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And just yesterday, a student at the HS where my wife teaches, went home and got into an argument with his parents. When the parents left to go out for dinner, the boy took the family gun and killed himself.
Sometimes you're damned if you do and damned if you don't.
You have these assholes who try to overwhelm you with a mountain of "iffy" data. I found one pile of bullshit in less than 3 minutes. That means there are more.
Just facts? Not hardly. As a 2nd amendment supporter and ex-NRA member, it pisses me off that the “help” we get is from wack jobs and fringe types. People who oppose background checks (Fed info from checks is stored 3 days), people who insist we need armor piercing ammo, (so many criminals wear body armor), etc. High capacity magazines? Too many out there to even begin to collect them. Plus nothing funnier than watching a moron burn 2, 30 rnd mags through their ARs and then they touch the barrel. Except for watching them burn 4 mags through a rifle which fucks up the lands.
Then we have these guys. I checked one of their facts. Just one. In it they lied and mis-represented the information. Don’t take my word for it. I post links. In this case they posted the link themselves. Because they know the low-brows won’t read it and if they did they wouldn’t catch the lie. If I extrapolate out their credibility based on that fact using their method of calculating some of their statements, guess where that puts them? That’s right, douche-bag land
Add in the fact that they have made no attempt to correct this bullshit. I remember y’all squealing like little girls when Obama didn’t correct something that had a single printing and wasn’t written by him.. Don’t get me started.
Oh, and jd? There won’t be a test.
First they say:
Of 1,662 murders committed in New York City during 2003-2005, more than 90% were committed by people with criminal records.[32]
They even add a footnote! From the linked article.
"Five people eliminated a boss; 10 others murdered co-workers. Males who killed favored firearms, while women and girls chose knives as often as guns. More homicides occurred in Brooklyn than in any other borough. More happened on Saturday. And roughly a third are unsolved.
From 2003 through 2005, 1,662 murders were committed in New York. No information, beyond an occasional physical description, is available on the killers in the unsolved cases"
The article clearly states that @1/3 of the murders are unsolved and that they have no real information about the killers. Just facts says 90% of the killers are criminals when only 90% of 66% are (@63% of the total) Then they have the balls to put this in:
Many aspects of the gun control issue are best measured and sometimes can only be measured through surveys,[1] but the accuracy of such surveys depends upon respondents providing truthful answers to questions that are sometimes controversial and potentially incriminating.[2] Thus, Just Facts uses such data critically, citing the best-designed surveys we find, detailing their inner workings in our footnotes, and using the most cautious plausible interpretations of the results.
There are many surveys they did not cite. They are selective of supporting info and just like kayla
"From 2003 through 2005, 1,662 murders were committed in New York. ... More than 90 percent of the killers had criminal records; and of those who wound up killed, more than half had them."
Again, no mention of that @550 unknown killers.
I'm sure the rest of their data is fine.
Right, pluck, fuck, and then suck out the duck?
Sorry Munchy. I think it's a typo. I saw somewhere else that it said "90% of the murderers voted for Oslappy...". fucker
fuckem...
