OBAMA STATE OF THE UNION: MORE OF THE SAME BIG GOVERNMENT

[CuteOldGuy]

No. Gov. Christie (yes, that is how it is spelled) wanted the federal government to use the force of law and violence to extract funds from people across the country to help pay for his state's problem. Kind of defines a liberal, doesn't it?

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

No. Gov. Christie (yes, that is how it is spelled) wanted the federal government to use the force of law and violence to extract funds from people across the country to help pay for his state's problem. Kind of defines a liberal, doesn't it?

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[Yssup Rider]

Where did Christie actually threaten physical violence?

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

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IBH, eight years of Bush left the USA in the steepest recession since 1929 when Harding was president(the only difference was the soup lines). At least Obama got the USA out of the recession and he has kept the Bush tax cuts for the middle class. He is not trying to balance the budget off the backs of seniors by lowering their medicare and social security. The Ryan plan wants to give a tax cut to the one percent and lower the payments for social security and medicare for seniors. It makes you wonder why didn't Ryan bring in Wisconsin?

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

No. Gov. Christie (yes, that is how it is spelled) wanted the federal government to use the force of law and violence to extract funds from people across the country to help pay for his state's problem. Kind of defines a liberal, doesn't it?

No more liberal than when New Orleans received their money to rebuild after hurricane Katrina. Do you think New Orleans could have been rebuilt with just the local citizens fending for themselves? Ron Paul is "out of touch" and that is why he only got 66 delegates and went home right after Michelle Bachman.

[timpage]

Is this OP gonna hit 500 responses? What's the record? I just want to tell the silly old man.

[Texas Contrarian]

Originally Posted by flghtr65

IBH, eight years of Bush left the USA in the steepest recession since 1929 when Harding was president(the only difference was the soup lines). At least Obama got the USA out of the recession and he has kept the Bush tax cuts for the middle class. He is not trying to balance the budget off the backs of seniors by lowering their medicare and social security. The Ryan plan wants to give a tax cut to the one percent and lower the payments for social security and medicare for seniors. It makes you wonder why didn't Ryan bring in Wisconsin?

You found history class a great time to take a nap, huh?

(Harding died in 1923, and Coolidge succeeed him. Hoover assumed office in 1929.)

And not only is Obama not "trying to balance the budget on the backs of seniors," he isn't remotely serious about significant deficit reduction, let alone "balancing" the budget. That should be obvious to you if you've been paying attention for the last four years.

Don't tell me, let me guess: You think an economic "plan" limited to taxing the top one percent as much as possible, while failing to reform or fix anything else, and failing to cut spending in any area, is just fine and dandy.

Do I have that about right?

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by flghtr65

IBH, eight years of Bush left the USA in the steepest recession since 1929 when Harding was president(the only difference was the soup lines). At least Obama got the USA out of the recession and he has kept the Bush tax cuts for the middle class. He is not trying to balance the budget off the backs of seniors by lowering their medicare and social security. The Ryan plan wants to give a tax cut to the one percent and lower the payments for social security and medicare for seniors. It makes you wonder why didn't Ryan bring in Wisconsin?

And just what does your post have to do with Christie being a libertard RINO?

Just an FYI – here are some hard facts: 1) Note how there was GDP growth (see the graphs below) during most of Bush 43’s administration and that it did not go into a serious sustained decline until the housing crash. 2) Note also how Bush 43's debt to income ratio was not substantially different than Reagan's, Bush 41 or Slick Willie's 1st (pre-Republican Congress) term. 3) It’s a fact that the housing bust with its conjoined derivative market crash was the proverbial torpedo that sank the economy during Bush 43’s administration. 4) It’s a fact that Slick Willie the Perjuring Sexual Predator launched that torpedo in 1999 when he signed the Financial Services Modernization Act. This data refutes your juvenile notions about there being no growth during Bush 43’s administration and Bush 43 being solely responsible for the 2007-2009 recession.






http://money.usnews.com/money/blogs/...conomic-record


Oh, BTW, Republican Presidents Harding and Coolidge presided over a booming economy from 1921 to 1929: see chart below.

[Yssup Rider]

HARD FACTS! LMAO! Irrelevant bullshit for a change.

what do these HARD FACTS have to do with Governor Christie's political agenda?

IBRunning&Hiding, you are the master of the irrelevant argument!

I guess if you don't contest the premise, you don't have to be responsible for taking a stand! No wonder you've been anointed: CHICKENSHIT OF THE YEAR!

LMAO!

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

HARD FACTS! LMAO! Irrelevant bullshit for a change.

what do these HARD FACTS have to do with Governor Christie's political agenda?

IBRunning&Hiding, you are the master of the irrelevant argument!

I guess if you don't contest the premise, you don't have to be responsible for taking a stand! No wonder you've been anointed: CHICKENSHIT OF THE YEAR!

LMAO!

Did you hear a toilet flushing, Assup the jackass!?! No!!! That means you weren't being addressed, you puny pricked putz!!!

It was your libertard buddy, flghtr65, was being properly schooled, Assup the jackass. You flunked out, so go back to poking your pump-up plastic playmate, you puny pricked putz.

[Yssup Rider]

Oh, BTW -- What happened in 1929 after Harding and Coolidge brouht us so much prosperity, Mr. Irrelevant?

Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you IBRunning&Hiding, CHICKENSHIT OF THE YEAR!

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Oh, BTW -- What happened in 1929 after Harding and Coolidge brouht us so much prosperity, Mr. Irrelevant?

Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you IBRunning&Hiding, CHICKENSHIT OF THE YEAR!

Significant word, "after". flghtr65 was concerned with the Harding administration (and Coolidge was part of the Harding administration, btw), Assup the jackass. If you had the equivalent of a third grade education you might have figured that out, Assup the jackass, but then again, that's one of the reasons why you were elected:

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

And just what does your post have to do with Christie being a libertard RINO?

Just an FYI – here are some hard facts: 1) Note how there was GDP growth (see the graphs below) during most of Bush 43’s administration and that it did not go into a serious sustained decline until the housing crash. 2) Note also how Bush 43's debt to income ratio was not substantially different than Reagan's, Bush 41 or Slick Willie's 1st (pre-Republican Congress) term. 3) It’s a fact that the housing bust with its conjoined derivative market crash was the proverbial torpedo that sank the economy during Bush 43’s administration. 4) It’s a fact that Slick Willie the Perjuring Sexual Predator launched that torpedo in 1999 when he signed the Financial Services Modernization Act. This data refutes your juvenile notions about there being no growth during Bush 43’s administration and Bush 43 being solely responsible for the 2007-2009 recession.






http://money.usnews.com/money/blogs/...conomic-record


Oh, BTW, Republican Presidents Harding and Coolidge presided over a booming economy from 1921 to 1929: see chart below.

IBH, I did not say there was no growth. I said that at the end of Bush's eight years he left the USA in the steepest recession since 1929. I had a mistake who was president in 1929. It was Hoover not Harding (my bad). Despite all the nice graphs, the fact remains, that Bush came into office with a surplus and left the Federal government with over a Trillion Dollar deficit. It was stupid to lower taxes and start two wars. There was no reason to go to IRAQ, there were no WMD's and no link to Al-Quaida ever proven. To bring justice to those responsible for 9/11 he should have just went to AG. By lowering taxes he has no way to pay for the two wars or the Medicare D - prescription drug program he got passed. Why did Wall street collapse tradeing unregulated securities? Because the republicans believe in let Wall Stree Regulate it itself. Well they did and the result was Wall street had a financial meltdown. Lehman Brothers, AIG, Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae, Bear Stearns, Morgan Stanley and others collectively lost Billions tradeing these unregulated securities. So when Obama takes over, he inherits over a Trillion Dollars in debt, The Auto Industry on the verge of collapse, Most of the banks are bankrupt in addition to Wall Stree collapsing. The Stimulus package and the Bailouts that Obama did prevented a great depression and got the USA out of the recession. Under Obama the DJIA alone gained 7,000 points and got back to 14,000. Thanks to Obama's decisions the USA is not in a recession today. Republicans like Mitch McConnnell just can accept the truth.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by flghtr65

IBH, I did not say there was no growth. I said that at the end of Bush's eight years he left the USA in the steepest recession since 1929. I had a mistake who was president in 1929. It was Hoover not Harding (my bad). Despite all the nice graphs, the fact remains, that Bush came into office with a surplus and left the Federal government with over a Trillion Dollar deficit. It was stupid to lower taxes and start two wars. There was no reason to go to IRAQ, there were no WMD's and no link to Al-Quaida ever proven. To bring justice to those responsible for 9/11 he should have just went to AG. By lowering taxes he has no way to pay for the two wars or the Medicare D - prescription drug program he got passed. Why did Wall street collapse tradeing unregulated securities? Because the republicans believe in let Wall Stree Regulate it itself. Well they did and the result was Wall street had a financial meltdown. Lehman Brothers, AIG, Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae, Bear Stearns, Morgan Stanley and others collectively lost Billions tradeing these unregulated securities. So when Obama takes over, he inherits over a Trillion Dollars in debt, The Auto Industry on the verge of collapse, Most of the banks are bankrupt in addition to Wall Stree collapsing. The Stimulus package and the Bailouts that Obama did prevented a great depression and got the USA out of the recession. Under Obama the DJIA alone gained 7,000 points and got back to 14,000. Thanks to Obama's decisions the USA is not in a recession today. Republicans like Mitch McConnnell just can accept the truth.

Your words: "eight years of Bush left the USA in the steepest recession": implying 8 years of dearth and despair when that was obviously not the case. Your over-simplistic understanding and explanation of events continues to belie Slick Willie's overt and significant contribution to the financial melt-down. And the thing -- spending level exceeding incoming revenue -- for which you decry Bush 43 has only been exacerbated by Odumbo. Plus, the stock market is just a number; when you factor in inflation, the stock market has not recovered to its 2007 level.

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Your words: "eight years of Bush left the USA in the steepest recession": implying 8 years of dearth and despair when that was obviously not the case. Your over-simplistic understanding and explanation of events continues to belie Slick Willie's overt and significant contribution to the financial melt-down. And the thing -- spending level exceeding incoming revenue -- for which you decry Bush 43 has only been exacerbated by Odumbo. Plus, the stock market is just a number; when you factor in inflation, the stock market has not recovered to its 2007 level.

IBH, I am dissapointed in you. I thought you would have a stonger reply than that. Over-simplistic, what do you want me to do write a dissertation. This is not gradurate school you know. Everything I said was true. Bush came into office with a surplus and left with the USA in the worst recession since 1929. Was Slick Willie Clinton doing derivatives tradeing for the firms I mentioned previously? I don't think so. The Bill that you are talking about was designed to make it a little easier to buy a home. Instead of having to put down 20 percent and have a credit score of 800, you could for example put down 10 per cent and have a credit score of 650. The Bill did not tell the mortgage bankers to stop doing income verification checks and credit checks. The Bill did not tell the banks to process fradulent loans. The banks got greedy with these sub-prime mortgages. They wrote them as fast as they could, sold them to the Wall Street firms that I mentioned previously and the Wall street firms grouped these mortgages together into a security and sold it on the open market, backed with an undeserved 'AAA' rating from S&P. The Justice Department of the Federal Government is sueing the S&P for this practice. It was in the USA Today about 2 weeks ago, so don't tell me I am makeing it up. Once people start defaulting on these sub prime loans, you had a receipe for disaster, Lehman Brothers and AIG went completely bankrupt selling these unregulated securities. This is not the fault of Slick Willie Clinton. You should go to www.cnbc.com and watch their House of Cards Special, you might learn something. That's how it went down my friend. Obama did the stimulus and the bailouts to stablize our banking system and our economy. You can spin the DJIA any way you want. The DJIA closed today at 14,130, just 60 points from the all time high. The S&P 500 and the Wilshire 5000 index have already reached all time highs under Obama. The trickle down and no regulations for Wall Street simply does not work. Who is getting schooled now?