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07-17-2013, 11:02 AM
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Well aren't you generalizing. I don't vote along party lines but have voted democrat the last several election because they were the best choice. I voted for clinton both times and obama both times and thought bush was the worst president we have ever had.
Good black kids (not punks like martin) get killed everyday by black gang members and drug dealers and it doesn't even make the news. That is the real problem. If you want to make a change, make a change there.
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So It seems the reason you side with Zimmerman is because of Martins crimminal record? Have you looked at Zimmermans? He is a lunatic that was refused from the Police department and his Daddy has gotten out of all kinds of trouble. Among those charges are Domestic violence and Battery of a Police officer. Martin on the other hand has no record of violence besides a high school fight.
Zimmerman followed him because he was black like the kids he exclaimed had been stealing things in the area. Had he minded his own business. Martin would be in summer school and Zimmerman would still be looking for his first kill.
Another thing left out seems to be the law say says you cannot carry a gun when acting as a watch person. So he said he was not working as a watch person at the time yet he followed and confronted him.
This case is not about some black punk got killed its about privileged people get away with murder.
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07-17-2013, 02:31 PM
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So It seems the reason you side with Zimmerman is because of Martins crimminal record? Have you looked at Zimmermans? He is a lunatic that was refused from the Police department and his Daddy has gotten out of all kinds of trouble. Among those charges are Domestic violence and Battery of a Police officer. Martin on the other hand has no record of violence besides a high school fight.
Zimmerman followed him because he was black like the kids he exclaimed had been stealing things in the area. Had he minded his own business. Martin would be in summer school and Zimmerman would still be looking for his first kill.
Another thing left out seems to be the law say says you cannot carry a gun when acting as a watch person. So he said he was not working as a watch person at the time yet he followed and confronted him.
This case is not about some black punk got killed its about privileged people get away with murder.
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So privileged people get turned down by the police force, and are half Latino?
I wonder how many half Latino wanna be cops consider themselves the privileged class?
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07-17-2013, 05:26 PM
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So privileged people get turned down by the police force, and are half Latino?
I wonder how many half Latino wanna be cops consider themselves the privileged class?
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Come on dude is that all you got? Putting a spin on my comments only shows your unable to respond to them.
He is "privileged" by the fact his daddy is a judge. Another example would be OJ.( Personally I think he was innocent and covering for his crazy son.) He took the hot seat and beat the rap with money and power.
In either of these cases had it been you or me we would have been spending the next 20 or so in jail. Look at all the money that was sent to Zimmerman well before the case got all that big even. He even tried to steal his own money at one point or was it his dads to start with.
The only other person(s) that would throw that much money down would have been the NRA.
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07-17-2013, 08:10 PM
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Maybe for some prosecutors its better to swing for the fences than to settle for a base hit or a double. Just a theory ...
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And I get that. But, jeez, to get off scot-free?! Murder, no; stupidity, yes.
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07-17-2013, 10:28 PM
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Come on dude is that all you got? Putting a spin on my comments only shows your unable to respond to them.
He is "privileged" by the fact his daddy is a judge. Another example would be OJ.( Personally I think he was innocent and covering for his crazy son.) He took the hot seat and beat the rap with money and power.
In either of these cases had it been you or me we would have been spending the next 20 or so in jail. Look at all the money that was sent to Zimmerman well before the case got all that big even. He even tried to steal his own money at one point or was it his dads to start with.
The only other person(s) that would throw that much money down would have been the NRA.
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OJ was definitely the privileged class in his first trial, but Zimmerman was a nobody and his daddy was as best a minor league small time judge. Plus, he was broke and once again, half Hispanic. He had to beg for the money for his defense, and his wife may get nicked for perjury about the situation. I like Hispanics but don't know that any of them consider themselves from the privileged class unless they were very wealthy.
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07-18-2013, 10:49 AM
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So what does that have to do with Zimmerman chasing Martin? Zimmerman was in the wrong to go after Martin with a gun on him. Not only by the law pertaining to watchmen but by the stand your ground law.
Its not like Martin saw Zimmerman and went towards him. He tried to evade him. The encounter was because of Zimmerman's actions.
I also think you show prejudice by stating she was interviewed by a AA man.
Not all AA men are liberals or support Martin. By stating that, you imply that he must be a Liberal/Martrin supporter cause he is black. I agree, "whitey" isn't the problem here its gun fanatics.
What is funny is the 2nd amendment nuts don't realize that now there is gonna be an outcry for the gun laws to be changed and the "liberals" are going to use this case as an example. The law as it was applied (or not)here is giving people the right to kill.
Remember the Police refused him because they knew he was gun happy. By the way I carry a gun so don't think I am anti gun. But I dam sure leave it home on hobby days. I also don't take anywhere that is questionable.
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07-18-2013, 11:04 AM
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OJ was definitely the privileged class in his first trial, but Zimmerman was a nobody and his daddy was as best a minor league small time judge. Plus, he was broke and once again, half Hispanic. He had to beg for the money for his defense, and his wife may get nicked for perjury about the situation. I like Hispanics but don't know that any of them consider themselves from the privileged class unless they were very wealthy.
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Just because someone is broke does not mean they have no power. Zimmerman had all the money he needed to defend himself. When he said he was broke he had over 200k in the bank.
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07-18-2013, 02:17 PM
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Just because someone is broke does not mean they have no power. Zimmerman had all the money he needed to defend himself. When he said he was broke he had over 200k in the bank.
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I disagree. A broke guy has no power, assuming he isn't an elected official. See how nice the girls are at BDD if you have no money. Everyone knows that as a man, you are only as good as your last envelope. Nobody gives a shit about you otherwise.
The money was in a legal defense fund and I'm betting it was spoken for by his attorney, who seemed to know his shit.
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07-18-2013, 02:51 PM
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I disagree. A broke guy has no power, assuming he isn't an elected official. See how nice the girls are at BDD if you have no money. Everyone knows that as a man, you are only as good as your last envelope. Nobody gives a shit about you otherwise.
The money was in a legal defense fund and I'm betting it was spoken for by his attorney, who seemed to know his shit.
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You are wrong. His dad was a Judge and had access to the funds. At one point he was trying to get his wife to withdraw cash and get his hidden Visa. I do not understand why he is not being charged with perjury at the least. He lied about being broke and he surrendered a copy off his visa and claimed he had lost the original. Remember they withdrew his bail? http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...out-money.html
AS for BDD be a manager, own a car lot or some other thing else they need and tell what you say is true. I remember my first hobby experience was you scratch my back I will scratch yours. I have got lots of pussy without spending a dime and it aint my looks
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07-18-2013, 05:00 PM
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You are wrong. His dad was a Judge and had access to the funds. At one point he was trying to get his wife to withdraw cash and get his hidden Visa. I do not understand why he is not being charged with perjury at the least. He lied about being broke and he surrendered a copy off his visa and claimed he had lost the original. Remember they withdrew his bail? http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...out-money.html
AS for BDD be a manager, own a car lot or some other thing else they need and tell what you say is true. I remember my first hobby experience was you scratch my back I will scratch yours. I have got lots of pussy without spending a dime and it aint my looks
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If you get lots of pussy without spending a dime and it ain't your looks, you have me beat, unless of course the girls are fat and ugly, then it don't count. If you get young, skinny and pretty for free, and you don't have good looks, you da man!
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07-19-2013, 06:08 AM
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Money talks, power stalks and everything else walks...in life, hobby, everything. Just the way the world works.
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07-19-2013, 02:35 PM
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With the Stand Your Ground law, the gunfighter scenes you see in Westerns are legal again. If you can get someone who is carrying to reach for or draw their gun, you can make a case that your life is in danger and you can shoot them dead. If they shoot you first, they can make the same claim.
Tell me that isn't fucked up, in 2013.
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07-19-2013, 08:48 PM
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...Zimmerman was in the wrong to go after Martin with a gun on him...Its not like Martin saw Zimmerman and went towards him. He tried to evade him. The encounter was because of Zimmerman's actions."
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How do you know it went down like that? I haven't read nor heard definitively who attacked whom.
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07-20-2013, 09:07 PM
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1. Zimmerman had a concealed carry license. He WAS carrying legally. 2. 911 dispatcher had no authority over Zimmerman. 3. The jury found him not guilty. 4. There will be no civil suit, Zimmerman would win. In Florida, the plaintiffs, if they lose are responsible for the defendant's attorney fees.
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