So, you still think Covid came from Bats?

[Ducbutter]

Originally Posted by adav8s28

+1

Good link Tiny. This was a balanced and objective article. As I wrote before there is no proof that the amino acid sequence of the Spike protein in Sars Cov2 virus was modified at the Wuhan lab. From the link.

Those insisting on a natural origin say the virus lacks genetic features that would show it to have been deliberately engineered. But it’s also possible that SARS-CoV-2 evolved naturally in the wild before it was brought into a lab to be studied, only to subsequently escape. The Wuhan Institute of Virology, which many see as the likeliest site of a breakout, houses one of the largest collections of coronaviruses in the world.

The problem is the Trump worshipers on here, like there hero don't believe in science.

Kristian Anderson put the lie to this garbage in Feb. 2020 when he emailed Fauci and informed him that the virus looked engineered to him.

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

You're correct ....

What The Fuck is that?

[bambino]

Originally Posted by Levianon17

What The Fuck is that?

A Trump plant!!!!!!! Prolly Chevy Chase. Biden is “shot”


BAHAHAHAHA

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by Levianon17

What The Fuck is that?

Natural mutation accelerated by biker chick lap dances!

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by Ducbutter

Kristian Anderson put the lie to this garbage in Feb. 2020 when he emailed Fauci and informed him that the virus looked engineered to him.

So you're theory is that about a year ago someone told Faki Fauci that the Covid19 cells "looked engineered" and Faki Fauci assumed it was true .... ?

... you have unfounded, groundless assumptions in your theory!

One is, and IMO the most important, that Faki Fauci knew NOTHING about what was happening and/or not happening in that lab prior to that alleged email!

I guess the basis of your "theory" is that Faki Fauci like the Covid19 cells were pooped out of a bat's ass sometime in late January 2020! I know Faki Fauci is shit, but I wouldn't insult a bat.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by Tiny

Don't be silly adav8s28, LexusLover doesn't read, he posts. He posts a lot.

So you know how much I read and don't read? That's interesting.

Actually, all you just did is demonstrate that you LIE!

"MIT"?

The first wave of government held documents regarding THE COVID19 LAB in China were released this past November (2020) after a court ordered their release. About six weeks ago some were SHOWN on a television news show (as opposed to being described like is done over on your favorite shows!). First, the discussion in the documents of Fauci and the Obama administration was given special attention. Subsequently, the discussion of the dangers of ENHANCING CELLS in the lab by modifying their DNA was shown in the docs (rather than discussed) along with the expressed concerns of Obama that led to him ordering taxpayer funds to be withheld BACK IN 2014!

When the rest of the documents are released ... go hide or pretend you said all along they cells were created......I now call that "Faucism" ... attempting to revise what one said after it's shown to be bullshit. The other documents shown contained discussions of Faki Fauci's private/donation funding in 2017 to replace the withdrawn U.S. funds. And you two clowns believe Fauci didn't know what was happening in the lab?

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

Natural mutation accelerated by biker chick lap dances!

Hahahahahaha............

[Ducbutter]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

So you're theory is that about a year ago someone told Faki Fauci that the Covid19 cells "looked engineered" and Faki Fauci assumed it was true .... ?

... you have unfounded, groundless assumptions in your theory!

One is, and IMO the most important, that Faki Fauci knew NOTHING about what was happening and/or not happening in that lab prior to that alleged email!

I guess the basis of your "theory" is that Faki Fauci like the Covid19 cells were pooped out of a bat's ass sometime in late January 2020! I know Faki Fauci is shit, but I wouldn't insult a bat.

So, you seem to have completely missed the point. What I was getting at is that the virus was seen to have been at least potentially engineered. adav8s28 was trying to tell us that the virus structure was natural. That is clearly not true per Anderson. adav8s28 is misinformed.
Fauci lied if he said anything different. He knew it had been manipulated in the lab.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

So you know how much I read and don't read? That's interesting.

Actually, all you just did is demonstrate that you LIE!

"MIT"?

The first wave of government held documents regarding THE COVID19 LAB in China were released this past November (2020) after a court ordered their release. About six weeks ago some were SHOWN on a television news show (as opposed to being described like is done over on your favorite shows!). First, the discussion in the documents of Fauci and the Obama administration was given special attention. Subsequently, the discussion of the dangers of ENHANCING CELLS in the lab by modifying their DNA was shown in the docs (rather than discussed) along with the expressed concerns of Obama that led to him ordering taxpayer funds to be withheld BACK IN 2014!

When the rest of the documents are released ... go hide or pretend you said all along they cells were created......I now call that "Faucism" ... attempting to revise what one said after it's shown to be bullshit. The other documents shown contained discussions of Faki Fauci's private/donation funding in 2017 to replace the withdrawn U.S. funds. And you two clowns believe Fauci didn't know what was happening in the lab?

A virus is not a cell. I don't believe I've ever speculated as to whether Fauci did or did not know what was happening in laboratories.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by Ducbutter

Kristian Anderson put the lie to this garbage in Feb. 2020 when he emailed Fauci and informed him that the virus looked engineered to him.

Apparently Kristian Andersen changed his mind. This is from a May 27, 2021 article in Nature,

Kristian Andersen, a virologist at Scripps Research in La Jolla, California, maintains that no strong evidence supports a lab leak, and he worries that hostile demands for an investigation into the WIV will backfire, because they often sound like allegations. He says this could make Chinese scientists and officials less likely to share information. Other virologists suggest that such sentiments could lead to more scrutiny of US grants for research projects conducted in China. They point to a coronavirus project run by a US non-profit organization and the WIV that was abruptly suspended last year after the US National Institutes of Health pulled its funding. Without such collaborations, says Andersen, scientists will have difficulty discovering the source of the pandemic.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01383-3

[Ducbutter]

Originally Posted by Tiny

Apparently Kristian Andersen changed his mind. This is from a May 27, 2021 article in Nature,

Kristian Andersen, a virologist at Scripps Research in La Jolla, California, maintains that no strong evidence supports a lab leak, and he worries that hostile demands for an investigation into the WIV will backfire, because they often sound like allegations. He says this could make Chinese scientists and officials less likely to share information. Other virologists suggest that such sentiments could lead to more scrutiny of US grants for research projects conducted in China. They point to a coronavirus project run by a US non-profit organization and the WIV that was abruptly suspended last year after the US National Institutes of Health pulled its funding. Without such collaborations, says Andersen, scientists will have difficulty discovering the source of the pandemic.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01383-3

I'm aware of that.
Brett Weinstein mentioned Andersen's flip in one of the podcasts he and his wife put out. Don't want to misquote Weinstein but I recall he was not pleased. I'm trying to locate it but there's a lot of ground to cover there. I definitely recommend their podcasts. Weinstein and Heying are both pure scientists who are committed to following science without respect to politics or social pressures. I would challenge anyone to find two folks with more qualifications or integrity in the field. Their podcast is available on YouTube and named The Darkhorse Podcast.

[winn dixie]

The chinese wuhan virus is an engineered biological weapon.

[bambino]

Originally Posted by winn dixie

The chinese wuhan virus is an engineered biological weapon.

True.

[winn dixie]

Originally Posted by bambino

True.

Yes Bam! Some of us have said this from the beginning.

Crow is being prepared and heated up.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by Ducbutter

I'm aware of that.
Brett Weinstein mentioned Andersen's flip in one of the podcasts he and his wife put out. Don't want to misquote Weinstein but I recall he was not pleased. I'm trying to locate it but there's a lot of ground to cover there. I definitely recommend their podcasts. Weinstein and Heying are both pure scientists who are committed to following science without respect to politics or social pressures. I would challenge anyone to find two folks with more qualifications or integrity in the field. Their podcast is available on YouTube and named The Darkhorse Podcast.

As you know I'm on the same page with adav8s28 on this. However, hypothetically suppose that Andersen leans toward believing that COVID 19 is the product of gain of function research in the Wuhan lab. What's he going to say? If he and other colleagues piss off the Chinese, then they're potentially cut off from getting any information out of China or working with the Chinese to make the world a safer place. You've got a lot of people in China living on top of each other, wet markets, etc. It's a breeding ground for deadly viruses. Here are WHO updates on ones since 2000:

https://www.who.int/csr/don/archive/country/chn/en/