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Joan Jett's cover was better. considering i turned 10 in 1970, no i didn't listen to much 60's radio. by the 1970's AM was overtaken by this thing known as Frequency Modulation .. you may know it as FM Radio.
my dad preferred Big Band music actually. Didn't have any Mancini records. Glenn Miller was more his thing.
Same here...Glenn Miller, Bing Crosby.Kate Smith
The mighty KLIF...1190 back in the 60's here. Stones, Hendrix, CCR,Aretha,Sam and Dave,Guess Who,Love,Cream....Worth buying on 45's......Great Rock and Soul played back to back. Back when the popular music...was also the good music.
Complete opposite now....Cardi B, Taylor Swift, Dj Kalid---popular..Can't name one song by any of 'em...
The DOJ filed an amicus brief late Thursday supporting Zeppelin against a claim by the trustees of the late Spirit singer/guitarist Randy Wolfe — a.k.a. Randy California — that it lifted a musical passage for its song from “Taurus.”
Michael Skidmore, the trustee of the Randy Craig Wolfe Trust, sued the band in 2014, arguing that “Stairway to Heaven” ripped off elements of Wolfe’s composition. A jury ruled in favor of Led Zeppelin in 2016, finding that the two songs were not substantially similar.
Skidmore appealed, and on Friday a three-judge panel of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals ordered a new trial. The panel found that U.S. District Court Judge Gary Klausner gave instructions that failed to make clear that an arrangement of otherwise unprotectable elements in a song can be sufficiently original to merit copyright protection.
“Without a selection and arrangement instruction, the jury instructions severely undermined Skidmore’s argument for extrinsic similarity, which is exactly what the jury found lacking,” wrote Circuit Judge Richard A. Paez, for the court.
Paez also faulted Klausner for refusing to allow Skidmore’s attorney to play “Taurus” while Jimmy Page was testifying. The attorney was seeking to show that Page had access to “Taurus” when “Stairway to Heaven” was composed, but Klausner ruled that playing the song with the jury present could be confusing.
But in June, the full Ninth Circuit said it would hear the appeal again. On Thursday, the Justice Department said the trial judge was correct in ruling that the only work subject to copyright protection was the sheet music — which was filed with the copyright office — and not sound recordings, and that the relevant portion of the songs is not virtually identical.
Thursday’s move is significant for a number of reasons, not least because the juries in the recent “Dark Horse” and 2015 “Blurred Lines” decision — in which Robin Thicke and Pharrell Williams were found to have infringed on the copyright of Marvin Gaye’s song “Got to Give It up” based on a similar “feel” — ruled against the defendants, which in this case is Led Zeppelin.
The case goes before the appeals court next month.
let's compare shall we?
Spirit "Taurus"
Now Led Zeppelin "Stairway to Heaven"
to give cred .. ecky9.5k pointed out .. what i already knew .. Spirit and Led Zep did play at least one if not several festivals together, that is fact. Spirit would seem to have the edge in who was first .. with their interlude.
but it's more complicated than that. "Taurus" is an interlude between songs. "Stairway to Heaven" is a song. And Spirit waited so long to even bring this challenge that it seems nothing more than a money grab. the guitarist for Spirit died decades ago in a surfing accident in Hawaii. The band was never popular or all that successful in its prime. Led Zep .. well we all know what heights they reached before Bonzo's untimely death.
Randy California aka Randy Craig Wolfe died in 1997. his estate sued 20 years later. because they wanted money for nothing. why didn't they sue decades before he even died .. knowing full well how successful Led Zeppelin had become? and Led Zeppelin disbanded in 1980 after John Henry Bonham's death.
Spirit lost on multiple fronts. they waited some 40 plus years to even challenge Led Zep and some 20 years after their guitar player died. it was Randy Wolfe's estate that brought the suit.
They really lost because a 20 second interlude even if overheard by Jimmy Page at a concert does not a song make.
and because there are so many similarities between all songs Beethoven's heirs could sue everyonefor nearly every song ever written.
the trial judge who awarded the winklivi tards 65 Million from zuckerjew (facebook) said nearly the same thing ..
"A dorm room conversation does not a contract make".
And these dipshits were Harvard business majors. did they even go to class???
Apparently not! They certainly didn't take Contract Law 101 .. did they?
yet they got 65 Mil from Zuckerjew.
Led Zeppelin won. and rightfully so. Spirit is a rock nobody. Zed Leppelin (lol) are rock gods. and yes they did settle some suits over early covers of various blues tunes. their total body of work speaks for itself. You could sue the Beatles for the same thing.
Spirit used to get a lot of airplay....Got a Line on You...and Nature's Way were minor hits. Like both bands...but Led Zeppelin are at another level. Never spent money to see Spirit in concert....Saw Led Zeppelin three times...still have a few ticket stubs. $4.50 price for one show with 20th row floor seats (Houses of the Holy Tour)....great times.
After Zeppelin's fourth lp....there would be long lines at most any record store to be the first to score their newest release. When Zep slowed down...Queen arrived to fill the vacuum.
I'd back Zep too in this case.....not as blatant as George Harrison "My Sweet Lord" vs Chiffons "He's So Fine"...which it was ruled he subconsciously nabbed
Spirit used to get a lot of airplay....Got a Line on You...and Nature's Way were minor hits. Like both bands...but Led Zeppelin are at another level. Never spent money to see Spirit in concert....Saw Led Zeppelin three times...still have a few ticket stubs. $4.50 price for one show with 20th row floor seats (Houses of the Holy Tour)....great times.
I'd back Zep too in this case.....not as blatant as George Harrison "My Sweet Lord" vs Chiffons "He's So Fine"...which it was ruled he subconsciously nabbed it.
Nice. i saw Led Zeppelin twice in 1977, Louisville and Indianapolis. Saw Page/Plant on the Unledded tour three times, Indy, St. Louis and Lexington.
got a good friend who has an un-torn Led Zeppelin ticket from the Louisville show. won't find too many of those .. yeah? long story short, he fell off a fence evading the man in blue and messed his back up. spent a week wearing a back brace. he was 15. his parents wouldn't let him go. just recently i was talking to him and since we had gone to many rock shows he asked me "what was the best rock show you saw?" i replied .. "Uh.. you don't want to know". he asked "Why? what was it?" me .. "Led Zeppelin". Him .. "oh yeah .. i forgot about that."
has the ticket to this day. he kept it.
here's a story about your avatar .. The Who. i almost went to the 1979 show in Cincy. yeah .. that show.
i used to scalp tickets back in the day. but i didn't have any for that show but a buddy did, so i got there about 10 minutes too late and he sold it to another buddy, Paco. So Paco went to the show instead of me. Paco was about 5'5" not a big guy. what happened is the roadies about 45 minutes before the real show began played a couple of Who songs to test the setup and the crowd outside thought the show had already begun. that's why they rushed a set of double glass doors and broke them in to get in. Paco, thinking the show had started, ran in with the crowd. about halfway down that passageway he got knocked down and was being trampled.
Suddenly, he and some chick next to him got picked up by some guy behind them. some great big dude .. lineman big. 6'5" 250 type guy. wearing a football letter jacket. He picked Paco and that chick up under each arm and kept running, nearly getting knocked down himself until they got out into the main arena. then he fell down but they were clear at that point. He helped Paco and that chick up, asked "are you guys ok"? and Paco and that chick said "yeah". He said "Ok, cool" and just walked off into the crowd.
Paco never saw him or that chick again. dude saved their lives. and i know a buddy here in Dallas who used to live in Indiana who was good friends with one of the people who got killed. some guy from Ohio near the Indiana border..
The promoters did NOT tell The Who what had happened so they played the show without knowing. they were LIVID when they found out after. both Townsend and Daltrey have said many times they would have cancelled if they knew. They were shocked.
Cool stories....I have an untorn Rolling Stones ticket from the time they played the Cotton Bowl It was raining like hell the day of the Concert...got a call from an old girlfriend in Houston...said She was lonely...So I blew off the show and went to Love field and got a plane to Space City. Don't regret my decision at all.
Saw Page on the Outrider tour....it was an outdoor show...He was sweating like hell...and his playing was sloppy (forbidden subs?).....Oh how the mighty have fallen. But I'm glad he recovered.. The Reunion shows they did in UK a few years ago.. at the o2 were great. Not as strong as the Cream Reunion though.
Saw the Who 7 times....first time I saw them they were touring to support Quadrophenia The floor seats all had banners on them that said who is Lynyrd Skynyrd? Their debut had just been released and they were starting to get airplay on KZEW. As the opening act they killed that night.....last song was "Freebird" and I saw a few people leave after they had that dual guitar close. It was hard for the Who to top that.. They did though....the Who were fantastic with the original line up.. The times I saw them after Keith Moon died...they had lost their spark. With The Ox dead...calling themselves the Who is ridiculous.
Waco and MM. Good stories and great historical perspective.
Mystic, I have to ask, A better "top" or "bottom" Number 2 guy?
Im not sure I understand your question. Could you be more clear or ask the question differently. (Im cutting you slack because I know the Pittsburg public education system is lacking)
With The Ox dead...calling themselves the Who is ridiculous.
we should start a thread, "who had a more "Rock and Roll" death, Entwistle or Keith Moon?
I would argue Entwistle.. Moon was a sloppy drunk who partied too hard. that's not rock and roll.. rock and roll is dying at age 57, with a Hooker and some Blow in your hotel room.
about the Who, and Cincinnati.. wild scene. great story posted. led to the elimination of "Festival seating", but as pointed out, it was the false start from the Roadies that triggered the stampede. Pete Townshend "went off" in a Rolling Stone interview the next year, I think, saying how tragic the event was, but that people need to stop nagging the Who with questions.. he said they did all the "right" things, sent flowers to the "fucking funerals"..
Moon had a more Rock and Roll life. Died at 32...."before he got old" Entwistle died rich...and old...although he must not have paid his taxes...as his instruments were sold off after dying.
The Who and the Beatles are opposites as far as deaths of band members. Macca( bassist) Ringo (drums)
we should start a thread, "who had a more "Rock and Roll" death, Entwistle or Keith Moon?
I would argue Entwistle.. Moon was a sloppy drunk who partied too hard. that's not rock and roll.. rock and roll is dying at age 57, with a Hooker and some Blow in your hotel room.
about the Who, and Cincinnati.. wild scene. great story posted. led to the elimination of "Festival seating", but as pointed out, it was the false start from the Roadies that triggered the stampede. Pete Townshend "went off" in a Rolling Stone interview the next year, I think, saying how tragic the event was, but that people need to stop nagging the Who with questions.. he said they did all the "right" things, sent flowers to the "fucking funerals"..
it turns out Entwistle was quite a good artist as well as a musician. didn't know he was the one that did "The Who by numbers" rather famous drawing.
obviously many pieces of art were done on purpose as caricatures ..
however he could be quite the serious artist as well. i ran across this ..
this is spectacular art. clearly it is Mr's. Page, Clapton, Hendrix and Townsend. too bad it was done some years after Hendrix died. Considering Entwistle knew Page, Clapton and Hendrix along with Townsend of course personally, image if he could have gotten it autographed by all four? of course the other three are still alive today.
many rockers from the 60's and 70's had backgrounds in Art and Graphic Arts. Freddie Mercury (Farrokh Bulsara) had a degree in Graphic Art and Design and drew the famous "Queen crest"
quite good. interestingly, all of the big names of 60's and 70's English rock knew each other. the Beatles, the Stones, The Who, Zeppelin, all were friends. for the most part they all got along well.
of course they were aware of their competing for rock god immorality which did cause a bit of friction from time to time. The Stones were at times admittedly jealous of the Beatles success. all while being good friends with them.
Townsend's ego is well known and when the Beatles disbanded in 1970 he envisioned The Who taking over as the preeminent band. Not sure what Kieth and Mick would say about that. As it turns out those upstarts lol Led Zeppelin became THE BAND. here is Townsend being a bitter asshole about it, while stating he considers them all good friends.
here is Tony Iommi of Black Sabbath fame recalling his friend John Bonham .. sorry but you'll have to watch this on YouBoob ..
Bonham wasn't the only one with a few driving problems whilst inebriated .. at one point he lost his license to drive in England. i'm sure a man of his wealth can arrange for a driver, yeah? this photo is from one of Clapton's albums .. it's his Ferrari Berlinetta Boxer that he wrecked. He put in his garden in the back of his house for some time as the story goes.
don't recall if he ever had it fixed? probably easier to just buy another one. The Berlinetta Boxer is one my favorite Ferrari designs. here's what it looks like without the "customization" by Clapton..
This is the best "In The Mood"
