'If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen'

[Doove]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Then would you kindly explain how the President didn't mean what he said, CBJ7?

It was parody.

[CuteOldGuy]

Well, obviously Doofie doesn't have a clue. I'll wait for CBJ7, maybe he'll come up with something.

[Doove]

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

Even Team Obama isn't rushing to "put it in context." The Marxist-In-Chief wants it to stand.

I'll bet you Romney doesn't have the guts to bring that quote up during the debates.

And i'll wager whatever you're willing to wager. Just name it.

[Seedy]

So you libs say NOW we should not believe what he says. Well this time I DO. He is showing his true communist cocksucker colors. I hope he does keep on talking, he has awakened the american public to his truly sinister intentions. This november will be a landslide. And then put his TREASONOUS ASS ON TRIAL....!!!!!

[joe bloe]

Originally Posted by seedman55

So you libs say NOW we should not believe what he says. Well this time I DO. He is showing his true communist cocksucker colors. I hope he does keep on talking, he has awakened the american public to his truly sinister intentions. This november will be a landslide. And then put his TREASONOUS ASS ON TRIAL....!!!!!

Can you imagine a full FBI investigation into this freak? Imagine, getting warrants for all the sealed records and having the ability to subpoena witnesses. It would be like uncovering a cesspool.

[Seedy]

Originally Posted by joe bloe

Can you imagine a full FBI investigation into this freak? Imagine, getting warrants for all the sealed records and having the ability to subpoena witnesses. It would be like uncovering a cesspool.

I say FUCK EM ALL RIGHT IN THE ASS, Dems, repubs, indies, you fuck up, you pay the price. I think a vast majority of the dem leaders would be in prison also, along with a good sprinkling of repubs. Fuck em, you people think the shit ball hasn't started rolling down hill your sadly misstaken....

[CJ7]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Well, obviously Doofie doesn't have a clue. I'll wait for CBJ7, maybe he'll come up with something.

The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together.


hows that?

[Seedy]

Originally Posted by CJ7

The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together.


hows that?

CJ, not quite. We succeed because we have a product or service that the customer wants, those that succeed have a better product for the price , or their customer service is superior to the competion. Good salesmanship is key, but follow up and doing and performing to the best of your ability, and pleasing the customer is what makes you successfull.

[CJ7]

Originally Posted by seedman55

CJ, not quite. We succeed because we have a product or service that the customer wants, those that succeed have a better product for the price , or their customer service is superior to the competion. Good salesmanship is key, but follow up and doing and performing to the best of your ability, and pleasing the customer is what makes you successfull.

who do you sell you product to yourself?


surely we dont rely on others to buy our services

[CuteOldGuy]

Hmmm . . . We succeed because we do things together. That assumes a voluntary association, and that I know who the other participants are. Those people are generally called "parners" or "employees". I'm not sure that is who he is referring to.

I think he was stating that if a person got ahead in life, that person owes a portion of his/her wealth to others who did not take the risk, spend the long hours, sweat over details, paid the bills, paid the taxes, do the paperwork, do the research, sacrifice time with friends and family, get the training, etc. In fact, he made it sound like a person really has no say in their own success. It just "happens" and then the successful person must offer the fruits s/he earned (or was "given") to those who were only passive in process.

It's like saying the spectators at a NASCAR race are entitled to a share of the purse, because they showed up and watched.

I think that is more on point, don't you, CBJ7?

[CuteOldGuy]

Originally Posted by CJ7

who do you sell you product to yourself?


surely we dont rely on others to buy our services

No, we don't. We provide goods and services to others that others want. If they don't want them, or our goods and/or service is inferior, they do not buy them. They don't buy our goods and services to be nice to us, they do it because we have taken the time, made the sacrifice and effort, to provide those goods and services at a market price.

Customers aren't doing the business a favor, the business makes money by doing the customer a favor - providing quality goods and services at a price which reflects their value in the market.

[CJ7]

nascar drivers dont need pit crews or sopnsors or anyone else to insure their success


theyes be one man shows allll by theyselve yowza!

[Seedy]

Originally Posted by CJ7

who do you sell you product to yourself?


surely we dont rely on others to buy our services

CJ, I don't think you understand how a successfull buisness works. You sell your products mainly to strangers, untill you build a good repore with them and cater to their needs. You have to rely on others to buy your products and services. I will give you a good example of what one of my customers said was superior customer service.

I am in the nursey business, have a great reputation for being an excellent grower, propagator and manager. A good customer in Dallas ordered a truckload of trees and shrubs, my guys on the loading dock missed two specimen plants that were on the order. The customers called pretty pissed off, he needed the plants for the next mourning, and had come to houston and hand tagged them. I told him I would bring them that night in my personal truck if he would help unload them. He didn't believe I would drive 250 miles with 2 trees, told him when I would be there. My guys fucked up the order, but they were good workers, and everyone makes mistakes, this was fixable, so that's what I did.

After that he realized I cared and wanted his buisness, we were his first call for plant material after that. And to this day get a christmas card from him, and still talks about me doing that for him

[CuteOldGuy]

You take too much credit for yourself, Seedman. There was a road for you to drive on to do that, so you owe a portion of your wealth to all the others who ever drove on that road. If they had not driven that road, it wouldn't have been there.

Show some compassion, man! Spread the wealth! Just because you started the business, took the risk, etc., and set a high standard of service, doesn't mean you deserve any credit for your success. It just "happened". You had nothing to do with it.



Note to libs: In order to fully understand this post, please take out your Fantasy-Reality interpretation dictionary, and look up the word "sarcasm." Thank you.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Hmmm . .
It's like saying the spectators at a NASCAR race are entitled to a share of the purse, because they showed up and watched.

I think that is more on point, don't you, CBJ7?

There would be no purse witbout those spectators, you silly fuc