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07-24-2010, 07:33 PM
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I have seen and experienced some weird and horrible things. Take for instance the time after a session when i was looking for my shoe, and with a bare foot off the bed, just under the bedspread on the floor, lands in an old used condom and believe me it was used, and it wasn't mine.
That was pretty gross.
Every time I think about that, i throw up just a little bit in my mouth.
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Yes, I do enjoy CIM, but not many ladies have been able to make me pop that way, so it is a pretty rare thing for me. In fact, I can't remember the last time I was able to get off that way, so more times than not we move on to other COVERED activities long before that ever happens.
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This is why I don't pay any attention to what this person has to say. You see, he puts his foot on or near a used condom...........and gets cum on his foot and he wants to throw up............yet he loves to cum in some providers mouth. Talk about hypocrisy!
If you think all of your bitching and moaning about the existence of BBFS makes you some sort of hobby hero, you are sadly mistaken. Actually all of your bitching and moaning is coming off to some of us that you don't think much of the intelligence of the average hobbyist, when it comes to our health. We don't need you to tell us how safe any act is or isn't.
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07-24-2010, 07:40 PM
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This is why I don't pay any attention to what this person has to say. You see, he puts his foot on or near a used condom...........and gets cum on his foot and he wants to throw up............yet he loves to cum in some providers mouth. Talk about hypocrisy!
If you think all of your bitching and moaning about the existence of BBFS makes you some sort of hobby hero, you are sadly mistaken. Actually all of your bitching and moaning is coming off to some of us that you don't think much of the intelligence of the average hobbyist, when it comes to our health. We don't need you to tell us how safe any act is or isn't.
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Dear John hopefully im not one of those ppl. Not trying to insult Your intelligence by far. How many times have You seen a new hobbiest ask what the abbreviations mean? BBFS CID? hell i had to look up CID.
i think there is a standard here that should be set, that most feel are set but are not. i feel truly sorry for the man who sees her as his first time experience. And wonder if he will hobby again.
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07-24-2010, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by DEAR_JOHN
Actually all of your bitching and moaning is coming off to some of us that you don't think much of the intelligence of the average hobbyist, when it comes to our health. We don't need you to tell us how safe any act is or isn't.
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Originally Posted by DEAR_JOHN
One and only handle on many SHMB's since 1972.
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Well since you have been on the hobby message boards since 1972, I guess I will have to defer to you, for after all this time, surely you have your finger on the pulse of all things in hobby world.
Just out of curiosity, did you help Al Gore invent the internet?
All kidding aside, the medical facts and the CDC reports should be enough to tell anyone that can read how reckless this behavior is.
As a side note, I hope you were not trying to suggest that CIM and BBFS have the same level of risk with that syllogism you attempted. As to whether it is good for the whole community to be tolerant of this activity. . .time will tell.
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07-24-2010, 09:29 PM
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Hobby police!
Save us!
Save us from ourselves!
Without you we're all screwed!!!!
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07-24-2010, 11:28 PM
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That is too bad and sad. There is too much going on in the world to not stay safe. Some people are just gross...
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07-24-2010, 11:31 PM
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07-24-2010, 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by subcilla
i feel truly sorry for the man who sees her as his first time experience. And wonder if he will hobby again.
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Really? so just cuz she engages in it, he can't wear a condom? he doesn't have that right? common sense?
I mean it gets real old, providers and some hobbyiest thinking guys are smart enough to make their own damn decisions and live with them.. they don't need any of our help determining that BAREBACKING some girl is unsafe!!!
seriously.. some poor pitiful sap is gonna get taken advantage of? he isn't smart enough to walk in and say.. i wear condoms.. or walk the fuck out if he is uncomfortable? which all hobbyiest reserve the right to do? seriously?
or is it that some new guy is so fuckin stupid in some peoples eyes that they lack the general intelligence to see an ad that might suggest BBFS and NOT see her if he is not comfortable? seriously? i mean in the end thats what is being hinted at..
im just a dumb whore born in arkansas.. but i reckon there be guys smart nuff to read them there girls postin and figur out that BBFS means bareback full service.. before they go jumping into a date with her.. or are they that damn dumb in most providers eyes?
it just amazes me that some ADULTS are so in awe of this mysterious "bbfs".. assuming cuz its advertised EVERY GUY must be partaking in it lol.. some need to grow up, quit trying to police the hobby and save guys from themselves..worry bout their own damn business..suck some dick, get some cock stuck in them.. and let people hobby the way they want.. avoid the people you want... see who you want.. fuck how you want
i have also about determined some need to really reconsider whether they are paranoia free enough to remain in the hobby...seriously.. bbfs starting a probe into prostitution and prostitution places LMAO.. SERIOUSLY!! some are to damn worried about stuff to enjoy a good whore i think
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Hobby police!
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Without you we're all screwed!!!!
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that sums it up
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07-25-2010, 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by subcilla
Dear John hopefully im not one of those ppl. Not trying to insult Your intelligence by far. How many times have You seen a new hobbiest ask what the abbreviations mean? BBFS CID? hell i had to look up CID.
i think there is a standard here that should be set, that most feel are set but are not. i feel truly sorry for the man who sees her as his first time experience. And wonder if he will hobby again.
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My point had nothing to do with you. My point is this guy thinks putting his foot on a used condom is gross enough to make him want to puke, however he likes it when he puts his cum deep in some ladies mouth.
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07-25-2010, 04:47 AM
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Apples and Oranges?
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Originally Posted by DEAR_JOHN
My point had nothing to do with you. My point is this guy thinks putting his foot on a used condom is gross enough to make him want to puke, however he likes it when he puts his cum deep in some ladies mouth.
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What in the world does that have to do with this topic? The quotes you put here are not only out of context and off topic they aren't even from this thread.
For somebody that claims to have been frequenting SHMB's since 1972 (internet wormhole? time warp?) you would think you would be able to navigate a little better by now?
What does my big toe landing in some other guy's jizz in a condom left near the bed from a previous session have to do with CIM? I suspect about as much as CIM has to do with BBFS.
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07-25-2010, 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by DeAnna Luv
Really? so just cuz she engages in it, he can't wear a condom? he doesn't have that right? common sense?
I mean it gets real old, providers and some hobbyiest thinking guys are smart enough to make their own damn decisions and live with them.. they don't need any of our help determining that BAREBACKING some girl is unsafe!!!
seriously.. some poor pitiful sap is gonna get taken advantage of? he isn't smart enough to walk in and say.. i wear condoms.. or walk the fuck out if he is uncomfortable? which all hobbyiest reserve the right to do? seriously?
or is it that some new guy is so fuckin stupid in some peoples eyes that they lack the general intelligence to see an ad that might suggest BBFS and NOT see her if he is not comfortable? seriously? i mean in the end thats what is being hinted at..
im just a dumb whore born in arkansas.. but i reckon there be guys smart nuff to read them there girls postin and figur out that BBFS means bareback full service.. before they go jumping into a date with her.. or are they that damn dumb in most providers eyes?
it just amazes me that some ADULTS are so in awe of this mysterious "bbfs".. assuming cuz its advertised EVERY GUY must be partaking in it lol.. some need to grow up, quit trying to police the hobby and save guys from themselves..worry bout their own damn business..suck some dick, get some cock stuck in them.. and let people hobby the way they want.. avoid the people you want... see who you want.. fuck how you want
i have also about determined some need to really reconsider whether they are paranoia free enough to remain in the hobby...seriously.. bbfs starting a probe into prostitution and prostitution places LMAO.. SERIOUSLY!! some are to damn worried about stuff to enjoy a good whore i think
that sums it up
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Sure, this would come from the lady who suggest she goes from session to session without a shower. i wouldn't expect any higher standards. im quite frankly getting tired of You running around and replying to everything i have to say, keep talking my name... You're making me closer to famous! It isnt assuming every guy pataks in it, its assuming its offered to everyone as listed in an ad, not even an upsell in person. Which is just fucking disgusting!!!
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07-25-2010, 12:34 PM
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I agree with the sentiment that the back and forth between one section that says "it is a part of the hobby and an inherent risk you take" and a group that says "it is a foot to far for me and I want to know and adjust my personal hobbying accordingly". But the title of the thread is "Is this for real? bbfs??" What were those who are so annoyed with the discussion thinking the topic of conversation was? It is like going to sex and the city 2 movie and standing up after 10 minutes screaming where is the fight scenes and action sequences. This a chick flick, I HATE it but I'm going to stay in here and yell for the entire movie. This wasn't even about a generic conversation like "would you see a provider that offers bbfs?" it was clearly about a specific instance of a specific provider possibly offering bbfs.
Irrespective of you opinion on whether or not it matters, there are clearly some people that feel it is information they want to adjust their own hobbying and are not comfortable with. The entire point of this board is for information sharing. So as long as the title of the thread isn't misleading, then you knew what the topic of conversation is and could have easily avoided it. It was all of till post 12 that the first who cares, so what post was made. Now we are around post 100 and for every bbfs is evil we are all going to die post there are an equal number of
"Hobby police!
Save us!
Save us from ourselves!
Without you we're all screwed!!!! " glib, but doesn't particularly add to the topic or information presented.
For this specific instance, the individual in question doesn't offer bb, bbfs, cid, or creampie in all of their ads. So a hobbyist, one who might want to avoid a situation of offered bbfs completely for whatever their own reasons, might see an ad that doesn't list those services. Therefore, they would not know unless they happened to read through all said providers previous ads. And prior to this thread, a simple search of said name didn't really bring up information that might lead one to believe that bbfs was possibly being offered. So information was present and now available for the hobbyists who would want to know that information to adjust their own hobbying accordingly. There wasn't third party information or a new person with 0 posts accusing a provider of bbfs with no information.
In summation, there was a post with information that some consider important to their hobbying activities. It could have ended some 80 or so posts ago, information was presented, the person in question made a statement, etc. But instead it went on indefinitely from two sides bloviating from two perspectives that don't agree. Someone ,who really didn't want to hear about it, could easily avoid said thread with a non-confusing title and let it go away, far off on page 3. Without an opposing "that's dumb everyone bbfs" argument, the proselytizers about the evils of bbfs wouldn't have a form to go off about. Instead there are a ton of posts carrying on a pedantic argument of I'm smarter then you, no your dumb and I'm smart and other pointless arguments.
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07-25-2010, 08:15 PM
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. It was all of till post 12 that the first who cares, so what post was made. Now we are around post 100 and for every bbfs is evil we are all going to die post there are an equal number of
"Hobby police!
Save us!
Save us from ourselves!
Without you we're all screwed!!!! " glib, but doesn't particularly add to the topic or information presented.
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Actually i think it adds alot.. thats one more person..either for real not.. speaking up against the ones that seemingly feel the need to SAVE US from ourselves..
i love a good martyr as much as the next person.. but the hobby is no place to try and pronounce yourself as one..
if this was merely to INFORM.. or "alert" us then it was posted in the wrong section.. or the op could have ask for it to have been locked long ago..
it was however posted in DISCUSSION..meaning the person must be looking for a discussion.. now personally while others have attempted to manipulate their argument by saying "i just think we should be aware" all the way down to "it will gain us attention from LE" while others have simply held there ground on.. "it happens, get over it" basically..
most people don't give a rats ass.. they wear condoms which is all you can do.. nothing more nothing less.. its not hard to understand..nothing to spin..
everyone you are with has went bareback.. wear a condom like usual its all you can do, cuz know one knows who has done what, with whom.. only speculation..
let the hobbyiest worry about themselves and do their research..its no providers business or job to point out what some other provider is doing.. mind your own and everyone will be ok
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07-25-2010, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by daarakan
I agree with the sentiment that the back and forth between one section that says "it is a part of the hobby and an inherent risk you take" and a group that says "it is a foot to far for me and I want to know and adjust my personal hobbying accordingly". But the title of the thread is "Is this for real? bbfs??" What were those who are so annoyed with the discussion thinking the topic of conversation was? It is like going to sex and the city 2 movie and standing up after 10 minutes screaming where is the fight scenes and action sequences. This a chick flick, I HATE it but I'm going to stay in here and yell for the entire movie. This wasn't even about a generic conversation like "would you see a provider that offers bbfs?" it was clearly about a specific instance of a specific provider possibly offering bbfs.
Irrespective of you opinion on whether or not it matters, there are clearly some people that feel it is information they want to adjust their own hobbying and are not comfortable with. The entire point of this board is for information sharing. So as long as the title of the thread isn't misleading, then you knew what the topic of conversation is and could have easily avoided it. It was all of till post 12 that the first who cares, so what post was made. Now we are around post 100 and for every bbfs is evil we are all going to die post there are an equal number of
"Hobby police!
Save us!
Save us from ourselves!
Without you we're all screwed!!!! " glib, but doesn't particularly add to the topic or information presented.
For this specific instance, the individual in question doesn't offer bb, bbfs, cid, or creampie in all of their ads. So a hobbyist, one who might want to avoid a situation of offered bbfs completely for whatever their own reasons, might see an ad that doesn't list those services. Therefore, they would not know unless they happened to read through all said providers previous ads. And prior to this thread, a simple search of said name didn't really bring up information that might lead one to believe that bbfs was possibly being offered. So information was present and now available for the hobbyists who would want to know that information to adjust their own hobbying accordingly. There wasn't third party information or a new person with 0 posts accusing a provider of bbfs with no information.
In summation, there was a post with information that some consider important to their hobbying activities. It could have ended some 80 or so posts ago, information was presented, the person in question made a statement, etc. But instead it went on indefinitely from two sides bloviating from two perspectives that don't agree. Someone ,who really didn't want to hear about it, could easily avoid said thread with a non-confusing title and let it go away, far off on page 3. Without an opposing "that's dumb everyone bbfs" argument, the proselytizers about the evils of bbfs wouldn't have a form to go off about. Instead there are a ton of posts carrying on a pedantic argument of I'm smarter then you, no your dumb and I'm smart and other pointless arguments.
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1. You use really big words. Why do you do that? Little bitty words have worked just fine on hobby boards since 1972.
2. We don't need no stinkin' censorship police to tell us we don't need no stinkin' hobby police. But some providers just love a man in uniform and that's their right even if we all don't agree with it. What can Brown do for you?
3. I did go to see Sex and the City 2 and I did yell the entire movie. But it was clearly about a specific instance of Chick Flick induced Tourette syndrome.
4. Some of us are smarter than some of us. Just not all of us are smarter than all of us.
5. Why is your summation longer than your introduction and main message? It's like when the preacher keeps dragging out the end of his sermon and the game is about to start.
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07-25-2010, 10:51 PM
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1. You use really big words. Why do you do that? Little bitty words have worked just fine on hobby boards since 1972.
3. I did go to see Sex and the City 2 and I did yell the entire movie. But it was clearly about a specific instance of Chick Flick induced Tourette syndrome.
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I have to concede the placement of this thread in coed is odd.
for number 1, given that I wrote "Irrespective of you opinion" there is a complete negation of any big words. No matter what you opinion is...spell check doesn't cover grammar.
as for number 3, that follows under the hobby rule - deny, deny, deny.
In summation, ..... Five paragraph summation deleted.
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07-26-2010, 10:24 AM
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You are right, we may not be able to change her actions, or those that decide to be her clients. We can however show our public disdain for the activity in hopes that new providers, new hobbyists, and those that may be on the fence with this issue are dissuaded from ever taking it up.
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While I agree that BBFS is very risky behavior, I've come to the conclusion that being so militant about this is rather hypocritical.
By definition, the hobby is risky. All of it. Each of us decides what level of risk we're comfortable with. Who am I to tell you what level of risk is acceptable?
(Heck, my personal decision is not to engage in FS during sessions at all, for a number of reasons. Should I start moralizing and chastise those who partake in that risky behavior?)
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