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Old 01-30-2013, 03:18 PM   #91
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Old 01-30-2013, 03:19 PM   #92
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1. I haven't "convicted" anyone.

2. Gary Condit ? I know who he is; the comparison is stupid.


3. Menendez absolutely has the "right to keep his mouth shut." That is a statement of fact; you should be stating the obvious; he has the right, but is it for the public good and does it make for good politics? You left out his voters also have the right to ask questions and demand answers.

4. Your "because he does shows NO STANDARDS" comment makes no sense; who is he in your statement? I made that comment directed at BigTex.
So, he comes out and says: I do not have sex with an underaged person. The end.

The Gary Condit comparision is aboslutely relevant. The media hounded him and accused him of "hiding" by not confessing he killed her...while the police were saying he was cooperating and he was not a suspect.

Here:
"You don't have a right to know. He has a right to keep his mouth shut. And your "presumption of guilty" because he does shows NO STANDARDS."

Is that better?
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So, he comes out and says: I do not have sex with an underaged person. The end.
He already has said that. It changed nothing.
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Old 01-30-2013, 03:23 PM   #94
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He already has said that. It changed nothing.
Changed nothing to whom?
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Changed nothing to whom?
The folks who want him out of office without regard to innocence to guilt.

If I were him I wouldn't say a word to the police either. Let them gather evidence and either bring an indictment or not.

Just deny it in general terms in press releases, but otherwise don't talk to the cops.

The cops and prosecutors are not your friends. They are looking to get convictions. Especially the prosecutors, most of whom fancy themselves as potential candidates for mayor or governor one day. They just love to pad their resumes with high-profile convictions.
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Old 01-30-2013, 03:46 PM   #96
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Gary Condit was run out of office for having an affair with an intern. That came out in the murder investigation, where he was not charged.

I think Menendez is going down. No pun intended.
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Gary Condit was hounded out of office because he wasn't credible in his answers....if you recall he was caught in a lie regarding his affair. He lied to investigators and the public.
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Menendez is following that same pattern. Let's hope for the same results, except the press will be covering for him, instead of covering him.
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Good legal advice; poor political survival advice..the first rule of a political scandal is to tell the truth and get in front of the story and spin......

Lying or clamming up doesn't work in the political crisis world.

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If I were him I wouldn't say a word to the police either. Let them gather evidence and either bring an indictment or not.

Just deny it in general terms in press releases, but otherwise don't talk to the cops.

The cops and prosecutors are not your friends. They are looking to get convictions. Especially the prosecutors, most of whom fancy themselves as potential candidates for mayor or governor one day. They just love to pad their resumes with high-profile convictions.
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Good legal advice; poor political survival advice..the first rule of a political scandal is to tell the truth and get in front of the story and spin......

Lying or clamming up doesn't work in the political crisis world.
"I did NOT have sex with that woman... Miss Lewinsky."
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Lots of people don't think oral is having sex.
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:55 PM   #102
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Gary Condit was run out of office for having an affair with an intern.
By the time the election came the press had already labeled him her murderer.

He readily admitted the affair and his wife backed up.
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Lots of people don't think oral is having sex.
I suppose some of them believe it is tension release ....

... the rest believe it is vitamin injections.

Oral sex is not sex?
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Good legal advice; poor political survival advice..the first rule of a political scandal is to tell the truth and get in front of the story and spin......

Lying or clamming up doesn't work in the political crisis world.
It depends on the allegation ... arranging an internet date with an underage person is a federal felony ... minimum 15 years ... and each count (time) is mandatorily stacked. 2x = 30; 4x=60. Subject to lifetime intensive supervision upon release.
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... the rest believe it is vitamin injections.

Oral sex is not sex?
only if its uncovered
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