Q for the Mods: Sharing my own reviews?

[Jusanotherdude]

Originally Posted by Sarunga

What is quite interesting is...how some (including a duderator) are singling-out BP, trying to figure out his mindset.

Nah.... you're reading something into my statemrthat simply isn't there. While Ender was responding directly to BP, mine and others were more globally stated with BP being perhaps the face of one side. (It's his thread after all)

[Guest082824]

Originally Posted by texasjohn1965

BP's list is a marketing tool for the hooktards, and he receives a benefit from it. He has gamed the system, and most of us are jealous that we didn't think of it first.

Ahhhh....TJ speaks the truth

[dearhunter]

BlowPup is entitled to an explanation of the way rules are going to be enforced. It is a legitimate question in light of the other threAD.

It is important to know and understand the rules.

I ignored BlowPup's list until I didn't..........he decided one day that he was the voice of opposition to the way some write around here......I fuck with that retarded list because I can........I understand the rules.......ijs

[Wakeup]

Originally Posted by dearhunter

This is not complicated........I said it in the other threAD.......BlowPup did not break a rule in sharing his ROS with theCFE........theCFE did break a rule in acknowledging that she knew what was in the ROS.

hooktards know all kinds of shit in areas of this board they are not supposed to have access to......their knowing is not something that can be addressed........their comments about knowing can be addressed.

I would disagree with one thing there. Blowpop did break a rule by sharing his ROS with theCFE. However, the rest of the board would never have known about him breaking the rule without either him or theCFE telling us about it, and as such, enforcement would have been impossible, which is the standing interpretation of the admins/mods.

The rule is very specific.

#20 - Each member is responsible for keeping the information in any of the private secure areas (Men's Lounge, Provider Powder Room, The Rest of the Story, posts which have been tagged as private) 100% restricted to the members who are intended to have access to that material. Revealing ANY content which was posted in one of the men's or women's private sections of the board will result in penalty, up to and including loss of your access to these areas.

You all are telling the board that it's NOT a violation to pass around ROS info to providers. That's incorrect. What you need to be saying is that "it's okay to pass around ROS info to providers as long as we don't ever hear about it on the board, because if we do, we have to punish those involved."

Blowpop passed information to a provider supposedly before he posted the review. He then posted that same information in ROS. The rule doesn't put a timeline on the infraction except for one word, "was", and that only applies to enforement, not the atual violation, but even if you choose to look at it that way, the information was still given to members who were not "intended to have access to it", regardless of when it became restricted information.

The admins aren't saying "feel free to pass around ROS info", they can't, that's in direct violation if their own rules. What they're saying is "pass around ROS info all you want, but we better not hear about it here."

The difference in interpretation is a direct result of the ability to enforce the rule, not a direct compliance with the rule itself. Blowpop was in violation of the rule, but the admins have chosen to enforce an interpretation which differs from the rule. Not a problem, as long as its known.

So, for the record guys...

Give out ROS, Locker Room, Men's Lounge info all you want...just don't talk about it...

[dearhunter]

I would agree except that he shared it before it became ROS.........it is like signing day for college ball.......he was all goosy about LSU......but, until he signed on the bottom line they don't own his ass.

[dearhunter]

The sad commentary in all of this is that BlowPup stands on a pedestal and declares that what you do is a cancer to this board........when the true cancer is what he freely admits that he does........he is blind to it......or, he is too selfish to care.......it is what it is

[Wakeup]

And as I explained, that still violates the "restricted to members who are intended to have access to it" part. They were both members at the time of the exchange. The info itself, being posted on the board yet or not, was ultimately intended to to be restricted. It would be different if the info he gave her beforehand wasn't specifically intended to be restricted later on, but it was.

The admins have made it very clear that they don't intend to enforce the rule as written. I don't agree with it, but I don't have to. To me, a violation isn't a violation when it gets enforced, it's a violation when it's committed, regardless if it gets caught or not. The admins feel differently about the hobbyist portions of the board.

They protect the provider sections with a vengeance that rivals the gods they believe in, but not us. The reason for that is because some of us don't care about keeping info private like it should be...Blowpop being a perfect example of this.

[enderwiggin]

That's not what Pistolero wrote when he reported having gotten clarification. All the mealy-mouthed justifications set aside, the "correct" interpretation is that despite Forum Guidelines, you can share ROS.

[Wakeup]

Again, you can share ROS all you want, just don't let it get mentioned here that you did...

One more reason why we need a change in what is private and what isn't...

[enderwiggin]

It would appear it doesn't even matter if you tell people you share it. You can get caught. There are no repercussions.

And so, ECCIE is now broken.

[Wakeup]

I'm not assuming that Blowpop got off without points. Not my bailiwick. And again, if the admins choose not to enforce the rule as written, so be it.

I'm not fighting Chris on this one because I don't give a fuck about review ROS. I do give a fuck about LR info though. If he'd have said he did that, I'd jump in his ass with both feet. I leave this one to you guys to change things, I've done that enough for now.

[dearhunter]

I guess PistolPete (or one of the other Houston Modtards) could teach BlowPup a lesson and enforce the rule violation against theCFE.....ijs

The standard penalty for 1st offense of revealing the knowledge of ROS for a hooktard is a 2 week vacation when she gives up her source........it gets longer when she cops an attitude.

[Wakeup]

Except you wouldn't need theCFE to give up her source of ROS info...you already have it...and yes, that would teach him a lesson, as much as he wants to protect providers from "harm"...

What's interesting is that if, in the course of the investigation, theCFE revealed Blowpop as the source of the ROS info, and you contacted him and he said "I gave that to her before I posted it in private tags, or in the review, or in the LR", would he be off the hook?

Evidently so...that's a perfect line of defense I guess...

[Jusanotherdude]

Originally Posted by enderwiggin

And so, ECCIE is now broken.

Just now it is? Some may argue that it has been.....

The rule does read pretty specific.... I'm anxious to see what the admins/owners have to say on this....

[dearhunter]

Why would they say anything?

If the existing rule had been enforced at the time of the infraction, the hooktard would have learned to keep her fucking mouth shut.........and BlowPup would have been left holding a limp dick.

If you do it now, you are seen as punishing the hooktard for BlowPups potty mouth