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Old 07-14-2015, 05:35 PM   #106
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And I take it you work for H & R Block? How the fuck you know what taxes they pay or don't pay? Describe yourself- I bet you fit the mold of what I as talking about and the truth hurts- doesn't it? Do you think the average hobbyist is some physically sculptured young white stud with a 10 inch penis that are scheduling appointments??? And unlike you with your 1 review and barely been on this site over 90 days- I go back to the ASPD days and my statistics are word of mouth from the providers mouth on what their average hobbyist demographic are- and once again sorry if you fit the bill.
So are you gonna call him a RACIST like obammy and "Reverend " Al says that YOU should ? And tell him that he has an AGENDA against YOU !!! ? Go whine to the mods now WE !!!
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I will share my experience with you guys on this subject ive actually discuss this with *JuspenDover*prior to this thread in chat..However i have only been within the hobby for a year before moving to Dallas i Provided a service in South Carolina being New to the industry outcalls where not offered..due to my wanting to feel safe!!

I received a call from a Gentleman very well spoken educated living in a Affluent Greeneville South Carolina suburb all of the formalities of screening was done and the Outcall which ive *NEVER* entertained doing was set Let me say that i had no idea through conversation that the Gentleman requesting my time was African American and He would have been the first African American Experience for me within the Industry.

I arrive at the home and Greeted by a very well dressed and attractive man in his early 50's..I'm startled First because once again i had no idea from his voice over the phone conversations He would be African American Not sound racist by any means his voice took me as being a Caucasian Gentleman(maybe the joke was played on me and the Caucasian Gentleman was upstairs or something)..LOL!!..it gets better i ask if its ok to wash my hands in the restroom for that purpose and also to calm down hoping that im alone with this Gentleman I'm in the restroom and its Gorgeous to say the least along with the entire home that i could see i walk out and we start to the master bedroom with cold glass(drink) once comfortable i thought 4 other African American Men entire the Bedroom..I'm then forced to get naked robbed of $700 and the weirdest thing about that Experience is The younger of them all which im guessing was 40yrs. old actually helped me by saying to the others....*Man Let The White B*tch Go*!!!

After 2 hours of being called everything in the dictionary that does not define who i actually really am and Threatened to be raped and beat i am released.The drive back to my home was one of sheer tears and That night i thought to myself that this industry is not for me so many thoughts went through my mind #1 being the *Children* That i Birth into this world and They being without Their*Mother*.

My Preference has to do with my Safety and My Business Racially Motivated People Nor They're Intentions Are Not Welcome In My circle..let me say that if eccie had the option of screening such as P411 my showcase would read differently.

Enjoy Be Safe&Play Clean!!
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Old 07-14-2015, 06:52 PM   #108
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You sound like a very intelligent gentleman. Thanks for your reasonable and sensible input. There are some ladies that just simply aren't attracted to certain types of men. Just as some men aren't attracted to certain types of ladies. Someone who refuses to service someone based on race, religion, sexual preference is wrong but this type of service is totally different. If I know I am not attracted to someone or a certain race in a man, why would I want to make believe that I am. That is neither fair to me or him. He is simply wasting his money. I would rather him spend money on another lady who would find him attractive. Hell, do you think all men find me attractive? NO!

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I've tried to stay away from threads like this because there is no solution. I understand that people have a choice in who they fuck...just like I as a consumer have a choice on who I spend money on. I'm AA, my kids are mixed and I love all races of women. When I have chosen not to see a woman, it wasn't because she was white, asian, black, etc...it was because she wasn't attractive to me or we just didn't click.

Some ladies have their excuses of why they don't see AA men, e.g. our dicks are too big (myth...I'm living proof of that), we are too ghetto (stereotype), or maybe they just had a bad experience with an AA man (still BS--as if they haven't had bad experiences with other races)

If any of the above reasons have been used by a lady thats her own internal problem unless she is just not attracted to black men. Bottom line is ladies have no fucking clue whats on the other side of that door until it opens but they would much rather take thier chances with a white, asian, or indian man verses a man of color because of the stereotypes and perceptions portrayed in our society. You really should have to advertise what color you will or won't see but if you screen and ask the right question before your session you can pretty much get a feel if you click with that guy or not.
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I am so sorry that happened to you Ginger. I do hope you are doing much better these days. No lady deserves to be treated in such fashion. Thanks for sharing your story.

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I will share my experience with you guys on this subject I've actually discuss this with *JuspenDover*prior to this thread in chat..However i have only been within the hobby for a year before moving to Dallas i Provided a service in South Carolina being New to the industry outcalls where not offered..due to my wanting to feel safe!!

I received a call from a Gentleman very well spoken educated living in a Affluent Greeneville South Carolina suburb all of the formalities of screening was done and the Outcall which ive *NEVER* entertained doing was set Let me say that i had no idea through conversation that the Gentleman requesting my time was African American and He would have been the first African American Experience for me within the Industry.

I arrive at the home and Greeted by a very well dressed and attractive man in his early 50's..I'm startled First because once again i had no idea from his voice over the phone conversations He would be African American Not sound racist by any means his voice took me as being a Caucasian Gentleman(maybe the joke was played on me and the Caucasian Gentleman was upstairs or something)..LOL!!..it gets better i ask if its ok to wash my hands in the restroom for that purpose and also to calm down hoping that im alone with this Gentleman I'm in the restroom and its Gorgeous to say the least along with the entire home that i could see i walk out and we start to the master bedroom with cold glass(drink) once comfortable i thought 4 other African American Men entire the Bedroom..I'm then forced to get naked robbed of $700 and the weirdest thing about that Experience is The younger of them all which im guessing was 40yrs. old actually helped me by saying to the others....*Man Let The White B*tch Go*!!!

After 2 hours of being called everything in the dictionary that does not define who i actually really am and Threatened to be raped and beat i am released.The drive back to my home was one of sheer tears and That night i thought to myself that this industry is not for me so many thoughts went through my mind #1 being the *Children* That i Birth into this world and They being without Their*Mother*.

My Preference has to do with my Safety and My Business Racially Motivated People Nor They're Intentions Are Not Welcome In My circle..let me say that if eccie had the option of screening such as P411 my showcase would read differently.

Enjoy Be Safe&Play Clean!!
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Old 07-14-2015, 07:26 PM   #110
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You can have ur cup of tea...but in fact from MANY people perspectives it is TRASHY! Because unless you are pimped out or have family/friend/acquaintance issues its plan and simply racism however u stir it.

"No AA men" (some are even rude enough to put "NO EXCEPTIONS" lol) why? If you had 2 men same age, same smell, same job, same manners, same physical features etc & etc pretty much identical twins EXCEPT 1 WAS BLACK & 1 WAS WHITE....u would not see the black guy WHY? hmmm the color of his skin! boils down to TRASHY & RACIST in my perspective....but to each their own

for me I have NO LOVE, PATIENCE UNDERSTANDING OR COMPASSION TOWARDS RACISM OR RACIST BEHAVIOR. AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM SAYING IT. ITS DOWN RIGHT DISGUSTING
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Old 07-14-2015, 07:41 PM   #111
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What ever happened to all of us having the freedom to choose our preference as both hobbiest and providers.. There are body types and hair color and styles I absolutly will not hobby with. If there are the same for providers so be it. I won't see a midget is that heightism? I don't see anybody over 35, is that ageism? I know some black guys don't like darker grils, and so on.... The point is at what point does your "rights" infringe on somebody else's? Find somebody who doesn't have "NO AA" and have a good time this isn't the place to address racial, political, or religious issues. Both hobbiest and providers are here for the same reasons.
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Old 07-14-2015, 07:42 PM   #112
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You can have ur cup of tea...but in fact from MANY people perspectives it is TRASHY! Because unless you are pimped out or have family/friend/acquaintance issues its plan and simply racism however u stir it.

"No AA men" (some are even rude enough to put "NO EXCEPTIONS" lol) why? If you had 2 men same age, same smell, same job, same manners, same physical features etc & etc pretty much identical twins EXCEPT 1 WAS BLACK & 1 WAS WHITE....u would not see the black guy WHY? hmmm the color of his skin! boils down to TRASHY & RACIST in my perspective....but to each their own

for me I have NO LOVE, PATIENCE UNDERSTANDING OR COMPASSION TOWARDS RACISM OR RACIST BEHAVIOR. AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM SAYING IT. ITS DOWN RIGHT DISGUSTING
I do not discriminate when it comes to clients. I have a HYGIENE requirement, which overrules all. As far as distinguishing the difference between which AA to see, I see them all as long as they screen like they are supposed to. There are younger and older white guys who aren't safe, why screen them differently? I rarely have trouble out of black guys, as they treat me like a queen when they visit me! I don't care about the Caucasian providers who prefer to not see AA men, I say that's racist, but I also say, COOL, MORE FOR ME ! You don't know the good dick you are missing out on lol. They have the same jobs, same money cars and benefits of a white man so who cares? A client is a client. Im picky, but more about the important things. Like are you LE, are you well groomed, are you mature, do you have my donation. LOl Everything else is neither here nor there. Do your job, be safe, move around. Funny thing is, most of the Caucasian girls that have a no AA policy stay at low budget hotels and have AA pimps! So don't believe the hype. Others have the policy to satisfy the tastes and preferences of their Caucasian clients who might not approve or want to see them if they know the girl may date AA. Who cares tho.... More for me!
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I'm not racist have no aa on my showcase. I have aa friends, love them to death. I have had several bad experience In the hobby with them do I choose not to see them. It has nothing to do with $, wear and tear on my body etch. I am in the hobby for the experience just like the men. I don't want to feel not comfortable or make them feel uncomfortable because they are aa. ith me ymmv and the aa men have no idea what mileage they are. IE AA business men with respect I don't mind seeing. Other AA men I don't want to see... That's why I had to just flat out put no AA. I do not have a pimp never will. I might see AA men in th4 future but a few of them RUINED the experience with them. Blame those ones not the girls that CHOOSE not to see them!
Let me ask you a question - if the same black men who you claimed ruined it for you were white - are you telling me you would have a no whites in your ad? Or if God forbid your next 3 to 4 clients were all white guys who robbed or did something bad to you - you telling me that you would have a no whites allowed ? I think not!
You are entitled to see who you like makes no difference let's call it what is because many times I look in the alert section and I have seen many occasions where a white guy has stolen - physically harm and purposely left without paying- yet why don't you ever see a NWA policy ? We all know the reason because a provider would get little to know business since easily white men make up least 75 percent of the clientele .
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Gotta co-sign on JimiHendrix and WellEndowed1911, because I've thought about all of that, especially since many of the ones I've seen flash the "NBA" are the ones, if there are TRUE to their pics, that are the higher dollar providers. Being racist is bad for the hobby, but let's be real, many providers frankly want the easiest route possible, whether they're pressed into providing or not, so I know not all of them are actually RACIST. I'm over 40 but I don't look my age and run 4-6 miles a pop. Frankly I only do HHR sessions most of the time and NONE of them have really been that short, whether it's Heather or Monifah.

I'd rather the "NBA's" advertise it than have me go through these hoops and signals only to get to the meet part and then get "oh, you're BLACK?" I've had that happen too many times already. But it's also unnerving to read ads that flash "NBA" and then in the very next line say "gentlemen only" or "upscale" blah blah blah, etc, like all "others" are "upscale" or like THEY are upscale, knowing dayum well some of them needed the web to spell "upscale". I'm not sure there are many of us here that are "gentlemanly" anyway.....I mean, how is me nutting on an IP's body, face or mouth "gentlemanly" any dayum way? How does me grabbing an IP by the head and going FF on her "upscale"? Oh, that's right, the OP's those IP's are seeing probably aren't getting to do all of that....that "work" thing again.

I applaud those who've put some knowledge on this thread and aren't afraid to tell it like it is because THEY DON'T NEED THIS.
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Gotta co-sign on JimiHendrix and WellEndowed1911, because I've thought about all of that, especially since many of the ones I've seen flash the "NBA" are the ones, if there are TRUE to their pics, that are the higher dollar providers. Being racist is bad for the hobby, but let's be real, many providers frankly want the easiest route possible, whether they're pressed into providing or not, so I know not all of them are actually RACIST. I'm over 40 but I don't look my age and run 4-6 miles a pop. Frankly I only do HHR sessions most of the time and NONE of them have really been that short, whether it's Heather or Monifah.

I'd rather the "NBA's" advertise it than have me go through these hoops and signals only to get to the meet part and then get "oh, you're BLACK?" I've had that happen too many times already. But it's also unnerving to read ads that flash "NBA" and then in the very next line say "gentlemen only" or "upscale" blah blah blah, etc, like all "others" are "upscale" or like THEY are upscale, knowing dayum well some of them needed the web to spell "upscale". I'm not sure there are many of us here that are "gentlemanly" anyway.....I mean, how is me nutting on an IP's body, face or mouth "gentlemanly" any dayum way? How does me grabbing an IP by the head and going FF on her "upscale"? Oh, that's right, the OP's those IP's are seeing probably aren't getting to do all of that....that "work" thing again.

I applaud those who've put some knowledge on this thread and aren't afraid to tell it like it is because THEY DON'T NEED THIS.
+100000 I am waiting for Holly Shields are any NBA lady to be honest and tell me if the next 3 to 4 white men they see- were to short them, rob them, or physically harm them- that they would impose a NWA policy- they are lying if they say they will- the fact of the matter is White men are basically the bread and butter of this business and there's nothing wrong with it- but I think in the year 2015 justifying the fact that 1 or 2 black men treated them wrong than I will just boycott the whole race.
Imagine if the first two or 3 times a hobbyist met with a provider and they all gave him bad service- if he than stated well all providers are like this therefore I will never hobby again- his choice- but a very ignorant one. However, in closing I could give a rat's ass who has an NBA policy- I have been with some of the finest ladies before I started to hobby during my current hobby career and when I decide to leave the hobby. There's way too many beautiful women in this world- providers and non- providers for anyone to be concerned over some NBA policy, but I still stand by the notion that most NBA ladies are pimped or have it in place for financial gin- heck I been with 3 NBA ladies during my run on ASPD/ECCIE with the agreement that I remain hush and don't post a review.
When push comes to shove guys- GREEN is far more powerful than Black or White bank on it. However, I will digress!
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I offer this to providers who have been scarred by AA men in some kind of way:

IDENTIFY THEM.

Point or call them out, by their handle.
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I do not discriminate when it comes to clients. I have a HYGIENE requirement, which overrules all. As far as distinguishing the difference between which AA to see, I see them all as long as they screen like they are supposed to. There are younger and older white guys who aren't safe, why screen them differently? I rarely have trouble out of black guys, as they treat me like a queen when they visit me! I don't care about the Caucasian providers who prefer to not see AA men, I say that's racist, but I also say, COOL, MORE FOR ME ! You don't know the good dick you are missing out on lol. They have the same jobs, same money cars and benefits of a white man so who cares? A client is a client. Im picky, but more about the important things. Like are you LE, are you well groomed, are you mature, do you have my donation. LOl Everything else is neither here nor there. Do your job, be safe, move around. Funny thing is, most of the Caucasian girls that have a no AA policy stay at low budget hotels and have AA pimps! So don't believe the hype. Others have the policy to satisfy the tastes and preferences of their Caucasian clients who might not approve or want to see them if they know the girl may date AA. Who cares tho.... More for me!
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And you maam, make me wish i had stayed in Colorado, and have me looking forward to my return trip!
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You really should NOT have to advertise what color you will or won't see but if you screen and ask the right question before your session you can pretty much get a feel if you click with that guy or not.
Had to correct that....
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you to say u prefer chocolate dick but uf someone else announces their pref thats racist
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