For people who still believe the 2020 election was legit.

[Jacuzzme]

Making it easy to vote makes it easy to cheat. There should be a rigorous process of verification for each voter to insure it’s a legitimate outcome that can not be disputed. We do not have that at the present time.

[HDGristle]

So you're for mandatory national ID's and showing your papers

[tommy156]

Originally Posted by berryberry

Ummm you did. But if it makes you feel better here you go

You supported killing someone you disagree with. That is utterly despicable and explains a hell of a lot about your posts and speaks volumes about you

But we all know if you support killing one person, in this case the former President, you would support killing others you disagree with.

You're going to pull a hamstring jumping to conclusions that quickly. Settle down, berry boy.

[tommy156]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

So you're for mandatory national ID's and showing your papers

They all claim to love "freedom" but they don't really know what it means.

[Jacuzzme]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

So you're for mandatory national ID's and showing your papers

To vote? A state or federally issued ID should be required.

[HDGristle]

Originally Posted by tommy156

They all claim to love "freedom" but they don't really know what it means.

We can have freedom AND security without making it freedom OR security. Just have to be willing to compromise.

That includes you

[Jacuzzme]

Proving citizenship to vote doesn’t take away freedoms, it ensures yours aren’t canceled by someone not entitled to them.

[tommy156]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

We can have freedom AND security without making it freedom OR security. Just have to be willing to compromise.

That includes you

Of course it does. But threats to national security, like the trump cult, need to be identified and dealt with. Once they return to reality, I'd be happy to compromise with them. But not a moment sooner.

[Jacuzzme]

Really? How does it do that?

Most aren’t willing to compromise when it comes to our right to choose our representatives, regardless of the left’s desire to destroy our system of governance, and don’t give AF about your willingness to do so.

[HDGristle]

Originally Posted by tommy156

Of course it does. But threats to national security, like the trump cult, need to be identified and dealt with. Once they return to reality, I'd be happy to compromise with them. But not a moment sooner.

That's a conflation. Listen to where their concerns are, not just the what but which areas they're in

The right wants accuracy and security, but also want expediency and cost-effectiveness. Which means they already have to make some compromises, some of which are sunk so deeply they don't acknowledge what it costs us (not in terms of dollars)

What else do you see if you take off the partisan glasses for a moment.

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

Proving citizenship to vote doesn’t take away freedoms, it ensures yours aren’t canceled by someone not entitled to them.

Exactly. This is such a simple concept that I am amazed the leftists don't understand this.

But given you are addressing someone who earlier in this thread supported killing someone he disagreed with, well I am not sure you can reason with someone who posts something so utterly despicable

[HDGristle]

You support killing folks too. So stifle it, Edith, as far as the sanctimonious ad hominems

[Jacuzzme]

Supporting defending the country from invasion is a far cry from supporting assassination.

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

Supporting defending the country from invasion is a far cry from supporting assassination.

Exactly. A country has not only the right, but the obligation to defend itself against an invasion

[HDGristle]

Originally Posted by berryberry

Exactly. A country has not only the right, but the obligation to defend itself against an invasion

So it's now an obligation to kill. Got it. You've got no moral high ground while you're holding that shovel, btw.

So how about listening a bit instead of digging that hole even deeper?