Before the myth sets in: Romney was right, Crowley was wrong, and Obama lied

[CuteOldGuy]

Can't handle the fact that Obama lied about this incident for weeks, can you?

[chefnerd]

I know this will not change many minds since most have their unshakeable opinion already etched in stone and absolutely nothing factual will change that. Seems that the fact checkers rate Romney's statement half-true at best. These all agree that Obama did refer to the Benghazi as a terrorist attack on 9/12, however they also point out that various parts of the administration were no quite on the same page for awhile.

http://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-stu...-election.html

http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/17/politi...html?hpt=hp_t2

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...-libya-attack/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19980164

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by chefnerd

I know this will not change many minds since most have their unshakeable opinion already etched in stone and absolutely nothing factual will change that. Seems that the fact checkers rate Romney's statement half-true at best. These all agree that Obama did refer to the Benghazi as a terrorist attack on 9/12, however they also point out that various parts of the administration were no quite on the same page for awhile.

http://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-stu...-election.html

http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/17/politi...html?hpt=hp_t2

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...-libya-attack/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19980164

Crowley back-pedals her ass off here:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=athcyCTnTTs



When did Obama label consulate attack "terror"?
During the second presidential debate, President Obama said he called the attack on the U.S. Consulate in Libya an "act of terror" within 24 hours of the attack - a new explanation that triggered a clash between Romney, the president and the debate moderator.

CBS journalist Jan Crawford reports.

“In Sept. 12 remarks in the White House Rose Garden reacting to the Libya attack, Mr. Obama did refer generally to "acts of terror," though he didn't specifically call the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi an act of terrorism.

“‘No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for,’ Mr. Obama said. ‘Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done.’

“It's true that the administration, including U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice, maintained for several days that the attack was spontaneous and the result of protests over an inflammatory anti-Muslim video. Meanwhile, CBS News reported on Sept. 12 that the assault appeared to be a planned terrorist attack.

“In his speech to the U.N. General Assembly on Sept. 25, Mr. Obama did not give any indication that the attack was an act of terrorism, instead repeatedly referencing the anti-Muslim YouTube video that allegedly spurred spontaneous protests.”

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?...344n&tag=strip



Of course, yesterday was already a painful day for our nation as we marked the solemn memory of the 9/11 attacks. We mourned with the families who were lost on that day. I visited the graves of troops who made the ultimate sacrifice in Iraq and Afghanistan at the hallowed grounds of Arlington Cemetery, and had the opportunity to say thank you and visit some of our wounded warriors at Walter Reed. And then last night, we learned the news of this attack in Benghazi.

As Americans, let us never, ever forget that our freedom is only sustained because there are people who are willing to fight for it, to stand up for it, and in some cases, lay down their lives for it. Our country is only as strong as the character of our people and the service of those both civilian and military who represent us around the globe.

No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for.

Read more: GREEN: Factcheck Obama: did not call Benghazi 'act of terror' - Washington
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/...#ixzz29WgwjsWp

[TexTushHog]

Originally Posted by Jackie S

Has anybody noticed that by falling on Her sword for Her Boss, Hillary probably threw away any hope of ever being President.

You're beyond delusional. It's a non-story.

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Can't handle the fact that Obama lied about this incident for weeks, can you?

Why don't you just say he lied for thousands of minutes?

[JD Barleycorn]

Americans died and Obama lied.

[Yssup Rider]

Actually that's a statement about Bush. Frankly you guys have so desensitized the public to lying that its not anything more than an intellectual cop out. That's one commandment down, nine to go.

We've got three weeks.

Wanna go for coveting? Ooops! Guess Mitt doesn't play by same rules.

[JD Barleycorn]

Pay attention. I cleverly reversed the order so that it applies to Obama. All the work I do and you don't even notice.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by TexTushHog

You're beyond delusional. It's a non-story.

Wishful thinking.

Only a "non-story" because the biased media won't cover it.

"Candy" is struggling to salvage what little credibility she has left, after having been previously reminded by the debate organizers to remain a moderator and keep her opinions to herself. Having not followed their instructions she has facilitated the lie.

Obaminable will have another opportunity to "man up" next week.

[i'va biggen]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

Pay attention. I cleverly reversed the order so that it applies to Obama. All the work I do and you don't even notice.

Great avatar a dead pussy...

[joe bloe]

Originally Posted by chefnerd

I know this will not change many minds since most have their unshakeable opinion already etched in stone and absolutely nothing factual will change that. Seems that the fact checkers rate Romney's statement half-true at best. These all agree that Obama did refer to the Benghazi as a terrorist attack on 9/12, however they also point out that various parts of the administration were no quite on the same page for awhile.

Let's follow your line of "reasoning." Let's say that Obama did call the Benghazi attack an act of terrorism on 9/12. That means he knew it was terrorism essentially from the beginning. If he knew it was terrorism, why did he and his minions repeat over and over again for two weeks that it was simply an angry mob inflamed by a video and NOT TERRORISM.

If we believe that Obama has been telling the complete truth about Benghazi, as he sees it, we have to believe that he initially thought it was terrorism on 9/12, and then changed his mind, and believed it was not terrorism, and then changed his mind again and now believes it was terrorism.

If we take Obama at his word, we have to conclude he is very confused. I do not take Obama at his word. I don't believe he's confused about Benghazi; I believe he's lying.

Next Monday night, Romney is going to make it clear to the whole country that Obama is a liar.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by joe bloe

Let's follow your line of "reasoning." Let's say that Obama did call the Benghazi attack an act of terrorism on 9/12. That means he knew it was terrorism essentially from the beginning. If he knew it was terrorism, why did he and his minions repeat over and over again for two weeks that it was simply an angry mob inflamed by a video and NOT TERRORISM.

If we believe that Obama has been telling the complete truth about Benghazi, as he sees it, we have to believe that he initially thought it was terrorism on 9/12, and then changed his mind, and believed it was not terrorism, and then changed his mind again and now believes it was terrorism.

If we take Obama at his word, we have to conclude he is very confused. I do not take Obama at his word. I don't believe he's confused about Benghazi; I believe he's lying.

Next Monday night, Romney is going to make it clear to the whole country that Obama is a liar.

+1

[Whirlaway]

CNN ADMITS THAT CROWLEY’S DISREGARD OF THE RULES WAS INTENDED TO HELP OBAMA

CNN’s memo explaining why Candy Crowley permitted President Obama to speak four minutes more than Mitt Romney during Tuesday’s presidential debate is devastating to that network: On why Obama got more time to speak, it should be noted that Candy and her commission producers tried to keep it even but that Obama went on longer largely because he speaks more slowly... »

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archive...help-obama.php

[joe bloe]

Originally Posted by TexTushHog

You're beyond delusional. It's a non-story.

You're the one who's delusional. Obama has been caught in a shameful lie and it's going to cost him the White House. Crowley lied on Obama's behalf, because he was about to be destroyed in the debate. She didn't jeopardize her career, because of a non-story.

Romney will finish Obama off Monday night; Obama won't have Crowley's skirt to hide behind.

[markroxny]

SEPTEMBER 12: Romney gives a press conference to clarify his initial press release accusing Obama of sympathizing with the attackers.The full transcript of the event shows that he never used the words “terror,” “terrorism,” or “al-Qaeda.” That was Romney’s first statement on the event since the initial release the night before. Roughly 30 minutes afterwards, Obama used the phrase “acts of terror” to describe Benghazi in his Rose Garden remarks.
SEPTEMBER 13: The President used the same phrase to describe the attacks at a September 13 at a campaign event. Romney also addressed the tragedy in Libya at a campaign event, but the on-site reporting (the campaign does not appear to have provided a transcript) does not mention him referring to the attacks as terrorism and, moreover, suggests that Romney did not directly challenge the administration’s approach (semantic or otherwise) to the events.
SEPTEMBER 19: Matt Olsen, director of the National Counterterrorism Center, says “[Americans] were killed in the course of a terrorist attack on our embassy.”
SEPTEMBER 20: Romney spokesperson Ryan Williams says “Governor Romney believes our immediate priority in Libya is to track down and bring to justice those terrorists who brutally murdered our diplomats. The attack is a clear reminder that terrorists, particularly those linked to Al Qaeda, remain a grave threat and one that is growing in North Africa.” White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said “It is, I think, self-evident that what happened in Benghazi was a terrorist attack.”
SEPTEMBER 25: Romney tells Fox that “That’s an act of terror. But the White House doesn’t want to admit it.”