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Old 09-27-2017, 07:26 AM   #91
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Now THAT is tragic.. and makes me question how smart they really are. Sex is 90% between the ears....
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Old 09-27-2017, 08:22 AM   #92
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And 1.3% in between the legs....
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Old 09-27-2017, 08:58 AM   #93
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Now THAT is tragic.. and makes me question how smart they really are. Sex is 90% between the ears....


I prefer it between my penis and her vagina and mouth. But that's me.
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Old 09-27-2017, 08:58 AM   #94
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To the original poster, the only women I've seen for more than 300 are skilled beyond skilled as in can deep throat, anal is included, and they are super fit with abs.

One of my providers let's me fuck her so deep in anal that I enter her colon and she has abs. That is a unique experience.

Another one did a naked hand stand, which was pretty cool.

I don't really care about heels, can you throw down in the sack is the reason we are here.

Aleisha the freak is less than $300 per hour and she licks ass like it's going out of style.
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Old 09-27-2017, 09:26 AM   #95
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Now I will say this-- while some people are going to comment on the body thing (heck, even I have) in reality.. it isn't as big a deal in the grand scheme of things. There are several ladies who are much larger than the OP who are in the 700-1000 range and do pretty well for themselves.

There is a market for everything.. the bigger question is finding that market and marketing for it appropriately. I've personally found that being between fit and BBW is one of the hardest spaces to be in. Too big for the guys who want fit... too small for the guys who want BBW. Its a bitch and you have to learn to do it right. I'm fortunate that I can at least claim the "mature" tag.
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Old 09-27-2017, 09:30 AM   #96
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What do you expect from Mid Range/High end providers?

When you do have a session with a provider that you have spent more than $300 on, what do you feel are some perks to that, if any?

Do you feel like they offered services other don't?

I know for myself, I try to be unique and do things like:
Being extremely professional, always arriving stylish, and in heels. Providing drinks, and a few other things..

To the ladies, is there anything you offer that is a staple for mid range? or things you would offer if your donation was higher?
When I was super new I would be on TER and reading reviews of the high-end ladies, trying to see the tricks that would make my services special, and I could afford to add.But since ECCIE reviews aren't available to providers, I'd rather pick ya'lls brains.

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Mid-Range: $300 to $500/600
I expect her to be looking REALLY hot, all dolled up (not overdone, just. nice), pretty much giving me a bit of a hard on before I even touch her.

I expect her to smell great, without the use of overbearing perfume, that she sprayed on her body somewhere, and when I kiss that body part and taste the perfume and be sick for two days afterward (in other words...no perfume, ladies).

I expect the room to be palatial, smelling good (candles or something), amenities for guys, mint and something to drink (small juice or water is fine).

MSOG (goes without saying)

Please turn the air down or off. I don't need cold air working against my blood flow, if you know what I mean. The room can be a little cool, not competing with the Arctic. Warm in the winter (goes without saying).
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Old 09-27-2017, 10:03 AM   #97
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In my opinion there are as many different answers to the question as there are types of hobbyists.

Fitness and flawless skin may be one man's $500 date while intellect and empathy may be another's.

Personally if I were a man, I'd be looking for consistency in TCB and menu items, discretion, a clean and safe incall, good hygiene, a good personality, and believable IOP in the $250-$350/H range.

$400 and up I'd want all of the above plus a banging body and an opulent incall or 5 star hotel.

$200/H and it's still a great visit but perhaps the incall is not the greatest or you only get one pop and you are never at her incall more than 55 minutes from the time your shoes cross the threshold. Maybe the IOP or TCB is lacking.

Under $200/ hour I'd say good luck!

These are my opinions and as such they reflect the way I've priced myself. I offer everything listed in the $250-$300/H range, show my guests a great and consistent time BCD and comfort them with little details like clean fluffy towels, men's body wash and spray, bottled water, fresh ice and a small selection of liquor, etc.

Hopefully my post will help any new providers struggling to raise the bar (and their rates!) and improve client satisfaction.

Side thought, providers may post topics like this in the ladies only areas to avoid male scrutiny and still receive great feedback.

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Old 09-27-2017, 10:14 AM   #98
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Why should you expect anything different if you splurge or not?
Quality is quality regardless of how much you pay.
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Old 09-27-2017, 10:14 AM   #99
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What do you expect from Mid Range/High end providers?

When you do have a session with a provider that you have spent more than $300 on, what do you feel are some perks to that, if any?

Do you feel like they offered services other don't?

I know for myself, I try to be unique and do things like:
Being extremely professional, always arriving stylish, and in heels. Providing drinks, and a few other things..

To the ladies, is there anything you offer that is a staple for mid range? or things you would offer if your donation was higher?
When I was super new I would be on TER and reading reviews of the high-end ladies, trying to see the tricks that would make my services special, and I could afford to add.But since ECCIE reviews aren't available to providers, I'd rather pick ya'lls brains.

To the best of my knowledge:
Mid-Range: $300 to $500/600
IMO, it does not matter on the amount, all providers need to provide, because that is what they are getting paid to do. And just because a provider has higher donation price ($300+/hr), that alone never has nor ever will mean that her looks, attitude, and/or her TCB and service skills are always going to be better than those whose donations are less than $300/hr.

Having said that, at the very least, I expect:

1. Physically attactive, in the face/body and shape of her body.

2. Above average TCB skills.

3. Enjoys what she does or is a damn good faker, aka passion/IOP.

4. BCD skills that not only make me feel glad I am a man, but more specifically, make me feel glad I chose her to do so rather than the 1000+ other providers I could have spent my money on.

It is one thing to get a single appointment from a hobbyist, yet it is quite another to get the repeat visit(s) from that same hobbyist.
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Old 09-27-2017, 10:16 AM   #100
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IMO, it does not matter on the amount, all providers need to provide, because that is what they are getting paid to do. And just because a provider has higher donation price ($300+/hr), that alone never has nor ever will mean that her looks, TCB and service skills are always going to be better than those whose donations are less than $300/hr.

Having said that, at the very least, I expect:

1. Physically attactive, in the face/body and shape of her body.

2. Above average TCB skills.

3. Enjoys what she does or is a damn good faker, aka passion/IOP.

4. BCD skills that not only make me feel glad I am a man, but more specifically, make me feel glad I chose her to do so rather than the 1000+ other providers I could have spent my money on.

It is one thing to get a single appointment from a hobbyist, yet it is quite another to get the repeat visit(s) from that same hobbyist.
I hear a roadrunner needs to be chased down. GET TO IT!!!!
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Old 09-27-2017, 10:16 AM   #101
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In my opinion there are as many different answers to the question as there are types of hobbyists.

Fitness and flawless skin may be one man's $500 date while intellect and empathy may be another's.

Personally if I were a man, I'd be looking for consistency in TCB and menu items, discretion, a clean and safe incall, good hygiene, a good personality, and believable IOP in the $250-$350/H range.

$400 and up I'd want all of the above plus a banging body and an opulent incall or 5 star hotel.

$200/H and it's still a great visit but perhaps the incall is not the greatest or you only get one pop and you are never at her incall more than 55 minutes from the time your shoes cross the threshold. Maybe the IOP or TCB is lacking.

Under $200/ hour I'd say good luck!

These are my opinions and as such they reflect the way I've priced myself. I offer everything listed in the $250-$300/H range, show my guests a great and consistent time BCD and comfort them with little details like clean fluffy towels, men's body wash and spray, bottled water, fresh ice and a small selection of liquor, etc.

Hopefully my post will help any new providers struggling to raise the bar (and their rates!) and improve client satisfaction.

Side thought, providers may post topics like this in the ladies only areas to avoid male scrutiny and still receive great feedback.

Your perception of providers in the $200 hour range is incorrect every provider sets there rate at which they seem as fit for there life.. Just because a provider has a lower rate doesn't automatically mean she is lacking in any area.

I don't want to be high dollar because those aren't the client's I seek not to mention my skills are BBBJ & DT.. I don't like extended visits it's just not me. Am I any less of quality than a provider who is $300 hour and they only thing she is known for is wine & dine & cuddle ? Absolutely not

I don't care what other providers charge because they don't make me money & I also don't doubt them for whatever price bracket they're in.

People let the price bracket mind fuck them into thinking about things that really aren't true.

But that's just my opinion..
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Old 09-27-2017, 11:48 AM   #102
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Your perception of providers in the $200 hour range is incorrect
I agree but some guys think that the more you pay, the better you get lol This hobby has no pricing regulations or no quality guidelines, so this is how hood rats with big $ dreams end up here thinking its easy
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Old 09-27-2017, 12:23 PM   #103
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Now I will say this-- while some people are going to comment on the body thing (heck, even I have) in reality.. it isn't as big a deal in the grand scheme of things. There are several ladies who are much larger than the OP who are in the 700-1000 range and do pretty well for themselves.

There is a market for everything.. the bigger question is finding that market and marketing for it appropriately. I've personally found that being between fit and BBW is one of the hardest spaces to be in. Too big for the guys who want fit... too small for the guys who want BBW. Its a bitch and you have to learn to do it right. I'm fortunate that I can at least claim the "mature" tag.


Your exactly how I like em. Not muscled up and not bbw. Just a little chubby. Some take offence to that term but I don't mean it that way, most of the time.
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Old 09-27-2017, 12:43 PM   #104
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No offense at all. Hoewver, I won't be chubby much longer. By the time I'm back, I should be pretty close to where I'd like to be.
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Old 09-27-2017, 02:20 PM   #105
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Nothing about what I said was underhanded. The fact that you took it as such tells me that you refuse to heed advice, even when it comes from people far more experienced and respected than you are.
unless you're falling down trying to suck her fat ass, she's going to take every criticism as underhanded.
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