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07-24-2018, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Tiny
Come back from the Dark Side Skankhunt42. The old Gotyour6 was a gold mine of information on the psychology of the civilian (non-provider) sugar baby. Now we have to weed through twenty troll posts to find one gem.
I know you think I'm kissing up to providers to get better service. That's not true. Although they do have vaginas and you don't. And B Three says she'll bake me cookies.
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I baked a pie today. Besides somehow managing to collect some legit degrees, I also got grand champion at the state fair.
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07-26-2018, 03:49 PM
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How about putting one of Gotyour6's theories to the test: would a provider require much, much more than a civilian to be in a SB/SD relationship.
Here's the question for any women who would care to respond. Let's say you meet a prospective sugar daddy, someone you enjoy spending time with. You're going to see him a couple of times a week, anything from a couple of hours to half a day each time. You'll go out to eat, maybe watch a movie or go shopping, spend time together at his place or your place. Would you expect him to give you a monthly allowance? Or would you be happy if he paid a couple of your monthly bills and took you shopping once in a while? If it's an allowance, how much do you think you'd expect him to give you monthly?
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07-26-2018, 10:44 PM
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You are not going to get honest answers from providers on this one.
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07-27-2018, 06:18 AM
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#79
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Originally Posted by Tiny
Come back from the Dark Side Skankhunt42. The old Gotyour6 was a gold mine of information on the psychology of the civilian (non-provider) sugar baby. Now we have to weed through twenty troll posts to find one gem.
I know you think I'm kissing up to providers to get better service. That's not true. Although they do have vaginas and you don't. And B Three says she'll bake me cookies.
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You dont have to weed through anything.
I answer a lot of questions through PM or a phone call.
I helped one person here that is a celebrity (Yes, they are on here)
But when a hooker says they want to be a sugar baby I can assure you, they dont.
They want a pretty woman scene where the billionaire sweeps her off her feet and takes her in, buys her a condo and sees her when he is in town.
She will eat Bon bons and wait for him to return from the exotic trip that he went on and then go on a trip with her where they write their names in the sand as they walk in white beach clothes together on the seas of Japan.
What they will get is a guy that will pay their bills and give them some spending money but it wont be enough to take care of them without hooking.
A daddy looks for a girl that has a job, is going to school or is starting to work on her career or a mix of all of them.
Then if she doesn't have a place of her own he will provide one for her. Get things going and they have a sort of relationship.
A hooker wants money, thats it. They don't want to go to dinner, they dont want to hang out and they dont want to have sex with you if they dont have to.
They want a guy that they think they can walk all over. They want his money and they want to do very little to get it.
Shopping is fine but they also want money for the time they go shopping and go to dinner. Why?
because every minute they are with him, they are losing money because they could be sucking some guys cock for 50 bucks in the back seat of his car.
Hookers are money hungry.
Any baby I had, they enjoyed being treated like a princess. I took one girl shopping and when she got to buying jeans she said "These are 80.00 each?" and she was concerned about spending so much. I told her "If you feel bad then just get one pair of each color."
A hooker would have stripped the shelves bare and asked if they had any more in the back.
You want my advise?
Hookers and strippers are broken. Pay them, fuck them and get the fuck out.
The only job they want is the one they have. Getting your money and doing very little for it.
Want to watch TV with them, that show you watch will cost you 200 an hour or more. Hope you dont like watching the Titanic.
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07-28-2018, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Sidewinder
You are not going to get honest answers from providers on this one.
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Yes, The silence from providers is deafening.
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Originally Posted by Gotyour6
They want a pretty woman scene where the billionaire sweeps her off her feet and takes her in, buys her a condo and sees her when he is in town.
She will eat Bon bons and wait for him to return from the exotic trip that he went on and then go on a trip with her where they write their names in the sand as they walk in white beach clothes together on the seas of Japan.
What they will get is a guy that will pay their bills and give them some spending money but it wont be enough to take care of them without hooking.
A daddy looks for a girl that has a job, is going to school or is starting to work on her career or a mix of all of them.
Then if she doesn't have a place of her own he will provide one for her. Get things going and they have a sort of relationship.
A hooker wants money, thats it. They don't want to go to dinner, they dont want to hang out and they dont want to have sex with you if they dont have to.
They want a guy that they think they can walk all over. They want his money and they want to do very little to get it.
Shopping is fine but they also want money for the time they go shopping and go to dinner. Why?
because every minute they are with him, they are losing money because they could be sucking some guys cock for 50 bucks in the back seat of his car.
Hookers are money hungry.
Any baby I had, they enjoyed being treated like a princess. I took one girl shopping and when she got to buying jeans she said "These are 80.00 each?" and she was concerned about spending so much. I told her "If you feel bad then just get one pair of each color."
A hooker would have stripped the shelves bare and asked if they had any more in the back.
You want my advise?
Hookers and strippers are broken. Pay them, fuck them and get the fuck out.
The only job they want is the one they have. Getting your money and doing very little for it.
Want to watch TV with them, that show you watch will cost you 200 an hour or more. Hope you dont like watching the Titanic.
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Good post Gotyour6.
You're one of the masters of the game. We're not supposed to post what's written in the men's forums and you might not want me repeating what you've said there, so I won't go into detail, but you avoid not only providers and strippers, but women advertising themselves on places like Seeking Arrangement. You look for the sugar baby in the wild, among women you meet in every day life. And you ended up with what would appear to be the needle in the haystack. A woman who's the complete package and treats you very well. She's not greedy or jealous, and even gets along well with the SO. I don't have a lot of "game", so the SB in the wild thing isn't for me, but it has worked very well for you.
I've come across three providers, two of whom I got to know, who I think would have made decent SB's, but I didn't pursue them. Admittedly two of the three did not speak English well, and were in foreign countries (not the USA) where very few people spoke their native language. I did, so they could relate to me in a way they couldn't relate to other men around them.
All women are different and finding a good SB (or SB's) is a numbers game. The percentage of providers and strippers who will meet your criteria for a good SB is definitely lower than the percentage of "civilian" women. That doesn't mean they're not out there though.
Another thing, the majority of women will push you for everything they can get out of you. That's biology, it's what they're programmed to do by evolution, get as much as they can out of men. In centuries past this increased their and their offsprings' chances for survival. She will ask you to buy stupid, useless things, like expensive jewelry, as she views this as a test of your willingness to commit to her and put her ahead of other women that may try to come into your life. I've had strippers as SB's, and agree with you that they're worse than average, about getting every dime they can out you. Providers, I'm not sure. The two who I got to know, who I mentioned above, were not that way, they were less greedy than the average woman. They may have been unique though.
In their work, strippers try to get as much as possible out of you without giving up anything in return. Good providers on the other hand are a huge bargain compared to a wife or girlfriend. I'm not sure I agree with you on this. I don't think either of us has enough experience with providers as SB's to know the answers.
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08-20-2018, 05:07 PM
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Some of the opinions are harsh in here but that’s the thing,
They’re like assholes and everyone has one.
I think it is very possible for a provider to cross between SB/VP and back again, VP/SB.
I say that to say I have done so and went UTR from 2014-2017 and lived with the strong connection I formed. It is very important to find a SD that you genuinely click with rather than the awards you reap. Fast money doesn’t make you money hungry or materialistic gentleman. I’ve busted my ass doing 40+ hours a week to make ends meet with an education that costed me meanwhile people at Walmart make more without one. And I’ve laid on my ass for a select few men in the year and a half that I’ve been active on E out of 4 years total present. You make the money, the money doesn’t make you.
A strong connection is a strong connection.
If the understanding is there, the relationship and benefits you wish to have clearly defined then I think you can form a solid NSA. I’ve had clients go over, I’ve had gentleman I’ve taken it further with because I really liked them and while the exchange might have changed the giving did not. A mature mind is just that, and if you’ve never done it don’t speak on it
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08-21-2018, 08:37 AM
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Its so funny how angry people get at other peoples opinions, its fine to disagree but to become disrespectful and degrade somebody else for their opinion is pretty low class. The beauty of this hobby is you make your own rules and set your own limits. And you shouldn't persume to know what the case is for someone else, ones idea of SD can very from the next. Excuse my french but who the f**** is so full of themselves that they believe their word is law, just because you may think X amount of dollars is too much doesn't mean the next guy thinks the same. Point blank period gents & ladies do what is within your comfort level, not someone else's. I personally expected that my SD would be doing more for me then just taking me on a vacation & giving me spending money, after all I can take myself on vacation and shop. But as I said different strokes for different folks.
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08-21-2018, 03:43 PM
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I am not angry at all
I dont bullshit.
Yes, there may be one out of a billion hookers that would work out.
There used to be a definition of a sugar baby.
But just like the definition of male and female got fucked up so did sugarbaby.
So let me say that 99.999999999% of whores would not be a good sugar baby because they are set on making money all the time.
Played the game for more years than most of the hookers have been alive.
Heard it all, all the bullshit so please think what you want.
When it comes to it hookers always go for the wallet.
You are good for fucking for an hour or whatever but when I wipe my dick off I want to see the door shut and not see you in the room when it does
That is why you are by the hour.
The next hour you are under or over some other old asshole moaning for him.
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08-21-2018, 03:59 PM
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Well damn
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Originally Posted by Gotyour6
I am not angry at all
I dont bullshit.
Yes, there may be one out of a billion hookers that would work out.
There used to be a definition of a sugar baby.
But just like the definition of male and female got fucked up so did sugarbaby.
So let me say that 99.999999999% of whores would not be a good sugar baby because they are set on making money all the time.
Played the game for more years than most of the hookers have been alive.
Heard it all, all the bullshit so please think what you want.
When it comes to it hookers always go for the wallet.
You are good for fucking for an hour or whatever but when I wipe my dick off I want to see the door shut and not see you in the room when it does
That is why you are by the hour.
The next hour you are under or over some other old asshole moaning for him.
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A John with a whore complex, now that’s funny. I’m sure there’s not much to do in the go between years between your light going out and bring casket sharp. Yeah why not be the biggest Asshat possible, you’ll say it’s truth and we’ll say it’s a lack of something else
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08-21-2018, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Gotyour6
I am not angry at all
I dont bullshit.
Yes, there may be one out of a billion hookers that would work out.
There used to be a definition of a sugar baby.
But just like the definition of male and female got fucked up so did sugarbaby.
So let me say that 99.999999999% of whores would not be a good sugar baby because they are set on making money all the time.
Played the game for more years than most of the hookers have been alive.
Heard it all, all the bullshit so please think what you want.
When it comes to it hookers always go for the wallet.
You are good for fucking for an hour or whatever but when I wipe my dick off I want to see the door shut and not see you in the room when it does
That is why you are by the hour.
The next hour you are under or over some other old asshole moaning for him.
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I need to chat with you one day.
If I had listened to you years ago, I’d have saved countless drama, angst, and probably 25-30k by now on failed ventures trying to get a provider to be a sugar baby. Man, I’ve got stories.
I’m just too shy in person. Mortified.
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08-23-2018, 01:28 PM
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Just like in any profession, there are hourly and salaried positions. Some people can easily make the transition from one to another...some cannot. Some bartenders do great if they move into management and end up making more money overall. Others fail because they’ve become addicted to the instant gratification of making money for each task they complete.
Some hookers (albeit, few) can transition and see the long term benefit and some cannot. It’s not a character flaw, it’s just a different mindset.
I had a very successful arrangement for about four years and we both were very happy. But, in all honesty, that was in part because I was very well kept and rewarded both emotionally and financially in ways that I would never find simply hooking.
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08-23-2018, 04:45 PM
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A John with a whore complex, now that’s funny. I’m sure there’s not much to do in the go between years between your light going out and bring casket sharp. Yeah why not be the biggest Asshat possible, you’ll say it’s truth and we’ll say it’s a lack of something else
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Huh?
Oh, you are an uneducated whore, lol
What you say has no meaning.
Someone will read about your tragic life in the paper in a cheap motel and feel sorry for you.
You have that going for you anyway.
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09-11-2018, 11:20 AM
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I’m WEAAAAKKKK
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09-11-2018, 03:15 PM
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I’m WEAAAAKKKK
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With your first pic I am betting i know why.
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09-12-2018, 04:11 AM
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Im not into it, its too much like a relationship... Most escorts I know are not into it either for the same reason.
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