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Old 05-04-2015, 08:54 PM   #76
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ROFL.. Sorry to disappoint.. but unlike you.. I actually go to work and spend time away from here. I'm sure you can keep yourself occupied for hours jerking off waiting for me to return.
I work smart, not hard. You should try it sometime. Oh wait...
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Old 05-04-2015, 08:54 PM   #77
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I really hope that avatar isn't your wife... jeebus crabst
Nope.. its your ATF.. your sister.
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Old 05-04-2015, 08:55 PM   #78
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I work smart, not hard. You should try it sometime. Oh wait...

ROFL.. your posts here are you demonstrating how "smart' you are? LOL.. No wonder you spend so much time here.
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Old 05-04-2015, 08:59 PM   #79
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ROFL.. your posts here are you demonstrating how "smart' you are? LOL.. No wonder you spend so much time here.
That... doesn't really make any sense.

Yes, I have lots of time. It's much easier if you have things in motion that make you money on a consistent basis.
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Stupid.
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Old 05-04-2015, 09:08 PM   #81
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How so? Your denigration of gays has shown you to be a cunt. So what?
That's a pathetic attempt at deflection, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas, and your argument that the would be assassins in Garland were justly executing their right to freedom of expression with assault rifles while you denigrate Geller's right to freedom of speech utilizing pictures is stupidly ridiculous, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas.
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Old 05-04-2015, 09:24 PM   #82
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I believe in freedom of speech 100%.
Clearly you do not.

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With that being said, I can't help but side with the muslims on this one.
Side with the Muslims? So you're saying that Muslims at least tacitly agree with using violence to stop blasphemy? And you are OK with that? Gotcha, amadan.

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The whole event is designed with the sole purpose of promoting hate speech. Since when did speech designed with the sole purpose of offending others become classified as free speech?
Since when? Since the very start, you horse's ass.

The whole concept of free speech in the Western tradition is to protect speech with which you disagree. To protect speech that is NOT popular. Speech that please the listener doesn't NEED protection. Or did you not realize that?

Nazis marched in Skokie, IL with the express purpose of pissing people off. And the courts were RIGHT to protect them.

I can't believe I have to explain this to you. What country were you brought up in? Saudi Arabia?

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The reason why these Christians piss me off (slightly) more is because they have the gall to call themselves American. Lets get one thing straight: you are not american. Waving around the flag and promoting hate with unfounded vitriol does not make you an American. You are a disgrace to this country and to every good person in it.
Really? The hateful Christians who anger Muslims piss you off slightly more than the hateful Muslims how actually commit mass murder in the name of their idiot prophet?

Check. Liberal guilt doesn't get any guiltier than that.
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Old 05-04-2015, 09:27 PM   #83
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No, it doesn't. You leave christians alone. You leave jews alone. You don't have to do something you know will cause a scene in order to test the limits of your free speech, just to make sure it's there. It's there. What the first amendment doesn't protect you from is the results of you exercising your free speech.
Another liberal speaks out on behalf of "heckler's veto".

You have free speech! Just don't use it!

Thanks for such a stunning display of cowardice.
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Old 05-04-2015, 09:29 PM   #84
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How do I know that the event was promoting hate speech? Does a bear shit in the woods?

Pamela Geller is a known racist. Her organization, AFDI, is on the watchlist for being a known hate group. Are you a fucking retard or what?
I don't need to go to your brethrens Klan meeting to know that some questionable things will be said.

You're not an American, don't delude yourself. You are the shit on the heel that we need to wipe off but somehow never do.



Also, you don't know me dipshit. I understand free speech better than your pea size brain ever will. When that south park episode came out, I protested on the streets of New York in favor of them showing the cartoon.

That was humor, applicable equally to anyone and everyone.

This is a contest for who gets to be the bigger dipshit and offend the most people.


P.S. have you paid your debts yet?
I'll take you seriously when you cough up those 100 bucks you fucking welcher
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Old 05-04-2015, 09:37 PM   #85
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Very well said +1000000000= COG you can learn a lesson from what Shanm just stated.

To those of you who are talking "Freedom of Speech" there's a reason why you can't run into a crowded movie theater and yell "FIRE !!! FIRE!!! Freedom of speech comes with boundaries.
Your posts are getting dumber. I didn't think that was possible.

Shouting "Fire!" in a crowded theater is not illegal. In fact, it is overwhelmingly approved of. Particularly when rows 2, 3, and 4 are going up in flames.

It is only a problem when it is false and you did it to cause an immediate stampede. In that case, you get arrested for the ACTUAL harm you caused.

Other FALSE statements are also punishable by the law. Like telling someone that you are selling him a genuine gold bar when it is only an aluminum bar with gold coating.

The law doesn't protect deliberate falsehoods. And it almost never allows "prior restraint" on free speech. The law usually lets you make the false statement and then punishes you afterward.

NONE of the underlying reasons for punishing deliberate falsehoods applies to merely offensive speech. The fact that you don't like hearing something does NOT give you the right to prevent another person from saying it. And it certainly doesn't give you the right to react with violence.

Got it now?
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Old 05-04-2015, 09:39 PM   #86
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Clearly you do not.


Side with the Muslims? So you're saying that Muslims at least tacitly agree with using violence to stop blasphemy? And you are OK with that? Gotcha, amadan.


Since when? Since the very start, you horse's ass.

The whole concept of free speech in the Western tradition is to protect speech with which you disagree. To protect speech that is NOT popular. Speech that please the listener doesn't NEED protection. Or did you not realize that?

Nazis marched in Skokie, IL with the express purpose of pissing people off. And the courts were RIGHT to protect them.

I can't believe I have to explain this to you. What country were you brought up in? Saudi Arabia?


Really? The hateful Christians who anger Muslims piss you off slightly more than the hateful Muslims how actually commit mass murder in the name of their idiot prophet?

Check. Liberal guilt doesn't get any guiltier than that.
You're...what's that word???...yeah "harfing". You're harfing again you stupid bitch.

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Really? The hateful Christians who anger Muslims piss you off slightly more than the hateful Muslims how actually commit mass murder in the name of their idiot prophet?
Hmmmmm another idiot equivocating expert. go back and read what I wrote. I said they piss me off BECAUSE (you miss that part?) they claim to be American afterwards. Those Jihadi Muslims are scum. Worthless, even more so than you.
But at least I don't have the "liberal guilt" of calling them my country men.

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Nazis marched in Skokie, IL with the express purpose of pissing people off. And the courts were RIGHT to protect them.
And your point is?

Did I say that they don't deserve to be protected? I said that they deserve what they got BECAUSE it was expected. They did it for the sole purpose of inciting hate and voilence, they knew what was gonna happen. Maybe the 23 hours of Fox News airtime was worth the dead security guard. As long as it gets you and your brethren to stand up and cheer eh?

Grab your guns nit-wit, the muzzies are coming!

I already likened their "contest" to a lobby to say the word nigger. That's free speech too isn't it? Is that something you'd like to advocate too?

Check. Clueless Hannitized repubtard. Check.
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Your posts are getting dumber. I didn't think that was possible.

Shouting "Fire!" in a crowded theater is not illegal. In fact, it is overwhelmingly approved of. Particularly when rows 2, 3, and 4 are going up in flames.

It is only a problem when it is false and you did it to cause an immediate stampede. In that case, you get arrested for the ACTUAL harm you caused.

Other FALSE statements are also punishable by the law. Like telling someone that you are selling him a genuine gold bar when it is only an aluminum bar with gold coating.

The law doesn't protect deliberate falsehoods. And it almost never allows "prior restraint" on free speech. The law usually lets you make the false statement and then punishes you afterward.

NONE of the underlying reasons for punishing deliberate falsehoods applies to merely offensive speech. The fact that you don't like hearing something does NOT give you the right to prevent another person from saying it. And it certainly doesn't give you the right to react with violence.

Got it now?
Which is it, shitsipper.
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Old 05-04-2015, 09:41 PM   #88
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I'll take you off ignore when your period stops.
Does it matter? Not to me.

I've always given you the time of day you deserve: very little, if any!
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Old 05-04-2015, 09:52 PM   #89
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Which is it, shitsipper.
Those bold faced statements are NOT contradictory.

Or did you not realize that, shit slurper?

I'm getting a better idea of the source of your underlying stupidity.
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Old 05-04-2015, 10:09 PM   #90
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Hmmmmm another idiot equivocating expert. go back and read what I wrote. I said they piss me off BECAUSE (you miss that part?) they claim to be American afterwards. Those Jihadi Muslims are scum. Worthless, even more so than you.
Again I ask, do you even know what "equivocating" means? Point to example of it in that post if you can.

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I already likened their "contest" to a lobby to say the word nigger. That's free speech too isn't it? Is that something you'd like to advocate too?
Strawman much?

I didn't "advocate" anything, turd breath. Stop trying to put words in my mouth. I was making the point that their speech is "protected". That isn't advocating. And yeah, saying "nigger" is protected, too.
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