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[matchingmole]

The question was pretty simple...but he could not provide an answer at any time today. Somebody posted some biased article about chicken pluckers. Hardly relevant to my question. Field work is not the same as fowl processing in these fowl times.

[matchingmole]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Your equivocation doesn't change the fact that Cesar Chavez was the American field worker competing with illegals, or is that fundamental fact beyond your very dwarfed intellectual grasp?




Your "white" qualifier is racist bullshit.

Furthermore, Chavez's struggle with illegals echoed Samuel Gompers' exact sentiments from a century earlier. So, your "time qualifier" is equally bullshit.

Coretta Scott King argued exactly the same thing as Samuel Gompers and Cesar Chavez, and their credibility as subject matter experts trumps yours every damn day of the week.

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I agree that Chavez was a field worker

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by matchingmole

The question was pretty simple...but he could not provide an answer at any time today. Somebody posted some biased article about chicken pluckers. Hardly relevant to my question. Field work is not the same as fowl processing in these fowl times.

You were definitively answered. It's hardly relevant that you demonstrated that you cannot handle truth and facts.

Originally Posted by matchingmole

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I agree that Chavez was a field worker

Chavez was an AMERICAN agricultural worker who struggled to keep illegals from driving down wages for American workers.

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

But Odumbo says you'd be a disingenuous liar:

How so? I think if he were here today, he’d remind everyone that it’s an intergalactic offense to hijack a thread more than once,

And did you actually dredge up the classic marathon ass whipping handed out on the Coretta Scott King quote?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

(I knew it ... you are jealous of all the conspiracy meltdown attention oeb and his vigorously ignored sidekick are getting. How sweet! )

[matchingmole]

He was a field worker
He is not a field worker




See any difference?


It is relevant that you can't provide any truth or facts to back up your theory.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

How so? I think if he were here today, he’d remind everyone that it’s an intergalactic offense to hijack a thread more than once,

And did you actually dredge up the classic marathon ass whipping handed out on the Coretta Scott King quote?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

(I knew it ... you are jealous of all the conspiracy meltdown attention oeb and his vigorously ignored sidekick are getting. How sweet! )

Coretta Scott King has greater credibility than your uninformed opinion.

Originally Posted by matchingmole

He was a field worker
He is not a field worker
See any difference?
It is relevant that you can't provide any truth or facts to back up your theory.

You have failed to post substantive proof that Cesar Chavez's passing changed the economic reality of illegals driving down wages for American workers.

[matchingmole]

Will Ramses III be golfing in Thebes this September?

[matchingmole]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Coretta Scott King has greater credibility than your uninformed opinion.



You have failed to post substantive proof that Cesar Chavez's passing changed the economic reality of illegals driving down wages for American workers.

No wonder...I didn't try to prove that.. Your proof that US citizens are clamoring to work picking vegetable is somewhat lacking....one could say non existent Chavez was an American citizen...no debate about that

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by matchingmole

No wonder...I didn't try to prove that

You have failed to post substantive proof that Cesar Chavez's passing changed the economic reality of illegals driving down wages for American workers.

[matchingmole]

No wonder...I didn't try to prove that.. Your proof that US citizens are clamoring to work picking vegetables is somewhat lacking....one could say non existent Chavez was an American citizen...no debate about that

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by matchingmole

No wonder...I didn't try to prove that.. Your proof that US citizens are clamoring to work picking vegetables is somewhat lacking....one could say non existent Chavez was an American citizen...no debate about that

Chavez and King were anti-illegal immigration. Are you?


the world awaits your reply.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by matchingmole

No wonder...I didn't try to prove that.. Your proof that US citizens are clamoring to work picking vegetables is somewhat lacking....one could say non existent Chavez was an American citizen...no debate about that

You wanted an example of an American agricultural worker struggling against the depressed wages caused by head-to-head competition with illegals, and I fucking gave you that example -- then you duplicitously moved the goal posts and disingenuously pretend you weren't answered.

But everyone here can see you're being dishonest and lying.

Now you proffer more straw man bullshit about Americans "clamoring" for low paying agricultural work when it was explained in great detail to your duplicitous self that illegals have made such work unprofitable for Americans to compete in that industry.

It remains that YOU have substantively FAILED to disprove the ECON 101 fundamental law of supply and demand: too much exploitable labor in the labor market drives down the costs (i.e., wages) of labor. Hence, a surfeit of illegal labor has a negative impact on the wages of American workers.

[matchingmole]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

Chavez and King were anti-illegal immigration. Are you?


the world awaits your reply.

I would prefer that there were no illegal immigrants here at all...from any countries.I agree with Chavez and King .Pakistanis aren't picking our crops.neither are US born citizens. Many second generation migrants (from Latin American Countries) don't want to do that work either. I saw a Show..Mythbusters or something where the host a fairly young dude tried to pick oranges for three days...he never made it past the first..Could not hack it.
The bigger question is how could US agriculture stay in business if citizens were compensated at a rate to make working in the fields viable.If workers were paid an attractive wage....how much would the prices go up. So much that the US growers couldn't compete...and we would have to import from Chile, Argentina or China. The US growers have made profits by exploiting desperate illegal aliens. They should not hire illegals

[matchingmole]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

You wanted an example of an American agricultural worker struggling against the depressed wages caused by head-to-head competition with illegals, and I fucking gave you that example -- then you duplicitously moved the goal posts and disingenuously pretend you weren't answered.

But everyone here can see you're being dishonest and lying.

Now you proffer more straw man bullshit about Americans "clamoring" for low paying agricultural work when it was explained in great detail to your duplicitous self that illegals have made such work unprofitable for Americans to compete in that industry.

It remains that YOU have substantively FAILED to disprove the ECON 101 fundamental law of supply and demand: too much exploitable labor in the labor market drives down the costs (i.e., wages) of labor. Hence, a surfeit of illegal labor has a negative impact on the wages of American workers.

I wasn't trying to disprove that....

[eccielover]

Again, plain and simple its a bullshit fallacy to claim there are no US citizens that would do the various jobs. Almost no sectors are majority illegals or even immigrants in general. Thus any illegal working would in essence be displacing a job a US legal citizen or immigrant might do. Simple logic folks.


https://cis.org/Report/There-Are-No-...ricans-Wont-Do

If immigrants "do jobs that Americans won't do", we should be able to identify occupations in which the workers are nearly all foreign-born. However, among the 474 separate occupations defined by the Department of Commerce, we find only a handful of majority-immigrant occupations, and none completely dominated by immigrants (legal or illegal). Furthermore, in none of the 474 occupations do illegal immigrants constitute a majority of workers.