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Old 03-17-2014, 03:03 PM   #91
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in this case a recession started ... good times, good times !


for something you know very little about (ACA) you sure are critical
That's right, iam going to be critical about something the Government is so adamant about implementing, especially when it has adversely affected some people.


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Old 03-17-2014, 04:20 PM   #92
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That's right, iam going to be critical about something the Government is so adamant about implementing, especially when it has adversely affected some people.


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too late sport, its a law and its on the books, up, and running ... you can be adamant until you shit and fall over and theres not a damn thing you can do ... unless you're a vet enrolled with the VA sooner or later you'll be a part of the big party, and theres not a damn thing you can do about that either .... either die pissed off or start smiling
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too late sport, its a law and its on the books, up, and running ... you can be adamant until you shit and fall over and theres not a damn thing you can do ... unless you're a vet enrolled with the VA sooner or later you'll be a part of the big party, and theres not a damn thing you can do about that either .... either die pissed off or start smiling
That's right it's a Law that I had nothing to with. Just because it's a Law doesn't mean it's right and just. My Healthcare plan doesn't come from the exchange and it won't as long as it's in my power. For those who have obtained Healthcare through the ACA have at it. You won't die smiling you'll just die and no one will give a shit and on your last breath that's when you'll realize why and that's when it will be to late.


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Old 03-17-2014, 04:45 PM   #94
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That's right it's a Law that I had nothing to with. Just because it's a Law doesn't mean it's right and just. My Healthcare plan doesn't come from the exchange and it won't as long as it's in my power. For those who have obtained Healthcare through the ACA have at it. You won't die smiling you'll just die and no one will give a shit and on your last breath that's when you'll realize why and that's when it will be to late.


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every insurance company that sells healthcare has to comply with the law, and the laws standards ... you don't have to buy a policy through an exchange...that's why its called a law, and that's why you might as well consider yourself as screwed as you are stupid about the law ... congrats, you're an Obamatron
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every insurance company that sells healthcare has to comply with the law, and the laws standards ... you don't have to buy a policy through an exchange...that's why its called a law, and that's why you might as well consider yourself as screwed as you are stupid about the law ... congrats, you're an Obamatron
Hahaha, you have no idea what you're even talking about. It's obvious you're one of those silly little hobbits that knows a little bit about everything and a lot about nothing.

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Old 03-17-2014, 05:48 PM   #96
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I like that; Gentlemen, let me assure you that this ship is unsinkable by God himself.--Phillip Franklin, Vice President, White Star Line
I don't think Mr. Franklin made that statement with the expectation that his ship would hit an Iceberg of that size in middle of the night at the rate of speed that the ship was going. In the movie didn't they increase the speed of ship at night to show off a little bit? Turned out to be a bad move. If they had been traveling at a slower speed they might have avoided the iceberg( more time to turn).

JD, like Part D, the ACA has the risk pathways. What does this mean? It means that for three years the federal government will reimburse the health insurance companies if they lose money selling policies on the exchanges. It also means that if the health insurance companies make excess profits, then they will reimburse the government for the excess profit. You won't have a Titanic situation with the ACA, at least not for the first three years.

The risk pathways end after three years. If the health insurance companies decide to continue selling policies on the exchanges after three years, they will be on their own and will not be backed up by the Federal Government. The risk pathways are what Senator Rubio has been complaining about.

This is why 2019 is the critical year for the exchanges and the ACA. The million dollar question is will the Risk pool of the exchanges have the mix that will make it attractive for the health insurance companies to continue to sell policies on the government exchanges.
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Old 03-17-2014, 05:56 PM   #97
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Hahaha, you have no idea what you're even talking about. It's obvious you're one of those silly little hobbits that knows a little bit about everything and a lot about nothing.

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ok, fine.

if you have health insurance of any kind from any insurance company when the delay in the law expires that company along with the rest of the insurance industry MUST have standards that comply with the ACA .. that's the LAW, believe it ..

why do you think the insurance companies canceling policies ? and the delay or individuals was for 2 years?

ponder that sport.


if you're on a grandfatherd plan you have until 2015 or until your insurance company makes a change ( any change) killing your grandfathered status ... after that you are insured by ACA standards.


I suppose the right wingers will really need their health insurance in 2015 when they become Obamatrons and have a damn stroke

unless you're special and your insurance company decides to break the law just for you
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I don't think Mr. Franklin made that statement with the expectation that his ship would hit an Iceberg of that size in middle of the night at the rate of speed that the ship was going. In the movie didn't they increase the speed of ship at night to show off a little bit? Turned out to be a bad move. If they had been traveling at a slower speed they might have avoided the iceberg( more time to turn).

JD, like Part D, the ACA has the risk pathways. What does this mean? It means that for three years the federal government will reimburse the health insurance companies if they lose money selling policies on the exchanges. It also means that if the health insurance companies make excess profits, then they will reimburse the government for the excess profit. You won't have a Titanic situation with the ACA, at least not for the first three years.

The risk pathways end after three years. If the health insurance companies decide to continue selling policies on the exchanges after three years, they will be on their own and will not be backed up by the Federal Government. The risk pathways are what Senator Rubio has been complaining about.

This is why 2019 is the critical year for the exchanges and the ACA. The million dollar question is will the Risk pool of the exchanges have the mix that will make it attractive for the health insurance companies to continue to sell policies on the government exchanges.
Take that shit down the road boy...


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Old 03-17-2014, 06:09 PM   #99
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You didn't even look at current reality ... did you?

http://laborunionreport.com/2014/03/...unions-report/

This is the sting:

"As the first union that endorsed then-candidate Barack Obama, UNITE-HERE has done an about face on Obama’s signature piece of legislation, the Affordable Care Act."

Neither does Obaminable, Nancy, and Harry ... your "good" company.

That's why we are in the mess we are in. The Lies and the Bullshit.

You'd rather point to graphs and predictions .... the story of the Titanic.
LexusLover, in reply number 73 of this thread you quote from the CBO. The 36 million number for the uninsured that you listed is a projection. In Table 3 that was published by the Director of the CBO (Elmendorf) he has 26 million for number of Uninsured not 36 million. So, you quoted a projection and then when you are corrected on it, you don't want to look at the projections anymore. Fellow users on ECCIE do you see the SPIN?

LexusLover, I saw your link. I have a question for you. Does that union have an alternative plan to the ACA other than just let the individual market remain as it is and let the 40 million or 50 million people stay uninsured?

Do they have a plan that will accomplish these three things.

1. People with pre-existing conditions will not be denied health insurance coverage.

2. People up to age 26 will be allowed to stay on their parents plan.

3. If you get sick your health insurance company will not be allowed to drop you.

That union had some complaints, but they did not seem to have an alternative plan.
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Take that shit down the road boy...



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The Affordable Care Act, the most sweeping health care program created in a half century, is expected to extend coverage to 25 million Americans over the next decade, according to the most recent government estimates. But that will still leave a projected 31 million people without insurance by 2023. Those left out include undocumented workers and poor people living in the 21 states, such as Virginia, that have so far declined to expand Medicaid under the statute, commonly called Obamacare. [The Washington Post, 9/8/13]


I've shown that to LL several times and he's still to stupid to understand it ... good luck.
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The Affordable Care Act, the most sweeping health care program created in a half century, is expected to extend coverage to 25 million Americans over the next decade, according to the most recent government estimates. But that will still leave a projected 31 million people without insurance by 2023. Those left out include undocumented workers and poor people living in the 21 states, such as Virginia, that have so far declined to expand Medicaid under the statute, commonly called Obamacare. [The Washington Post, 9/8/13]


I've shown that to LL several times and he's still to stupid to understand it ... good luck.

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