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Old 02-25-2019, 07:15 PM   #76
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Well, I have to honest, I visited AMPs on occasions. Kinda like going to the drive thru at Mickey Ds. Not anymore. LE is serious about shutting these joints down.
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Old 02-25-2019, 08:28 PM   #77
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What is totally BS about this case is that today I heard today the police department may try to stick "involvement with human trafficking" charges on Kraft and other men who were arrested. It is clear this is a long time popular spa with upscale clients and that the owners probably flew in girls on a schedule but you can't stick the human trafficking charges on clients.
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Old 02-25-2019, 08:40 PM   #78
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this is another "shot" of her ....



... Syrian tomatoes?
stay on topic lex. this is about trumps friend in human trafficking. maybe if he would have built a wall this wouldn't have happen
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Old 02-26-2019, 09:04 AM   #79
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LE is serious about shutting these joints down.
You got that right.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/...z&ocid=U221DHP

Even to the point of lying about Human Trafficking.

If the narrative was , girl willingly gives blowjob for money....America would be like... So what is your point LE?

They have started linking all sexual interactions to human trafficking and MeToo.

I've read where these MeToo wackies are crying about sex tourism. Like it is a bad thing! They can not believe that there are some places in the world where a girl would rather fuck for a buck than flip burgers at MickeyD's.





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Old 02-26-2019, 09:51 AM   #80
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What is totally BS about this case is that today I heard today the police department may try to stick "involvement with human trafficking" charges on Kraft and other men who were arrested. It is clear this is a long time popular spa with upscale clients and that the owners probably flew in girls on a schedule but you can't stick the human trafficking charges on clients.
The Federal Govt will try to do what it wants to do. Ergo all the complaining about the "special council" and the FBI raids on Trump's personal attorney.

If the Federal Govt "wanted" they could confiscate the New England Patriots from Kraft for this. Seriously. Now do you understand why people are for Trump?

BTW, did Putin ever give Kraft back his Superbowl ring?
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Old 02-26-2019, 11:11 AM   #81
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The Federal Govt will try to do what it wants to do. Ergo all the complaining about the "special council" and the FBI raids on Trump's personal attorney.

If the Federal Govt "wanted" they could confiscate the New England Patriots from Kraft for this. Seriously. Now do you understand why people are for Trump?
Aren't these the same people who wanted the Federal Government to come down on the Clintons?

Now do you understand why I call many, hypocrites?

The problem, as I see it, is the ignorance on both sides of the aisle to believe only what they choose to believe.

Let's stick to just this case. The government wants you to believe that the girls were slaves. So for 3 months the government let these slaves continue being trafficked? Does that make sense. How come we haven't had any girls come forth?

I mean hundreds of slaves and not one willing to talk?

How did these slaves get here? Did they climb a wall? Are they here legally?

Are they being charged with prostitution too?


See just like in the Mueller investigation. . . I want to know all the facts , so as to make an informed decision.
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Old 02-26-2019, 06:33 PM   #82
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The Federal Govt will try to do what it wants to do. Ergo all the complaining about the "special council" and the FBI raids on Trump's personal attorney.

If the Federal Govt "wanted" they could confiscate the New England Patriots from Kraft for this. Seriously. Now do you understand why people are for Trump?

BTW, did Putin ever give Kraft back his Superbowl ring?

If you have a fake green card then go work for Trump at a golf course.
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Old 02-27-2019, 12:15 AM   #83
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Seriously. Now do you understand why people are for Trump?
I would say it was more due to Ben Ghazi, Hillary's emails and she started to have fainting spells.
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Old 02-28-2019, 12:27 PM   #84
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Three big problems (could be more)mentioned somewhere about the Kraft case that I agree with:

1. He never mentioned money just got a hand job and/or a blow job and then tipped after he got dressed. It is likely easier to make a prostitution case it someone offers to engage or agrees to engage in sexual contact for a fee. It is still illegal to engage in sexual contact for a fee but if it was never discussed as I hear is often the case at a massage parlor, but just a tip for a good massage, then that weakens the government case.

2. The ladies involved owned or ran the Spa. Harder to say they were coerced into doing it.

3. Finally, if awful danger and slavery was going on, why observe for months to make minor prostitution cases? If those girls are in danger of being sold somewhere else into sexual slavery, law enforcement has an obligation to immediately intervene.

Is it ethical for law enforcement to allow trafficked persons to be continuously and illegally forced to perform sexual acts under coercion?
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Old 02-28-2019, 09:40 PM   #85
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Three big problems (could be more)mentioned somewhere about the Kraft case that I agree with:

1. He never mentioned money just got a hand job and/or a blow job and then tipped after he got dressed. It is likely easier to make a prostitution case it someone offers to engage or agrees to engage in sexual contact for a fee. It is still illegal to engage in sexual contact for a fee but if it was never discussed as I hear is often the case at a massage parlor, but just a tip for a good massage, then that weakens the government case.

2. The ladies involved owned or ran the Spa. Harder to say they were coerced into doing it.

3. Finally, if awful danger and slavery was going on, why observe for months to make minor prostitution cases? If those girls are in danger of being sold somewhere else into sexual slavery, law enforcement has an obligation to immediately intervene.

Is it ethical for law enforcement to allow trafficked persons to be continuously and illegally forced to perform sexual acts under coercion?

issue with #2 & #2.


the owners owned the biz but if they were engaged in trafficking with the employees they had then they are in trouble if they got them from overseas.
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Old 03-01-2019, 06:58 AM   #86
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issue with #2 & #2.


the owners owned the biz but if they were engaged in trafficking with the employees they had then they are in trouble if they got them from overseas.
That is a big problem for the ladies, but not Mr. Kraft.
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Old 03-20-2019, 04:07 PM   #87
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rumors are going around that there is actual video of the encounter. I wonder if TMZ gets a hold of this and I wonder what porn studio is the first to do a parody of it.
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Old 03-20-2019, 05:51 PM   #88
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My guess is they have video...and DNA.
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Old 03-20-2019, 06:25 PM   #89
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Okay children, time for some pithy observations. Why an amp at a strip mall? It's anonymous. You don't give your name and you pay cash. They don't keep a notebook on you if you're a repeat customer like a high dollar encounter. For a man like Kraft the upsell is chicken droppings.
Sometimes you just want to be touched without all of the crap that comes from the GFE.
The police allege sex trafficking somewhere, do they have the proof that this is one of those places or was this an attack on the credibility of Mr Kraft?

The latest is that the police are looking to make a deal in return for dropping the charges...sounds like a weak case.

In Lawrence, KS there was a place where the fairly attractive young woman would go full service without asking. There was no provable quid pro quo for prostitution, just a health code violation if it was a sting.
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Old 03-20-2019, 08:12 PM   #90
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DNA isn’t hard to come by at an AMP.
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