did, I actually thought, was laudable....I hope we get to do more of that in this discourse.”

Moderators are supposed to ensure both sides get a fair hearing, not pick sides. By leaping into the fray, Candy Crowley epitomized the media’s itch to tilt the scales this year — again, in Obama’s favor.

4. The Benghazi Blackout: Right after the September 11 attack in Libya, the networks proclaimed that the events would bolster President Obama — “reminding voters of his power as commander-in-chief,” as NBC’s Peter Alexander stated on the September 14 edition of "Today." But as a cascade of leaked information erased the portrait of Obama as a heroic commander, the broadcast networks shunted the Benghazi story to the sidelines.

News broke online in late September, for example, that Team Obama knew within 24 hours that the attack was likely the result of terrorism. That starkly contradicted claims from White House press secretary Jay Carney, U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice, and President Obama himself that the attack was a “spontaneous” reaction to an anti-Muslim video posted on YouTube. Yet, ABC took nearly two days to bring this story to viewers, while CBS and NBC held off for three days.

This was, shamefully, the broadcast networks’ pattern in October: New developments exposing the administration’s failure to provide adequate security, or contradictions in their public statements, were either given stingy coverage or buried completely. The puzzle pieces revealed a disturbing failure of Obama’s national security apparatus, but the networks flitted in and out of the story, never giving it any traction.

Instead of an “October Surprise,” the networks engineered an “October Suppression” — keeping a lid on the boiling Benghazi story until Election Day. Who knows how voters might have reacted if the media had covered this story as tenaciously as they did Romney’s “47% gaffe”?

5. Burying the Bad Economy: Pundits agreed that Obama’s weakness was the failure of the US economy to revive after his expensive stimulus and four years of $1 trillion deficits. But the major networks failed to offer the sustained, aggressive coverage of the economy that incumbent Republican President George H.W. Bush faced in 1992, or even that George W. Bush faced in 2004 — both years when the national economy was in better shape than it is now.

According to a study conducted that year by the Center for Media and Public Affairs, from January through September of 1992, the networks ran a whopping 1,289 stories on the economy, 88% of which painted it in a dismal, negative light. That fall, the unemployment rate was 7.6%, lower than today’s 7.9%, and economic growth in the third quarter was 2.7%, better than today’s 2.0%. Yet the media coverage hammered the idea of a terrible economy, and Bush lost re-election.

In 2004, the economy under George W. Bush was far better than it is today — higher growth, lower unemployment, smaller deficits and cheaper gasoline — yet network coverage that year was twice as hostile to Bush than it was towards Obama this year, according to a study by the Media Research Center’s Business and Media Institute.
When Republican presidents have faced reelection, network reporters made sure to spotlight economic “victims” — the homeless man, the woman without health insurance, the unemployed worker, the senior citizen who had to choose between medicine and food. But this year, with an economy as bad as any since the Great Depression, those sympathetic anecdotes have vanished from the airwaves — a huge favor to Obama and the Democrats.

Given Obama’s record, the Romney campaign could have overcome much of this media favoritism and still prevailed — indeed, they almost did. But taken together, these five trends took the media’s historical bias to new levels this year, and saved Obama’s presidency in the process.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/...#ixzz2KVmIDD5i
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OBAMA JOB APPROVAL RATING LOWER THAN NIXON'S

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...r-Than-Nixon-s


And the liberal media hammered Nixon.................can you imagine Obama's real approval ratings if he had to deal with a White House press corps that asked probative questions?

Instead of the love fest interviews like the recent 60-Minute Scott Pelly worship of Hillary and Obama..
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Glad to see no one is claiming the media was honest in getting Obama elected and reelected.
You didn't make it an option. Your poll is as dishonest as you are, fool. You claim people by 2:1 believe he wouldn't have been reelected, well you're living in ECCIE world (and obviously not as a hobbyist) ...people in THIS flawed poll think so. If the media was honest, like you seem to want, 1) there would be no birther issue 2) Most of you toothless fuckers wouldn't understand the truth since there'd be no fox to spoon feed you with lies 3) there would be no Tea Party movement and 4) Glenn Beck would be a morning traffic reporter.

You dipshits get so much of you momentum and promotion from racketeering "news" organizations that you actually believe it's at the root of good and evil.

Try EDUCATION. If you weren't so fucking ignorant this wouldn't be an issue.

You'd blame the Jews and Negros. Wait a second, you DO!

OK, maybe you'd get out and vote. Unless ... Maybe... Possibly, your side isn't big e ough to win because ... Wait for it .... Wait for it .... IT'S DISHONESTY PROMOTED BY EVIL MEN WHO HAVE TURNED YOU INTO THE VERY THRALLS YOU CLAIM THE MAJORITY OF CIVILIZATION TO BE!

The Emperor has no clothes? Naw, the Right Wing has no BRAIN!
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AssUp gets his news from NPR and MSNBC.............yikes !
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Old 02-10-2013, 10:07 AM   #111
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It's not a point shit for brains. It's a sophomoric hooker board poll with a universe that's comprised mainly of dipshits responding to a narrow instrument of lose lose questions.

there is no fact and can only allow negative response, weighted by the author to elicit negative response.

It's far less scientific than IBCryings last stool sample or the DNA sample retrieved from Whinys shirtsleeve.

And you are too damned thick to understand that, "teach"

I'd like to see your certificate...
. . . and Assup the jackass -- by an overwhelming margin -- was elected:


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AssUp gets his news from NPR and MSNBC.............yikes !
Trendaway is Trending FAUX and Breitbart as his favorite news sources.

Yep, that makes Trendy a two time loser!
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Feel free to make a cogent argument that the MSM doesn't have a liberal bias that protects Obama and helped him win in 2008 and again in 2012.........

Waiting....
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Feel free to make a cogent argument that the MSM doesn't have a liberal bias that protects Obama and helped him win in 2008 and again in 2012.........

Waiting....
Trendy, feel free to make a cogent argument that Faux does not have an anti Obama bias that failed to protect blind Republicants and helped them lose by sizable margins in 2008 and again in 2012..........

Waiting.....
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Of all the media outlets, Romney got the most equitable treatment from Fox. Fox is a powerhouse, but it pales in comparison to the media clout that the liberal outlets of NYTs, WAPO, LA Times, CNN, NPR, MSNBC, CBS, NBC, and PBS, and ABC have.


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Trendy, feel free to make a cogent argument that Faux does not have an anti Obama bias that failed to protect blind Republicants and helped them lose by sizable margins in 2008 and again in 2012..........

Waiting.....

Waiting on you to make a similar statement regarding the bias of the above mentioned media........either put up or shut up....your bullshitting is getting boring.....

Try to educate us with an informed post for once....waiting....
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AssUp has given up; he knows the facts aren't on his side...maybe you should as well....
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Try to educate us with an informed post for once....waiting....
How's this for educating Trendy with an informed post?

Trendy is Trending ignorant!

Feel better now?
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And BigNothing, has nothing to offer.......................ex cept bullshit.
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Media Bias 101: Benghazi vs. Watergate and Iran-Contra

By PAUL KENGOR at American Spectator

Who’d have thought that hyenas could turn into lambs.

Question: How is Benghazi different from Watergate and Iran-Contra? The obvious answer: the media. Liberal journalists turned Watergate and Iran-Contra into gigantic national scandals by their consistent, relentless pursuit of both stories; to the contrary, they are consistently, relentlessly ignoring Benghazi.

The media’s treatment of Watergate needs no explanation here. The press detested Richard Nixon unlike any modern president. Sure, the liberal media went after George W. Bush, but nothing like the way it attacked Richard Nixon. Liberals’ hatred of Nixon was pathological. It dated to Nixon’s work in exposing Alger Hiss. As Nixon would say at the end of his life, the Hiss-Chambers trial forever forged a legion of unwavering Nixon enemies on the left. I’m not saying that Richard Nixon was an angel, but if you want to understand Watergate, you need to understand the hatred of Nixon by the liberal media.
The media’s feelings about Ronald Reagan were not quite the same, but nasty nonetheless. Liberal journalists demonized Reagan, calling him everything from an idiot to a nuclear warmonger. They caricatured Reagan as a dawdling old fool who wanted to blow up the world and who disliked the homeless, the poor, minorities, and on and on. They blamed Ragan for everything from greed to AIDS. And they searched diligently for a Watergate-like scandal to run Reagan out of the White House, as they had Nixon.



The operative words are “searched diligently.” CBS, NBC, ABC, the New York Times, the Washington Post, NPR, and the usual suspects looked everywhere for something — gee, anything — to hurt Reagan. Being political partisans first and journalists second, they dug furiously for their Watergate. And they thought they had it in Iran-Contra.
It’s fascinating, however, to see how the Reagan team immediately reacted to the Iran-Contra allegations. The president and his attorney general wanted prompt and full disclosure. As soon as Attorney General Ed Meese learned of the situation, he brought it to President Reagan, and they together publicly disclosed the details to a hysterical media on November 25, 1986. They wanted to come clean immediately, to avoid even the slightest whiff of a cover up.

The media, however, was ferocious in its lack of charity and understanding, and ditto for its party, the Democrats, which ran Congress. In mere weeks, Lawrence Walsh, a former federal judge, was appointed Independent Counsel to determine whether the deal was illegal and which individuals should be prosecuted. For the press, the big question was the president’s personal knowledge and involvement: What did Reagan know?
The media wanted Ronald Reagan in handcuffs, and was relishing the prospect of prison terms for a whole host of Reagan officials — Cap Weinberger, Bud McFarlane, John Poindexter, Ollie North, to name just a few. They wanted blood. There was no way they were going to miss a Watergate opportunity for the Gipper.

Congressional Democrats scheduled dramatic hearings, broadcast all day long by the networks. The nation was riveted, especially by the sight of NSC figures like Col. North, testifying in his Marine uniform, and Admiral Poindexter, speaking slowly to glaring interrogators in between pauses to puff his pipe and to listen to whispers from his attorney Brendan Sullivan. The evening news broadcasts provided wall-to-wall coverage.
It was relentless. Bill Clark, one of Reagan’s closest aides in taking down the USSR, who by this time had returned to his ranch in California, told me about a trip he made to Washington that December 1986, after Iran-Contra broke. He was there for a ceremony honoring his previous work as secretary of the interior. Reporters didn’t give a damn about Clark’s work at interior. They came and hounded him about Iran-Contra. Wherever the president and his men went, they were tailed and peppered by aggressive reporters who ensured a constant stream of questions about Iran-Contra. It was unceasing — the complete opposite of what we’re seeing now with Obama and crew over Benghazi.

And think of how history would have been different if the media had run Reagan out of office: No Berlin Wall speech, no Washington or Moscow Summit, no INF Treaty, and surely no collapse of communism in 1989. Michael Dukakis would have probably won the presidency in 1988.


The way the Reagan team reacted to initial reports on Iran-Contra is precisely the opposite of how the Obama team has responded. But even more telling are the opposite media reactions. For Iran-Contra, the media refused to be satisfied with the initial response of Meese and Reagan. Liberal reporters went absolutely bonkers, all hands on deck, a full-court press to find incriminating information. Today, under Obama, it’s the exact opposite.

What we’re witnessing right now is how the media’s liberal bias truly works. Liberal journalists can be like men and women possessed when a Republican is in the Oval Office, but for a liberal Democrat, they are as compliant as lambs. Being political partisans first and journalists second, they are now silently complicit when faced with Obama’s scandal, one potentially more disturbing than Watergate and Iran-Contra combined. After all, Americans died in Benghazi.

For liberals in the media, however, corpses in Libya get in the way of their primary duty: getting Barack Obama reelected.
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Americans, like most Sandboxers, know the liberal bias exist...even if Timmyboy, AssUp, Wellendowed, BigTits, and others won't admit to it...



http://www.gallup.com/poll/149624/ma...eive-bias.aspx
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